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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it.
A gun control topic can be found here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472

Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1845 Posts
December 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#81
When I first read the story I saw two killed. Still a tragedy, but when I saw 27.. just damn.

I just don't get it.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#82
Must be terrible being a parent and then hearing your small child has been murdered at school :/
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
December 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#83
What kind of sick person can do this? Especially to children being a father himself. I pray something is done I don't care what just anything.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
December 14 2012 18:35 GMT
#84
On December 15 2012 03:31 Intox wrote:
What kind of sick fucks would do that to innocent children.. how the hell do you convince yourself actions like that are just?!? Thoughts to the victims and their families, rest in peace.


Well, I'm betting this lunatic was extremely drugged out of his mind. That is the only explanation I can think of...
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#85
On December 15 2012 03:35 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:31 Intox wrote:
What kind of sick fucks would do that to innocent children.. how the hell do you convince yourself actions like that are just?!? Thoughts to the victims and their families, rest in peace.


Well, I'm betting this lunatic was extremely drugged out of his mind. That is the only explanation I can think of...


There are far more drugged up people with zero prospects in the world than the American population, but why does it happen with higher frequency in the US?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#86
On December 15 2012 03:33 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:31 heliusx wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:24 farvacola wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:18 heliusx wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Does Walmart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?


Everywhere sells ammunition including country gas stations. As for automatic weapons it's an expensive and lengthy process involving federal bureaus.

In theory, it is. In practice, not so much. If you do not believe me, check out this site. Just check out the "equipment exchange" and revel in all of the automatic and semi-automatic weapons being offered. One can literally buy a machine gun directly from another person and have it sent to a local gun shop for pickup without the involvement of a single federal agency. A friend of mine did just that. And if you happen to live in a state with gun shows, just ask a vendor what he's got behind the display. It really is that easy.


You cannot buy a automatic firearm without going through the legal process for it. It takes time to process the request and investigation on you by the ATF after that you must do paperwork with the local law enforcement. There is NO WAY you can legally purchase an auto weapon without going through the ATF it's simply impossible. If anyone is telling you they got a fully auto without federal involvement they are either lying or purchased illegaly.


Illegal purchases are very common. There is so little regulation that there's essentially no risk in doing so.


I seriously doubt it's very common for licensed gun dealers to sell automatic weapons illegally. Do you understand the risks to their business and the criminal penalties for doing such a thing? There is actually very high risks, automatic weapons are different than other firearms because they are all registered with the government and are traceable unlike non auto weapons in most states.
dude bro.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
December 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#87
This sucks...it hits harder as a father of a near-school aged child...I want to cry...
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44123 Posts
December 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#88
On December 15 2012 03:35 Gatored wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:31 Intox wrote:
What kind of sick fucks would do that to innocent children.. how the hell do you convince yourself actions like that are just?!? Thoughts to the victims and their families, rest in peace.


Well, I'm betting this lunatic was extremely drugged out of his mind. That is the only explanation I can think of...

People don't need drugs to be insane. It's scarier to think that a person could just do that but scapegoating drugs isn't the answer.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 18:40:32
December 14 2012 18:38 GMT
#89
27 dead, 18 children i have heard. OUCH (Source:SKY News)

20year old arrested and in custody, atleast in American he will get the death penalty and will be dead in a year or so after the trial. If this happened in England the guy would get a prison cell for 30years and the ability to play xbox and watch tv...
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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 14 2012 18:38 GMT
#90
Whats with schools in America, how do kids even get guns so easily.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
December 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#91
Oh god, not again... wasn't that long ago the batman shootings happend.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#92
On December 15 2012 03:38 Ryps wrote:
Whats with schools in America, how do kids even get guns so easily.


The article clearly states it wasn't a kid shooting. Did you read anything past the title in your blind rage to demonize america.
dude bro.
Ewok
Profile Joined December 2012
United States26 Posts
December 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#93
Do you really think gun laws would have stopped him from killing children? Obviously not. Gun control wont stop criminals like this from acquiring firearms, it will just prevent honest citizens from protecting themselves from these criminals.
FFE or die trying!
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#94
There's just too many mass shootings in the states. You guys needs to do something about it.
starleague forever
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44123 Posts
December 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#95
On December 15 2012 03:38 Ryps wrote:
Whats with schools in America, how do kids even get guns so easily.

It wasn't a kid, it was a full grown man who went to a school to do his shooting. The media attention these events get probably helped in that decision to be honest although 27 adults dying would still be a tragedy.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
December 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#96
On December 15 2012 03:39 Reaps wrote:
Oh god, not again... wasn't that long ago the batman shootings happend.


The "batman shootings"?

I think I missed that, care to explain?
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 14 2012 18:40 GMT
#97
On December 15 2012 03:38 Ryps wrote:
Whats with schools in America, how do kids even get guns so easily.

Well, if they don't buy it themselves they can just open up their dads night drawer and TA DA! There you have it.
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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
December 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#98
One day, US will probably have to look at the problem with objectivity and seriously. As many has said, its not normal for one of the world's richest country to have this crimes happening so often (more often than elsewhere)

Controlling guns could probably help, but I highly doubt it will erase the problem alone. As many have said it, making it hard to acquire guns won't stop those who really want one from getting one through black market, but it will make his life harder, which is a plus. Instead of being mad and going to his drawer to get his gun, we can only hope that the long processus in acquiring a gun will cool down his anger, or make him think.

I personally think the problem is much bigger, probably has something to do with culture, or lack of help to the men and women with psychological needs, dunno.
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
December 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#99
Kwark, I cannot report posts yet, but could you please moderate this thread harshly? People are already arguing gun control, americentrizism etc.

Seriously the dead bodies are not even cold and people already climb on their backs to argue their respective agenda. Really leaves a bad taste in my mouth..
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 14 2012 18:41 GMT
#100
On December 15 2012 03:40 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:39 Reaps wrote:
Oh god, not again... wasn't that long ago the batman shootings happend.


The "batman shootings"?

I think I missed that, care to explain?


Hes referring to the shooting in Colorado that happened in a theatre at the midnight release of Dark Night Rises.
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