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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
April 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#41
On April 16 2013 16:43 Sayle wrote:
Samsung pays Stork's salary. They can do whatever they want and I will still love them :D


What if they.... kill Stork??
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SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
April 16 2013 11:52 GMT
#42
On April 16 2013 17:39 frontliner2 wrote:
I don't care it's all commercial money. What does piss me off is that our GLORIOUS EUSSR dictator spend millions of tax euro's to hire internet trolls glorifying the EU on the internet..


Yeah I'm going to have to go ahead and ask for confirmation on that from some reputable source.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
April 16 2013 12:23 GMT
#43
On April 16 2013 20:49 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 16:43 Sayle wrote:
Samsung pays Stork's salary. They can do whatever they want and I will still love them :D


What if they.... kill Stork??

Jangbi and Great for me (when he was on samsung) . But still, I have to condemn this.

I now mentally separate the team from their shitty underhand marketing strategies.
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Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
April 16 2013 12:30 GMT
#44
The thought process of companies that leads to "whatever works for my products to sell more" is kinda showing fear and insecureness. I like the Samsung mobile phones so far but the weak decision making for this kind of marketing was unnecessary and shows that Samsung really needs to take care of it's own business structure.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
April 16 2013 12:40 GMT
#45
Well that's nothing new or suprising really. I don't want to know how many guys various companies have in store to write on several forums/amazon review pages etc...
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
nickbalev
Profile Joined March 2011
Bulgaria241 Posts
April 16 2013 12:43 GMT
#46
This is something you see in the average Korean drama guess they should go into the TV business
noipe
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 12:48:38
April 16 2013 12:45 GMT
#47
On April 16 2013 20:44 opisska wrote:
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On April 16 2013 17:55 Womwomwom wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:46 opisska wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:53 haduken wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:49 ETisME wrote:
read about it before, I hope I don't offend any Taiwanese by saying this but I find it a bit fishy:

Taiwan is EXTREMELY sensitive for HTC and samsung competition. Some politicians' choice of phone get flamed on media news if it isn't a HTC and sometimes they would even get asked why not using a HTC phone to support Taiwan industry on camera news.

HTC is under high competitive pressure, especially from Samsung. It isn't doing as well as before anymore, the chinese market didn't like HTC while the oversea is getting smashed by Samsung and Apple.

And to users who aren't aware, Taiwan has a separate political system than the Chinese one


That's Taiwan's own damn fault, just look at all the Taiwanese vendors like ASUS, HTC, Gigabyte, same old make cheap alternatives, race to the bottom, flood the market with 10000 products with random product names, shitty generic line ups with no continuity, confuse all consumers, zero innovation or invest into their marketing.

Such a shame as the new HTC phones are great products.

Is it any wonder they are getting owned by organised competitions?


Is this really how HTC is percieved in Australia or elsewhere? Because among my friends HTC is considered more of a premium brand, at least compared to shit like LG, Sony, or god forbid ZTE or Huawei. Yes, Samsung would be on par (Apple is a manufacturer of toys for kids and thus irrelevant), but not really valued more than HTC.


Samsung is definitely the top tier Android smartphone manufacturer as a result of an obscene advertising budget, good enough phones to justify the advertising claims, and carrier presence. HTC, LG, Sony don't have anywhere near the same amount of advertising or carrier presence so they've been regulated to the "cheap pack", through Sony seems to pushing extremely hard for more market share. Their flagship phones aren't without problems but they've had a top tier midrange for at least a year.

HTC's poor branding is an issue but the bigger problem is that Samsung can just shout over everyone else. They're the only ones that can actually get all of their phones on a carrier and in the United States (and Australia too), that's a really important thing. The branding thing is a problem with HTC but it honestly isn't any different from Samsung pumping out a billion different variants of Galaxy phones. The difference is that carriers actively advertise the Galaxy S flagship.

Also, come on Apple devices being toys for kids? Really? Let's not go there OK?



The Apple remark could have been done better, I agree. Just the point was that in the social group where most of my firends are, this is the perception - almost noone has an iPhone, partly because it would be just considered childish, partly because they really believe that it is not a good idea to buy one. This fact prevents the other brands from being "smashed" by Apple. Also in general, I believe that Apple's marketshare in everything is much lower in Czech than in the US, largely due to the widespread notion that iStuff is "snobbish".

The carrier thing is interesting - I have honestly no ideawhat phones are offered by carriers, it's not really profillic in here. Most of the people I know buy smartphones from computer vendors anyway.


That's fair enough, thanks for clarifying. Its interesting that continental Europe + eastern Europe doesn't really have as much attachment towards Apple products as English speaking countries. I wonder, does it have to do with less Apple store presence? I know the Apple Store is really Apple's true success story, since you actually have a reason to go there if you have a problem.

