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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it. A gun control topic can be found here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472 Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt. | ||
Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:27 amazingxkcd wrote: As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless. Well, yeah, that's pretty much exactly what they can do. It's a lot harder to get a gun illegally when they're not readily available in the first place. | ||
GetSome
United States35 Posts
This is so, so sad... | ||
Anonymous_Coward
United Kingdom1347 Posts
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ThreeAcross
172 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:26 plated.rawr wrote: I really can't see how a privatized school would have ended up any different. This REALLY isn't a public versus private thing. At all. This is absolutely horrific. I can't even begin to imagine how it's like being a parent to one of those kids right now, or five years down the line. If anything is insanity-inducing, this is it. Edit: That said, apparently the kid of the shooter attends this school. What's the back-story here? It has nothing to do with public / private schools. I was talking about home schooled. Of course the chances are slim, but your mind works differently when you have a kid that nearing school age. It isn't just shootings that make me wary of the school system either. | ||
AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
Prayers go out to the families of the victims. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:24 farvacola wrote: In theory, it is. In practice, not so much. If you do not believe me, check out this site. Just check out the "equipment exchange" and revel in all of the automatic and semi-automatic weapons being offered. One can literally buy a machine gun directly from another person and have it sent to a local gun shop for pickup without the involvement of a single federal agency. A friend of mine did just that. And if you happen to live in a state with gun shows, just ask a vendor what he's got behind the display. It really is that easy. You cannot buy a automatic firearm without going through the legal process for it. It takes time to process the request and investigation on you by the ATF after that you must do paperwork with the local law enforcement. There is NO WAY you can legally purchase an auto weapon without going through the ATF it's simply impossible. If anyone is telling you they got a fully auto without federal involvement they are either lying or purchased illegaly. | ||
Firlefanz
Germany245 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:24 101toss wrote: Gun control doesn't stop shit like this Remember the string of kindergarten knife attacks in china? So you're going to tell me that it doesn't matter if such a person attacks with a knife or handgun? Of course there is a difference: Killing someone with a handgun involves a finger movement and it's not necesssary being at close range to the person. It lowers the difficulties/scruple of killing somebody. On December 15 2012 03:27 amazingxkcd wrote: As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless. No, but it slows the process and gives people in the environment of the shooter the opportunity to realize theres something wrong with this person and maybe prevent such a tragedy. | ||
Intox
Norway62 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I go to CNN and it says " U.S. SCHOOL MASSACRE " in huge caps with breaking news on the front page, sigh. | ||
Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:25 .maLice. wrote: Yeah, sure, but 150,000 elementary school children don't get shot to death by a lunatic everyday you fucking moron. It doesn't happen any day, ever. | ||
BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:27 amazingxkcd wrote: As if any gun control laws is going to stop bastards from illegally obtaining guns regardless. There is a direct correlation between access to gun and homicide rates. Thus the more access people have to guns, the more people die. UNODC murder rates most recent year: Japan 0.3 Germany 0.8 China 1.0 United Kingdom 1.2 Greece 1.5 Iraq 2.0 Palestine 4.1 United States 4.2 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate Let's get the United States out of the gutter when it comes to murder rates. There is no reason for a first world country to have third world murder rates, and access to guns plays a gigantic role in that. Our homicide rate should not be more than Palestine and double what Iraq has... | ||
Sermokala
United States13735 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:24 McBengt wrote: I see. Not too familiar with firearms I'm afraid. Is it common for people to be armed with heavier weapons in the US, as in weapons typically used by the military? Quite the opposite. Military firearms are not designed to kill people (designed to wound and maim them instead) while hunters in america prefer high powered rifles and shotguns. Cheap illegal handguns are the things that cause most homicides in inner city gang violence. Shootings like this are only a tiny fraction of gun violence in america. The horrible part out of all of this is that these mass shootings happen in "gun free areas" where once someone comes in with a gun and wants to kill people no one is capable of stopping them. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:31 heliusx wrote: You cannot buy a automatic firearm without going through the legal process for it. It takes time to process the request and investigation on you by the ATF after that you must do paperwork with the local law enforcement. There is NO WAY you can legally purchase an auto weapon without going through the ATF it's simply impossible. If anyone is telling you they got a fully auto without federal involvement they are either lying or purchased illegaly. Illegal purchases are very common. There is so little regulation that there's essentially no risk in doing so. | ||
AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
People should immidiately stop any kind of argument, I hope the mods will crack down hard on this thread. | ||
Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:24 101toss wrote: Gun control doesn't stop shit like this Remember the string of kindergarten knife attacks in china? Some guy in China just knifed 22 school kids yesterday http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html the big difference is that most of them are still alive ;/ | ||
Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 15 2012 03:31 Intox wrote: What kind of sick fucks would do that to innocent children.. how the hell do you convince yourself actions like that are just?!? Thoughts to the victims and their families, rest in peace. | ||
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