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On January 11 2013 01:37 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:27 nanaoei wrote:
not sure if mike89 is urgently trying to read out donations and comments, or the co-op duo is dickish for not letting him, rofl I don't have audio on, so I can't really say for this particular instance, but serious time is serious time, some amount of silence is needed. Respecting the runner is priority, there will time for donations later on.
Silence? These guys just speak non stop 
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On January 11 2013 01:37 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:27 nanaoei wrote:
not sure if mike89 is urgently trying to read out donations and comments, or the co-op duo is dickish for not letting him, rofl I don't have audio on, so I can't really say for this particular instance, but serious time is serious time, some amount of silence is needed. Respecting the runner is priority, there will time for donations later on.
It's banter more than anything, I wouldn't call it serious.
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What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1.....
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haha,i don't mean to bash or anything. i'd just be very annoyed if i were mike89 trying to read out donation comments---they are what some people donate to hear after all.
the two guys are talking to each other as if it were a normal playthrough as far as i notice, and a lot louder and a lot more frequently than most gamers... on top of simply speaking over mike while he's midway through reading a donation.
nothing of what the co-op duo is saying right now makes any sense to me any more than the obvious.
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On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1.....
There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick).
TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both.
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lol speed through the donations while it is paused. :D
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On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both.
I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well.
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'i'm really bad at talking while playing' LOLLLLLLLL........
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Havent watched any full games yet, but I will be watching tonight. Probably donating a bit as well.
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On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well.
This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year.
Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p
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On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p
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DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw)
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On January 11 2013 01:38 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:37 SKC wrote:On January 11 2013 01:27 nanaoei wrote:
not sure if mike89 is urgently trying to read out donations and comments, or the co-op duo is dickish for not letting him, rofl I don't have audio on, so I can't really say for this particular instance, but serious time is serious time, some amount of silence is needed. Respecting the runner is priority, there will time for donations later on. It's banter more than anything, I wouldn't call it serious.
Yeah, I misunderstood, I thought they were asking him not to talk, but I guess they are talking over him instead.
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On January 11 2013 01:57 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p ... DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw)
Ok it's the tenth time I read about the Tower, please explain the pros and cons :D
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Have to understand too: what we hear on stream is not what people hear in the room. They are running audio inputs into a mixer for stream consumption. The runners may barely hear the donation comments being read.
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On January 11 2013 02:04 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:57 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p ... DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw) Ok it's the tenth time I read about the Tower, please explain the pros and cons :D
Basically, The Tower is slightly out of the way near the end of the game. It can save 1 round against a couple of bosses, but the extra distance to pick it up can also potentially result in an extra random encounter, which would offset the gains.
There's a bit of a split between the runners on whether or not it's worth it.
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On January 11 2013 02:04 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 01:57 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p ... DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw) Ok it's the tenth time I read about the Tower, please explain the pros and cons :D
Its a joke between western FF9 runners.
The old route of FF9 disc 4 used a weapon called the tower it takes 3 steps to obtain and saves a turn on Tiamat and means you don't have to buffer Zidane's final hit on Necron. However those 3 steps are in a very high encounter rate room so you have a possibility of getting an encounter obtaining it (Encounters are 30 seconds minimum).
Runner break down:
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People who use the Tower -
Garnet 2525 (Old FF9 JP WR holder)
Crystalbeauty ( FF9 NTSC WR holder)
Drazerk (I suck)
People who don't use the Tower -
Spikevegeta
Caracarn
Tomato rice (JP WR holder)
Semieru
Puwexil
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On January 11 2013 02:12 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 02:04 corumjhaelen wrote:On January 11 2013 01:57 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p ... DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw) Ok it's the tenth time I read about the Tower, please explain the pros and cons :D Its a joke between western FF9 runners. The old route of FF9 disc 4 used a weapon called the tower it takes 3 steps to obtain and saves a turn on Tiamat and means you don't have to buffer Zidane's final hit on Necron. However those 3 steps are in a very high encounter rate room so you have a possibility of getting an encounter obtaining it (Encounters are 30 seconds minimum). Runner break down: + Show Spoiler +
People who use the Tower -
Garnet 2525 (Old FF9 JP WR holder)
Crystalbeauty ( FF9 NTSC WR holder)
Drazerk (I suck)
People who don't use the Tower -
Spikevegeta
Caracarn
Tomato rice (JP WR holder)
Seymiru
Puwexil
I'd take it I think lol
Also FF9 speedrun seems kinda interesting, do you know if there's a sheet somewhere to help me learn it or something ?
