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On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:48 Broodwurst wrote:On June 24 2013 23:44 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it. It's very obvious what the colours mean in this context. And like I said, this site is about eSports, not about pushing the political agenda of some people. Discrimination is bad, I accept gays, they should have the same rights etc. but still think that it's disgusting. Especially if they feel the need to always express how different they are etc and the funny thing is most of the "normal gays" agree with that. Ok then let's ban gay parades. While we're at it let's also ban military parades, i hate how they show off. Also carnival...disgusting, everyone getting drunk and wearing stupid outfits. And nerds! OMG those stupid nerds, always talking about computers and video games and shit. BAN THEM ALL I SAY. Everyone should shut up and stay at home. I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Wrong. This site is about a community.
Maybe my views are skewed because I mostly hang out in LoL subforum, where the community is small and tight-knit. But I'm a proud member of the TL Community, and I'm sad that you think this site is only about eSports.
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On June 24 2013 23:54 Shodaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:48 Broodwurst wrote:On June 24 2013 23:44 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it. It's very obvious what the colours mean in this context. And like I said, this site is about eSports, not about pushing the political agenda of some people. Discrimination is bad, I accept gays, they should have the same rights etc. but still think that it's disgusting. Especially if they feel the need to always express how different they are etc and the funny thing is most of the "normal gays" agree with that. Ok then let's ban gay parades. While we're at it let's also ban military parades, i hate how they show off. Also carnival...disgusting, everyone getting drunk and wearing stupid outfits. And nerds! OMG those stupid nerds, always talking about computers and video games and shit. BAN THEM ALL I SAY. Everyone should shut up and stay at home. I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past. You feel insulted because TL think that LGBT people deserve right ? Really ? And this has nothing to do with politics at all. It's about equality
said it better than I could.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:
I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Stop saying it's a political view when from our end it isn't. We're speaking out about basic human rights.
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On June 24 2013 23:50 Gowerly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:On June 24 2013 23:45 Zaros wrote:On June 24 2013 23:44 Shodaa wrote:On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote:
Please create an option for disabling this banner.... Why are you so insecure ? I'm glad TL does this, I'm proud to wear my TL hoodi  . But still so much hate in gaming communities, even in this thread. You gave me brilliant idea, can TL make a hoodi with this new horse on it? I would absolutely insta-buy an article of clothing with this logo on it. Would purchase t-shirt definitely.
Yeah, me too. Although more reasonably (for TL.net) I'd be satisfied with a poster.
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But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know.
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On June 24 2013 23:36 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:35 namste wrote:On June 24 2013 23:33 Big-t wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This! You will loose so many visitors! Your internet has to be pretty freaking small if you can't visit any site that doesn't discriminate people. I prefer random discrimination over gays...
i'd prefer TL warning or banning people for comments like these rather than some of the things than they do warn or ban for, but it's still their site and i know i have to adhere to their rules if i don't wanna get banned again. i suggest you either do the same (->shut up before you embarass yourself and our country any more than you already have) or deal with the consequences.
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On June 24 2013 23:58 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:
I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Stop saying it's a political view when from our end it isn't. We're speaking out about basic human rights.
What about my view? What about the principal falsity of gays? You are not supposed to put your P into a B.
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On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:48 Broodwurst wrote:On June 24 2013 23:44 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it. It's very obvious what the colours mean in this context. And like I said, this site is about eSports, not about pushing the political agenda of some people. Discrimination is bad, I accept gays, they should have the same rights etc. but still think that it's disgusting. Especially if they feel the need to always express how different they are etc and the funny thing is most of the "normal gays" agree with that. Ok then let's ban gay parades. While we're at it let's also ban military parades, i hate how they show off. Also carnival...disgusting, everyone getting drunk and wearing stupid outfits. And nerds! OMG those stupid nerds, always talking about computers and video games and shit. BAN THEM ALL I SAY. Everyone should shut up and stay at home. I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Communities and people have the right to express their opinions. The people who run and own that community have a right as well. You have the right to ignore them or express your own. If you want people to stop expression their opinion, they have the right to tell you to go play in traffic.
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On June 24 2013 23:56 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:55 Arnstein wrote:On June 24 2013 23:09 salle wrote:On June 24 2013 23:02 Arnstein wrote:On June 24 2013 22:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 24 2013 22:52 Capped wrote:
Uh, i realise its a troll, but are snute and TLO gay? I know they're not getting married or anything but thats an interesting fact to know :D
And there seem to be alot of closet homophobes floating around TL. There's a whole interview with TLO about his perfect girl so ummm... I'd say no As a heterosexual male, I find Snute to be my perfect girl. So I'd say we still don't know before TLO or Snute confirms anything! Snute has a girlfriend, and while I don't stalk him to keep track I assume they're still together. Well, now my day is ruined... Dammit, I was waiting for som TLO and Snute action, they looked so cute together 
Think how cute it would be if they placed first and second in every tournament and they would stand side by side while receiving their trophies, just like HomeStory Cup, and they would have small fights like "15 pool is way better than 16 pool!" "you're just stupid, 16 pool leads to a much better economy, and you know it!". Aww <3
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Guys calm down, anyone who discriminates and has a brain (it is possible) should consider that they could have been born in another country where their skin colour or whatever would get them killed. Or they would have been born gay and struggled ti understand why they were made wrong in some people's eyes. This is not about politics as some of you claim but about understanding that we are all humans and should be treated equally for the way we were born. This discriminatory attitude use to be about slavery, racism and gender so don't be a caveman and try to accept that other people are different and don't get offended by it
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On June 24 2013 23:58 shadymmj wrote:
But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know.
