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Bobby Kotick Gets a lot of stock bonus - Page 2
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:40 yandere991 wrote: It vests over 5 years and its stock based awards. That is roughly 10 mill variable pay per year without NPV taking effect. Hardly the sensationalist 800% raise. regardless of semantics. situation is retarded. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:29 Juicyfruit wrote: Hate the guy too, but activision is making mad bank through CoD and Skylander and shit. You can't say they don't know how to milk people for cash, because they clearly do. Hundreds of people were in involved in making CoD and Skylander a success. It always bothers me when one guy is the primary beneficiary of so many people's hard work — and he's not even the one assuming any real risk. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
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wUndertUnge
United States1126 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:40 yandere991 wrote: It vests over 5 years and its stock based awards. That is roughly 10 mill variable pay per year without NPV taking effect. Hardly the sensationalist 800% raise. God, well 10 million per year still makes me angry...lol | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:37 wUndertUnge wrote: See that's what I'm trying to figure out. What are their salaries? Does this man really deserve all fo that compensation? Shouldn't it go to the people actually doing the work? Being a game developer for the giants (except probably Blizzard/Valve) leads to a pretty terrible lifestyle. You basically get paid almost a minimum wage even though you are much more qualified and more deserving than the rest of the population. Most developers such as myself, started out wanting to become game developers and then came to the shocking realisation that its not what its cracked up to be and shifted to much more lucrative careers in the software development industry like web-development, where you can work normal hours and get paid 4 times as much. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
This is as retarded as saying we shouldn't shower because kids in some parts of africa don't have access to clear water. If you wanna blame someone for the unfortunate you should start by actual criminals and big governments. | ||
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nicknack
Australia189 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:45 sluggaslamoo wrote: You basically get paid almost a minimum wage even though you are much more qualified and more deserving than the rest of the population. Source? Why do people hate this guy? | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:45 sluggaslamoo wrote: Being a game developer for the giants (except probably Blizzard/Valve) leads to a pretty terrible lifestyle. You basically get paid almost a minimum wage even though you are much more qualified and more deserving than the rest of the population. Most developers such as myself, started out wanting to become game developers and then came to the shocking realisation that its not what its cracked up to be and shifted to much more lucrative careers in the software development industry like web-development, where you can work normal hours and get paid 4 times as much. More deserving....? MORE DESERVING? You think that developers are more deserving that say, oh; teachers, nurses, police/EMS/Firefighters, social workers, single moms, peacecorps, habitat for humanity, big brothers/bigsisters etc... How in the...? They make computer games | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1126 Posts
I think his source is that he was actually a game developer. | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:44 Defacer wrote: Hundreds of people were in involved in making CoD and Skylander a success. It always bothers me when one guy is the primary beneficiary of so many people's hard work — and he's not even the one assuming any real risk. Really? He's taking no risk. I wonder how much his raise would have been if Activison was losing money instead of virtually printing it | ||
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:45 wUndertUnge wrote: God, well 10 million per year still makes me angry...lol It wouldn't if you were the one making it... | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
I'm not totally against capitalism but the current system is flawed at the top of the piramyd. All these bankers who bankrupted so many families got away too. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:40 yandere991 wrote: It vests over 5 years and its stock based awards. That is roughly 10 mill variable pay per year without NPV taking effect. Hardly the sensationalist 800% raise. Yeah you're right, its hardly anything. If I had 55 mill I would want to spend that in a year. On April 28 2013 14:48 Klipsys wrote: More deserving....? MORE DESERVING? You think that developers are more deserving that say, oh; teachers, nurses, police/EMS/Firefighters, social workers, single moms, peacecorps, habitat for humanity, big brothers/bigsisters etc... How in the...? They make computer games Stop being ignorant. Making computer games might sound fun, but the reality is the complete opposite for a lot of people. Being humanitarian has nothing to do with making money, money should go to people who put in the most effort, the hardest working developers are games developers, and its a tougher industry than all those jobs you mentioned combined. Becoming a Teacher is a 3 year course, becoming a programmer is a whole lifestyle. Did teachers painstakingly spend hours and hours every day after highschool sacrificing their social life so they could learn how to program in C++? No they probably went out to parties and had a social life like everyone else. Do they work 16-20 hour days during crunch time and never get to see their family for weeks, while your diet consists of cans of soda and cheetos? No teachers work less hours than even normal employees. Yet they probably get paid about the same amount. Ignorance is bliss isn't it? | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:55 sluggaslamoo wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it? This is really ironic considering how hilariously inaccurate your view of teaching is. Development, be it of games or regular software, can be very enjoyable or very tedious. It entirely depends on your environment and your management. Kotick's approach has utterly destroyed the trust in many of Blizzard's consumers because of how he's forced tactics and features that disgust manage. However, Blizzard still had huge sales simply on the name of past franchises. The real question is that, going forward, will people still slam down money just because of the game's name now that they know Blizzard's reputation? Sadly, probably yes. Look at EA. | ||
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ETisME
12902 Posts
A CEO is much less replaceable than let's say a programmer, it's not that surprising he is earning much more than the other crews. | ||
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:55 sluggaslamoo wrote: Yeah you're right, its hardly anything. If I had 55 mill I would want to spend that in a year. Stop being ignorant. Making computer games might sound fun, but the reality is the complete opposite for a lot of people. Being humanitarian has nothing to do with making money, money should go to people who put in the most effort, the hardest working developers are games developers, and its a tougher industry than all those jobs you mentioned combined. Becoming a Teacher is a 3 year course, becoming a programmer is a whole lifestyle. Did teachers painstakingly spend hours and hours every day after highschool sacrificing their social life so they could learn how to program in C++? No they probably went out to parties and had a social life like everyone else. Do they work 16-20 hour days during crunch time and never get to see their family for weeks, while your diet consists of cans of soda and cheetos? No teachers work less hours than even normal employees. Ignorance is bliss isn't it? So investment bankers deserve to be paid the most then going by your logic considering they absolutely shit on game developers in terms of hours worked per week. Hell I doubt game developers work harder than big4 auditors. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On April 28 2013 14:58 ETisME wrote: A CEO is much less replaceable than let's say a programmer, it's not that surprising he is earning much more than the other crews. And thus, D3 was born... | ||
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Mortal
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