Yeah, carriers are important for the North American and Australian (and UK?) markets. I'm not sure why, I always buy my phones outright but I know a significant number of Australians who buy their phones on plans, where you pay as you go. Sometimes it actually isn't that much more expensive if you need an expensive, high data phone plan so I guess that's why people like to buy their phones this way. I've heard that the philosophy is a bit different in Europe and your anecdote seems to suggest that too.

But basically, that's the case. The only two companies that get all of their phones on all major carriers during the launch period is pretty much Apple and Samsung. When you're looking for a plan and a swanky new phone, you've only really got these two options to pick from.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
April 16 2013 12:47 GMT
#48
On April 16 2013 17:39 frontliner2 wrote:
I don't care it's all commercial money. What does piss me off is that our GLORIOUS EUSSR dictator spend millions of tax euro's to hire internet trolls glorifying the EU on the internet..

What are you even talking about here? Pro-EU internet trolls?

The same EU that, in Britain at least has a lot of media outlets with a very clear anti-EU, anti consumer/worker protection bias? Wonder if those are related.......
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 16 2013 12:48 GMT
#49
On April 16 2013 17:49 EvilTeletubby wrote:
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On April 16 2013 16:51 ControlMonkey wrote:
Relevant.


<3

That was one of my favorite bans.



Edit: And afterwards, he kept right at it.


The evidence seems overwhelming but I'm just shocked that we'd find a shill on TL. Places like anandtech, hardforum, etc. I'd expect but we're not exactly known for our tech sub-forum. I'm hugely disappointed that I can't even get unbiased hardware advice on TL.

Oh, and happy birthday.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
April 16 2013 12:50 GMT
#50
Anyway back on topic, I believe that this is relatively commonplace.

However, I do see that companies have kind of created this problem for themselves. Over time I have seen professional reviewing somewhat discredited in all sorts of fields due to leaning from companies. This then legitimised/necessitated peer-reviewing on the internet for consumers, which is liable to such abuses as the OP is discussing.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
April 16 2013 12:53 GMT
#51
On April 16 2013 16:51 ControlMonkey wrote:
Relevant.

I was just gonna say that reminds me of that one guy on TL's Automated ban list lol.
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 16 2013 13:25 GMT
#52
Not gonna lie. Probably would have done this for free.. I love Samsung hahaha.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46234 Posts
April 16 2013 13:35 GMT
#53
On April 16 2013 16:51 ControlMonkey wrote:
Relevant.


This is hilarious haha
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
April 16 2013 13:36 GMT
#54
If that guy isn't a shill, wow he must be fun at parties haha
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
April 16 2013 13:46 GMT
#55
On April 16 2013 16:32 phodacbiet wrote:
Ah remember the good ol' days when sales depended on how good the product is instead of using slanders to put down competitions?



No, because this has never happened in the life of business. People have always been attracted to what they're told about something and not what it is. If you think the internet changed anything, then you haven't been paying attention to history. Salesman have been deceiving people since the dawn of the salesman. They're job is to sell you on something you may not even need, but they make you think you need or want it regardless of how good it actually is.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
April 16 2013 13:46 GMT
#56
Didn't they catch some guy @ EA writing good reviews for their game over rotten tomato? Hired reviews have been around for ages.

Same with all those "buy 1k likes on facebook from real users for $xxxx". This is something I keep getting annoyed as: facebook is more or less a cheap advertisement platform.

On the samsung fanboy that got banned....
I admit samsung make great phones, at least having SD support+removable battery is quite important for me (battery on long days where I spend a majority of time taking pictures and videos on phone).

But monitors... honestly I hardly really notice a difference...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
April 16 2013 14:02 GMT
#57
On April 16 2013 22:46 Hikari wrote:
Didn't they catch some guy @ EA writing good reviews for their game over rotten tomato? Hired reviews have been around for ages.

Same with all those "buy 1k likes on facebook from real users for $xxxx". This is something I keep getting annoyed as: facebook is more or less a cheap advertisement platform.

On the samsung fanboy that got banned....
I admit samsung make great phones, at least having SD support+removable battery is quite important for me (battery on long days where I spend a majority of time taking pictures and videos on phone).

But monitors... honestly I hardly really notice a difference...

God that annoys me so much. Facebook had (has?) so much potential as a platform for 'genuine' new and unheralded content creators to get their names out there, but is increasingly proving not to be the case due to a combination of Facebook's algorithims being increasingly aimed at, and used by established entertainment stables.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 16 2013 14:06 GMT
#58
On April 16 2013 22:25 Existential wrote:
Not gonna lie. Probably would have done this for free.. I love Samsung hahaha.

As much as I like Samsung *products*, I'm lucid enough to realize that the company itself is a piece of shit that's just after my money. I don't understand why people like companies... Blind brand loyalty is such a plague.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
April 16 2013 14:15 GMT
#59
Iunno I figured you all were more up to date on this...pretty much every politician, major corporation, etc. does this...hell apple probably does it too.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
April 16 2013 14:20 GMT
#60
I think you are mistaken on that. Most are aware this goes on, but it's rare that such behaviour actually results in anything tangible.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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