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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it.
A gun control topic can be found here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472

Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#41
My aunt lives there, my cousin is a principal at a school near by in lock down. It's really sad :/

It makes me hate the world
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#42
Gun control doesn't stop shit like this

Remember the string of kindergarten knife attacks in china?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#43
On December 15 2012 03:18 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Does Walmart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?


Everywhere sells ammunition including country gas stations. As for automatic weapons it's an expensive and lengthy process involving federal bureaus.

In theory, it is. In practice, not so much. If you do not believe me, check out this site. Just check out the "equipment exchange" and revel in all of the automatic and semi-automatic weapons being offered. One can literally buy a machine gun directly from another person and have it sent to a local gun shop for pickup without the involvement of a single federal agency. A friend of mine did just that. And if you happen to live in a state with gun shows, just ask a vendor what he's got behind the display. It really is that easy.
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sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#44
On December 15 2012 03:23 AgniKai wrote:
yeah 150.000 people die everyday, yet americans feel like their deaths matters more and post everytime this kind of isolated incident happens zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


not very many of those are 5-10 year olds getting shot in their elementary school
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Mo0Rauder
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada182 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#45
On December 15 2012 03:15 iNcontroL wrote:
Sad... Not much more to say. Thoughts will be with the families


My thoughts as well, not much point arguing one way or the other as nothing will change. I just hope the families are able to move on from this in time.
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McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
December 14 2012 18:24 GMT
#46
On December 15 2012 03:21 WTFZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Does Walmart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?



An automatic weapon fires whatever cartridge it is chambered for. There are handguns that fire 9mm and fully automatic weapons that fire 9mm.

Getting a legal automatic weapon is extremely expensive, but you can order whatever ammo off the internet, which is usually a good idea because bulk pricing is pretty good.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:16 J_Slim wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Do Wal-Mart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?


Probably. I work at a sporting goods store, and we sell any type of ammo you could want. Ironic though that we don't sell hand guns. Just shot guns and rifles, including the fully automatic rifles that should *only* be in the hands of a soldier on a warfield.


Your sporting goods store does not sell automatic rifles.


I see. Not too familiar with firearms I'm afraid. Is it common for people to be armed with heavier weapons in the US, as in weapons typically used by the military?
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
December 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#47
These kinds of events are always tragic. But the fact that this shooting was mainly against children is absolutely disgusting, it makes me truly and completely sad. My heart goes out to those kids and their families.

Newtown is quite a ways away from where I live. Still, it’s scary for something like this to happen in my home state. (To be fair it’s scary anywhere, just closer to home today)
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#48
Wow, shooting kids..I really wonder what was the deal with the shooter.
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.maLice.
Profile Joined December 2011
United States174 Posts
December 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#49
On December 15 2012 03:23 AgniKai wrote:
yeah 150.000 people die everyday, yet americans feel like their deaths matters more and post everytime this kind of isolated incident happens zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Yeah, sure, but 150,000 elementary school children don't get shot to death by a lunatic everyday you fucking moron.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#50
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/State-Police-Responding-to-Shooting-at-School-Police--183498401.html
http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012-12-14__11-05-25/Shooting Reported Sandy Hook Elementary School
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story
http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Shootings-reported-at-Newtown-school-4118505.php

Some links to local news agencies in the area :/
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 14 2012 18:26 GMT
#51
I hope on the news they don't even identify the gunman. That they only glorify the victims and let us learn of them.


The way the media works today, it gives these sick fucks immortality.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
December 14 2012 18:26 GMT
#52
On December 15 2012 03:24 101toss wrote:
Gun control doesn't stop shit like this

Remember the string of kindergarten knife attacks in china?


So sick of people telling me they are sad to see this kind of thing, but they won't support the most basic gun control laws. Yes, I know guns don't kill people, but they make it really easy.

Gun related Deaths by Country (per 100,000 population)

Japan 0.07
England 0.22
Ukraine 0.35
Spain 0.63
Germany 1.10
Israel 1.86

United States 9.00

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

God Bless America, the NRA and the 2nd Amendment!

plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 18:28:35
December 14 2012 18:26 GMT
#53
On December 15 2012 03:15 ThreeAcross wrote:
Absolutely terrible. I have always been on the side of sending my kids to public schools, but now that I have one I can't imagine doing so with the amount of shootings that are happening.

I can't even comprehend the situation for the parents and families. My prayers are with them.

I really can't see how a privatized school would have ended up any different. This REALLY isn't a public versus private thing. At all.

This is absolutely horrific. I can't even begin to imagine how it's like being a parent to one of those kids right now, or five years down the line. If anything is insanity-inducing, this is it.

Edit: That said, apparently the kid of the shooter attends this school. What's the back-story here?
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
December 14 2012 18:26 GMT
#54
On December 15 2012 03:24 sLideSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:23 AgniKai wrote:
yeah 150.000 people die everyday, yet americans feel like their deaths matters more and post everytime this kind of isolated incident happens zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


not very many of those are 5-10 year olds getting shot in their elementary school


And what source are you basing this on? You have no idea what's going on in africa/asia.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
December 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#55
Fucking horrendous. This country as a whole is absolutely and utterly fucked, cannot even comprehend the thought process for those that are still pro-gun.

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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
December 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#56
This is crazy...
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 18:28:04
December 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#57
On December 15 2012 03:14 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks.


Does Walmart actually sell ammunition for fully automatic machine guns? Or is that just some strange rumour I heard?


the difference between full automatic and semi automatic lies in a weapon part, not the amunition.

i remember when i was in the army that the army rifles had a specific part that could make civilian versions of that weapon into basically the army version, because one day one of those parts was not accounted for and the whole base was on lockdown until they found it in a drawer or something.





also, who the hell kills 20 children. I dont think gun control would have fixed this.
JustJonny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada294 Posts
December 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#58
On December 15 2012 03:24 101toss wrote:
Gun control doesn't stop shit like this

Remember the string of kindergarten knife attacks in china?


i'm not super opinionated on the gun control topic, but your statement annoys me. it takes a hell of a lot longer to kill 28 people with a knife than with a full-auto gun. gun control wouldn't stop the acts of violence, but could minimize the impact of these tragedies.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#59
As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
December 14 2012 18:28 GMT
#60
There are too many drugged up lunatics in the US that's the problem.
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