I learnt a good part of FF8 but it was pretty easy in the fight parts and it was more or less an optimization of the way I played the game when I was 12 so I gave up on it.
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On January 11 2013 02:04 itsjustatank wrote:
Have to understand too: what we hear on stream is not what people hear in the room. They are running audio inputs into a mixer for stream consumption. The runners may barely hear the donation comments being read.
i hope what they hear in the room is to a lesser extent, because this was pretty bad. they can definitely hear each other unless the setup has changed from every other time before, and for every other marathon before.. it's very infrequent that they don't interact with each other on when is a good time to read. i think they're responsible for the timer also.
it was a trial and failure thing because mike tried talking over their voices, running it alongside the commentary, shooting them out every once in a while with a small precursor, and raced the cutscenes to see how many he could get out by the end.
no point arguing it out, but i hope it doesn't happen too often with different runs. it surely sets certain people off from donating to have their comments read.
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On January 11 2013 02:15 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 02:12 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 02:04 corumjhaelen wrote:On January 11 2013 01:57 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:56 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:50 Drazerk wrote:On January 11 2013 01:45 Everhate wrote:On January 11 2013 01:38 29 fps wrote:
What are some other games that you'd want to see in next year's run?
I personally want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 (NES). That game was super difficult. Also Megaman 1, 2, and 3. Especially 1..... There's also a marathon during the summer (date hasn't been worked out yet, but it's normally around early June), called SGDQ (Summer Games Done Quick). TMNT1 has a few people looking at it after this marathon is done (i know feasel was looking at it, for one). There are a few people that are very good at the classic megaman games, so it's very possible some combination of those games will either be a SGDQ or AGDQ 2014...or both. I believe there are plans for a ESA 2013 ( European speedsters assembly or something) which can cover a lot of games as well. This as well. I forgot about ESA, but it was lots of fun last year. Random note. Still hoping puwexil picks up the tower and throws it at a random encounter :p ... DO NOT MOCK THE TOWER (its a bidding war as to what happens to the Tower btw) Ok it's the tenth time I read about the Tower, please explain the pros and cons :D Its a joke between western FF9 runners. The old route of FF9 disc 4 used a weapon called the tower it takes 3 steps to obtain and saves a turn on Tiamat and means you don't have to buffer Zidane's final hit on Necron. However those 3 steps are in a very high encounter rate room so you have a possibility of getting an encounter obtaining it (Encounters are 30 seconds minimum). Runner break down: + Show Spoiler +
People who use the Tower -
Garnet 2525 (Old FF9 JP WR holder)
Crystalbeauty ( FF9 NTSC WR holder)
Drazerk (I suck)
People who don't use the Tower -
Spikevegeta
Caracarn
Tomato rice (JP WR holder)
Seymiru
Puwexil
I'd take it I think lol Also FF9 speedrun seems kinda interesting, do you know if there's a sheet somewhere to help me learn it or something ? I learnt a good part of FF8 but it was pretty easy in the fight parts and it was more or less an optimization of the way I played the game when I was 12 so I gave up on it.
I think its gotten to a stage where we all use different routes with some key equip screens being the same. Since my notes are very risky (I don't use tents on Gizamaluke and do frame perfect tricks) I wouldn't want you to use my notes however there are notes somewhere in the SDA thread here which will get you started http://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/final_fantasy_ix_speedrun_58.html
Also it should be noted that I am working on a 100 noble route so there is even more to learn.
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Well, apparently this guy hates fly droids.
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