Its related to being a good human being
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On June 24 2013 23:43 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:40 r.Evo wrote:On June 24 2013 23:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 24 2013 23:14 Big-t wrote:
I love rainbows, but I hope that´s not the beginning of a pro-gay-TL....
It's not the beginning of a pro-gay-TL. Because TL has been pro-gay since it's conception. It is absolutely going to stay pro-gay though, and this is out way of vocalizing this. The reason why gay pride is the first social issue that made us funk up our banner, is that gay pride is the single social issue with the least amount of internal disagreement. Gays not being treated equally, everywhere, isn't really an anachronism, because there's no historical period where this inequality feels "correct", but it is still one of the most important issues of our time and age, and the internet is crucial for the enlightenment of people through the world. The basis of treating everyone equally to me is to... just treat them equally. The need to go out and tell the world how much you're supporting everyone equally is on a much, much lower level than TL just doing it over all those years. We have enough of people proclaiming their politically correct views posting flags and colors on Facebook and Twitter. Being pro-anything means that you kick the very thing that should be the basis for equality in the balls. Equally. PS: Maybe I'm wrong here, but I never perceived TL to be "pro-gay". For me TL is anti-discriminatory. Anti-stupid. Without paying attention to the color of one's skin or one's sexual orientation - which is what makes this place great. In the event where someone are discriminated against in many ways, some positive discrimination is the only way to achieve equality. besides, we have a plain, straight-maned horse in our banner 51 out of 52 weeks through the year.
I'm proud of TL just straight up banning people for sexist, racist or anti-gay remarks. That's how you fight for equal rights. I would be just as sad about this if it would be TL officially supporting a black-pride/jewish-pride/takewhateveryouwant-pride month.
We're better than doing what dozens of people who show "support" by posting an image or yelling a couple of phrases are doing. We're not missing flags and "signs of supports", we're missing action. People stepping in when someone gets mocked on the streets and in schools. Not people who look away and afterwards call it a tragedy because that's the "correct thing to do".
To me TL used to be a frontier of actions over words for all this time. I want to see a blog with pics of R1CH and Mora partying somewhere and having fun. I want to read a story of Rekrul punching someone in the face because he insulted his best gay buddy. And then I want to post a big huge LOL WELL DONE under those blogs because those are things to be happy for and proud about.
...just not a flag with the intent of "proclaiming our support". =/
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United States44400 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:48 Broodwurst wrote:On June 24 2013 23:44 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it. It's very obvious what the colours mean in this context. And like I said, this site is about eSports, not about pushing the political agenda of some people. Discrimination is bad, I accept gays, they should have the same rights etc. but still think that it's disgusting. Especially if they feel the need to always express how different they are etc and the funny thing is most of the "normal gays" agree with that. Ok then let's ban gay parades. While we're at it let's also ban military parades, i hate how they show off. Also carnival...disgusting, everyone getting drunk and wearing stupid outfits. And nerds! OMG those stupid nerds, always talking about computers and video games and shit. BAN THEM ALL I SAY. Everyone should shut up and stay at home. I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Hate to break it to you but teamliquid as a website, as an institution and as a brand has always been strongly in favour of equal rights for homosexuals. This logo is no more pro gay than the normal one.
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On June 24 2013 23:58 shadymmj wrote:
But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know.
No community would ever do something a little bit away from their core meaning.
Like football / soccer / sports against racism.
Never.
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This thread started kinda fun and now it's kinda getting depressing.
This is exactly why the banner change needs to stick.
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On June 24 2013 23:59 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:36 Big-t wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 namste wrote:On June 24 2013 23:33 Big-t wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote:
That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This! You will loose so many visitors! Your internet has to be pretty freaking small if you can't visit any site that doesn't discriminate people. I prefer random discrimination over gays... i'd prefer TL warning or banning people for comments like these rather than some of the things than they do warn or ban for, but it's still their site and i know i have to adhere to their rules if i don't wanna get banned again. i suggest you either do the same (->shut up before you embarass yourself and our country any more than you already have) or deal with the consequences.
If they warn my for this they are shooting themselves into their own knees. They want freedom, but I can´t say what I think???????
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On June 25 2013 00:00 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:58 Pholon wrote:On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:
I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Stop saying it's a political view when from our end it isn't. We're speaking out about basic human rights. What about my view? What about the principal falsity of gays? You are not supposed to put your P into a B.
Haha ok that last sentence just made me laugh so hard. This is 100% a troll, no one else (over the age of 10) would ever write "you are not supposed to put your p into a b"
Well played good sir, well played!
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On June 25 2013 00:00 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:58 Pholon wrote:On June 24 2013 23:51 theodorus12 wrote:
I'm not talking about banning anything, but there are places where it's ok and such where it's not. This site has always been about esport, esport news etc. Having some admin abusing this site to shove his political views in other peoples faces is just wrong and an insult to anyone who has supported this site in the past.
Stop saying it's a political view when from our end it isn't. We're speaking out about basic human rights. What about my view? What about the principal falsity of gays? You are not supposed to put your P into a B.
Its not your bussiness what other people do in private and discriminating them because of it is just wrong.
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On June 24 2013 23:58 shadymmj wrote:
But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know.
Next we'll have Rorschach pictures instead of the logo to see which bad TLers we have to weed out.
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On June 25 2013 00:00 Julmust wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:58 shadymmj wrote:
But if you didn't change the logo to reflect gay pride or some crap we wouldn't have to lose anyone in this community who genuinely likes to discuss Starcraft. Which I remind everyone is what we're here for. How on earth homosexuality is related to SC I don't know. Its related to being a good human being
thanks for the advice, Jesus sir. i hope that when my time comes you will be standing in front of the pearly gates waiting to welcome me in.
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