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On August 03 2013 00:02 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 23:44 phagga wrote:On August 02 2013 22:53 Feartheguru wrote:On August 02 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:On August 02 2013 22:45 Feartheguru wrote:On August 02 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:On August 02 2013 22:22 Feartheguru wrote:On August 02 2013 22:15 marvellosity wrote:On August 02 2013 22:01 PiPoGevy wrote:On August 02 2013 20:14 marvellosity wrote:[quote] Yeah, it's not hurting anyone. Because the society in Russia isn't letting tonnes of shit like this happen.Everything is fine. ... That's called assault, nothing to do with rights -.- The fact you can't see how the two are connected is slightly concerning  Connecting random events and assuming one leads to the other and then mocking others for not making the same silly assumptions is more than slightly concerning . It is much more logical to guess that they are both caused by the same factor, that the Russian population is very homophobic. Why don't you check what I was originally responding to? The Russian population is indeed homophobic, and laws like the one enacted help legitimise stuff like what I posted. I didn't think it required a particular explanation :/ You responded to someone saying enforcing this law isn't hurting someone by implying very clearly that it caused the people to be hurt in your link, which is frankly.... stupid. :/ See my previous post to explain the connection, which, again, I didn't think I needed to explain. I can only apologise to you if you think I should be assuming stupidity and filling in the steps? Anti-gay legislation helps to legitimise anti-gay actions by individuals/groups - why are you quibbling with me? :/ There is no reason to assume laws like this LEAD to more of those attacks which is what you implied. I didn't ask you to fill in the gaps, I'm just telling you what's in the gaps is wrong. Of course it will lead to more attacks. If the state makes laws implying that being homophobic is okay, homophic attacks will increase. It is not obvious that a law that restricts public displays of homosexuality will increase the rate of homophobic attacks. This is the same fallacy as assuming that after the Trayvon Martin case, we can expect more self-defence killings in the U.S.
But the law doesn't just restrict public displays of homosexuality. It completely prohibits any sort of defense for homosexuality as well. So on the one hand you have priests telling their entire congregations that homosexuals are the spawn of Satan and that's legal but for anyone to disagree with the priest is illegal. With this new law it is illegal to say anything at all positive about homosexuality therefore only negative things are going to be said about homosexuality. Do you really think that will not lead to a much more negative view of homosexuals in the entire country and therefore increase the rate of attacks on the perceived "lower class" of citizens?
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On August 02 2013 08:16 Plansix wrote:
Good luck with that Russia, I am sure the world community will respond well.
if people went to the olympics in China and Nazi Germany -- and anti-gay sentiment is viewed favorably in large portions of the third world and the Repulican leaning areas in the United States-- I dont really see too many people caring. Russians' bribed their way to hosting the Olympics fair and square and theyll probably go off with just minor beatings.
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That's an incredibly misleading title given gay athletes are allowed to attend the Olympics, so they aren't enforcing the law at the Olympics. They're merely continuing to enforce the law during the Olympics.
Though this leaves the door open for gay Olympians to do something stupid, like protest the Russian law while there.
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Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media.
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On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media.
So your stance is that gays should be treated like 2nd class citizens, yes?
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On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media.
Welcome to TL, you will love your stay here.
And it's not your fault, it's just your culture beating you over the head with that bigoted belief system.
I live in one of those countries (post soviet eastern Europe), it's fascinating to observe the ignorance of this region as far as homosexuality goes. There's really nothing else, it's strictly ignorance. Anyone who bothered to read actual data and research would form a rational view of how it all works. Unfortunately homosexuals/transgender people are all grouped into the same "pedophiles/zoophiles/rapists" group and they all "need mental help and stay away from our children" etc.
But of course, everything which doesn't appeal to you is "propaganda". All those scientists and psychologists are only telling those facts about what makes homosexuals homosexual only to please "those damn gays". It's honestly fascinating that this region is legitimately like 40 years behind with its views and it makes complete sense considering that it took a while to get out of soviet regime.
Poeple always needed something to hate, it's interesting to look at the history of our species and see this incredibly consistent tendency to single out a certain group for something which they clearly didn't choose and have no control over (like nationalism/racism/sexism/homosexual oppression etc. did). I guess that's easier than judging people on their character and actions especially if you're stupid and need a way to boost your ego.
Will need a couple generations to filter out the bigots, similarly to racism. Oh well.
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On August 03 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So your stance is that gays should be treated like 2nd class citizens, yes?
I am guessing he is going to say something along the lines of "They are demanding special rights" or "There are bigger problems out there."
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On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media.
So what exactly is North America blind to? What exactly is happening that we need to be afraid of? Are gays causing an alien or demonic invasion? Is the black death spreading through our streets?
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On August 03 2013 01:33 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So your stance is that gays should be treated like 2nd class citizens, yes? I am guessing he is going to say something along the lines of "They are demanding special rights" or "There are bigger problems out there."
It is our overall plan to take over the world and subjugate those dirty heterosexuals after all.
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On August 03 2013 01:34 DetriusXii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So what exactly is North America blind to? What exactly is happening that we need to be afraid of? Are gays causing an alien or demonic invasion? Is the black death spreading through our streets?
SHHH!!! We are secretly running an apartheid against straight people.
No one is more of a slave than he who thinks himself free without being so.
On August 03 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:33 Shiragaku wrote:On August 03 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So your stance is that gays should be treated like 2nd class citizens, yes? I am guessing he is going to say something along the lines of "They are demanding special rights" or "There are bigger problems out there." It is our overall plan to take over the world and subjugate those dirty heterosexuals after all.
Crap, someone is on to us.
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I doubt Russia will bend to the will of the U.S. and whatever other countries try to dissuade them. If that's what their people want, they'll give it to them. Russia needs more time, even if they are going backward right now. No one's going to force them without taking over their country.
I thought Talin, and some banned posters made a decent point. Gay rights may be an important issue, but the amount we hear about it vs other issues is disproportional. However, like the GZ trial, it's easier to have a preformed opinion about it, and the fears are pretty natural, whether we like it or not.
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On August 03 2013 01:34 DetriusXii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So what exactly is North America blind to? What exactly is happening that we need to be afraid of? Are gays causing an alien or demonic invasion? Is the black death spreading through our streets?
My guess is that he's worried about the impending gay alien invasion. It'll end up like a mix between Independance Day and Hairspray.
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On August 03 2013 01:38 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:34 DetriusXii wrote:On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So what exactly is North America blind to? What exactly is happening that we need to be afraid of? Are gays causing an alien or demonic invasion? Is the black death spreading through our streets? My guess is that he's worried about the impending gay alien invasion. It'll end up like a mix between Independance Day and Hairspray.
I'd very much like to see this movie
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On August 03 2013 01:38 Ansinjunger wrote:
I doubt Russia will bend to the will of the U.S. and whatever other countries try to dissuade them. If that's what their people want, they'll give it to them. Russia needs more time, even if they are going backward right now. No one's going to force them without taking over their country.
I thought Talin, and some banned posters made a decent point. Gay rights may be an important issue, but the amount we hear about it vs other issues is disproportional. However, like the GZ trial, it's easier to have a preformed opinion about it, and the fears are pretty natural, whether we like it or not.
People in general do not engage in political or social discourse enough.
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On August 03 2013 01:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:38 farvacola wrote:On August 03 2013 01:34 DetriusXii wrote:On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So what exactly is North America blind to? What exactly is happening that we need to be afraid of? Are gays causing an alien or demonic invasion? Is the black death spreading through our streets? My guess is that he's worried about the impending gay alien invasion. It'll end up like a mix between Independance Day and Hairspray. I'd very much like to see this movie
Will it still have Will Smith and a cross dressing John Travolta in it? I won't see it otherwise.
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On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media.
stuff like that makes me sad. an educated society should be beyond such opinions.
do you know how often in history minorities have been discriminated and prosecuted because of some vague accusations? and it is repeating again and again. if only what the majority does is "normal", should we outrule anything other than that?
the majority of people is eating meat. so should we forbid the others to live in a vegetarian way? because, you need meat to live healthy and they will influence children to not eat meat as well and then society will fall apart because the cows and pigs are not eaten anymore and will flood the country. that's about as good an argument as claiming that gay people will undermine the country or the development of children. no sane homosexual person would show pornography to children, because, get this, they are "normal" in their way of thinking. they just don't fancy the other gender.
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On August 03 2013 01:38 Ansinjunger wrote:
I doubt Russia will bend to the will of the U.S. and whatever other countries try to dissuade them. If that's what their people want, they'll give it to them. Russia needs more time, even if they are going backward right now. No one's going to force them without taking over their country.
I thought Talin, and some banned posters made a decent point. Gay rights may be an important issue, but the amount we hear about it vs other issues is disproportional. However, like the GZ trial, it's easier to have a preformed opinion about it, and the fears are pretty natural, whether we like it or not.
Yeah but guess what, things like gay rights and the morning after pill would be total non-issues if certain religious pussy retards didn't force these ridiculous debates. People trying to excert control over other people's personal lives. Blame them.
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On August 03 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 01:33 Shiragaku wrote:On August 03 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:On August 03 2013 01:23 theballzack wrote:
Thank god Russia is standing up to the gays. Most people are blind to what is happening because of all the propaganda constantly bombarding you about supporting gay rights and marriage but they are slowly seeping into American culture and taking masculinity out of the norm. People need to understand that it is not normal to be gay, it is normal to be straight but the line is being severely blurred. American men are already facing a lot of social issues and i hope that other countries take Russia's hint on these gay issues and take them out of the media. So your stance is that gays should be treated like 2nd class citizens, yes? I am guessing he is going to say something along the lines of "They are demanding special rights" or "There are bigger problems out there." It is our overall plan to take over the world and subjugate those dirty heterosexuals after all.
And rape them. Because it is a known fact that all homosexuals do all day long is raping heteros whenever they get the chance. Also turn all the children gay with the gay rays.
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Threads like this really bring out all the bigots and assholes in the gaming community. Sad that there are so many of them :/
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On August 03 2013 02:18 Zuxo wrote:
Threads like this really bring out all the bigots and assholes in the gaming community. Sad that there are so many of them :/
dont worry, I isnt just the gaming community, there are many bigots and idiots in every society, regardless whether or not they are gamers.
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