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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it.
A gun control topic can be found here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472

Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42491 Posts
December 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#341
On December 15 2012 05:20 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:18 tMomiji wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:11 airtown wrote:
Wouldn't it be amazing if everyone cared this much when 30 Afghans or Iraqis died from a suicide bombing?


That is not what we are talking about. When that happens, we can talk about it and care about it. Let's talk about what's happening NOW.


5500 children die in Africa everyday. so 22 every 6 minutes. Let's talk.

Take it elsewhere.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 20:22:42
December 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#342
On December 15 2012 05:20 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:18 tMomiji wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:11 airtown wrote:
Wouldn't it be amazing if everyone cared this much when 30 Afghans or Iraqis died from a suicide bombing?


That is not what we are talking about. When that happens, we can talk about it and care about it. Let's talk about what's happening NOW.


5500 children die in Africa everyday. so 22 every 6 minutes. Let's talk.


Then open your very own thread about it and I'm sure people who feel the same will join in on your discussion.

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#343
SE Cupp is now crying.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#344
Just missed the speech, but condolences to the families and those involved.
The universe created an audience for itself.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
December 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#345
On December 15 2012 05:20 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:18 tMomiji wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:11 airtown wrote:
Wouldn't it be amazing if everyone cared this much when 30 Afghans or Iraqis died from a suicide bombing?


That is not what we are talking about. When that happens, we can talk about it and care about it. Let's talk about what's happening NOW.


5500 children die in Africa everyday. so 22 every 6 minutes. Let's talk.


If you want to make a thread about it, that's great, but this isn't the place for it. I hate it when people try to diminish what happens to us by comparing us to other countries; it really makes me insane!!

I'm sorry, but this hits really close to home for me considering it's in my state and not too far away. Maybe I shouldn't be talking about it with this being the case, but seriously, can we not get sidetracked?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
December 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#346
On December 15 2012 05:21 humblegar wrote:
Why on earth are they interviewing the children at this moment? No, they are not "ok". Just incredible.


the exact same thing crossed my mind while i was watching the video, made me so mad
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#347
On December 15 2012 05:21 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:11 airtown wrote:
Wouldn't it be amazing if everyone cared this much when 30 Afghans or Iraqis died from a suicide bombing?


Whether you believe me or not, I do.


I'm not in control of how much time the media spends discussing specific events, nor do I differentiate between innocent victims. I can't sympathize with a suicide bomber any more than I can with a mass murderer who shoots up a school, therefore my "care" is equal in regards to the victims of either scenario.


I don't think about it this rationally.
These are wasted lives. That's all that really matters to me.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rasmudd
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden127 Posts
December 14 2012 20:24 GMT
#348
On December 15 2012 05:19 Sikly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:14 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:08 Zelniq wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza just tweeted a minute ago. and then there's this guy https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/279672597837402112/photo/1

is it that hard for people to realize that there are many people with the same name?


as for the shooting...who would shoot kids in a kindergarten class? must have a serious mental illness and be a psychopath. and there were 2 of them at least.. this has got to be one of the worst tragedies to ever happen on US soil


I really don't understand the difference between killing a bunch of kindergartners or a bunch or movie-goers, or a bunch of high-shool kids, or a bunch of university students. It's always abhorrent and inexplicable when innocent people get killed. Is it really that much easier to justify going to a bingo-hall and mowing down a bunch of elderly people? We can't explain this guy, or anybody like him without going to that place ourselves.


The difference is, usually when highschools or colleges get shot up it is by people who attend the school and have issues with specific people. Its horrible, unjustifiable, and wrong in every way, but the link is there. It is something to point at.

Shooting a young child is impossible to justify. Shooting 5-10 year olds that have done nothing is almost completely impossible to link, to justify for the average person. Because the deed is that much harder to understand, it is that much more evil, and worse. You are right, any death like this is horrible, but children(for most) are the hardest to accept the lost of.


Dude. It's not impossible to justify. Just look at all the outrage. Some angry and suicidal people would love to have a stab at being globally known and famous. So you can thank the rabid media outlets for making it such a powerful thing to do.

I'm really sorry for saying that as I do sympathize with the families affected by the tragedy. But the media coverage is a tragedy of itself that surely will lead to more sensless murders.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
December 14 2012 20:25 GMT
#349
On December 15 2012 05:19 Sikly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:14 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:08 Zelniq wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza just tweeted a minute ago. and then there's this guy https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/279672597837402112/photo/1

is it that hard for people to realize that there are many people with the same name?


as for the shooting...who would shoot kids in a kindergarten class? must have a serious mental illness and be a psychopath. and there were 2 of them at least.. this has got to be one of the worst tragedies to ever happen on US soil


I really don't understand the difference between killing a bunch of kindergartners or a bunch or movie-goers, or a bunch of high-shool kids, or a bunch of university students. It's always abhorrent and inexplicable when innocent people get killed. Is it really that much easier to justify going to a bingo-hall and mowing down a bunch of elderly people? We can't explain this guy, or anybody like him without going to that place ourselves.


The difference is, usually when highschools or colleges get shot up it is by people who attend the school and have issues with specific people. Its horrible, unjustifiable, and wrong in every way, but the link is there. It is something to point at.

Shooting a young child is impossible to justify. Shooting 5-10 year olds that have done nothing is almost completely impossible to link, to justify for the average person. Because the deed is that much harder to understand, it is that much more evil, and worse. You are right, any death like this is horrible, but children(for most) are the hardest to accept the lost of.


It's the same. The shooter went there to kill his mother. He had a target, at a familiar place. If the family has been in that town long enough, who's to say the shooter wasn't an alumnus of that school? His mother taught there...

To me, there is no difference. I'm not saddened any more or less by the specifics of the victims.
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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
December 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#350
I never understand these types of things, as people we will make this the biggest new story for days. Everyone will be commentating and expressing their sadness with the situation. While on the otherside kids are dying in far greater numbers everyday because of things like hunger and thirst. In the iraq war there have been over 100k documented civilian casualties. Could you imagine if 100k American civilians have died because of this war.

Its fine to show compassion and grief in this situations, but in reality it just show the ignorance of the American people,

Im am an American and wish nothing more then to have reform in this country.

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18382 Posts
December 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#351
god a primary school, why would someone do this...
Cylluus
Profile Joined November 2011
United States153 Posts
December 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#352
Matthew Keys @TheMatthewKeys
[Newtown school shooting] RT @FixAaron: CNN now says suspect's brother also found dead in Hoboken, NJ.
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
December 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#353
Good speach from Obama. Even though words wont heal those wounds they atleast may bring some comfort and remind others how easily the ones you love can be taken from you.

I just wish shit like this would stop...
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
ThreeAcross
Profile Joined January 2011
172 Posts
December 14 2012 20:29 GMT
#354
On December 15 2012 05:25 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:19 Sikly wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:14 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On December 15 2012 05:08 Zelniq wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza just tweeted a minute ago. and then there's this guy https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/279672597837402112/photo/1

is it that hard for people to realize that there are many people with the same name?


as for the shooting...who would shoot kids in a kindergarten class? must have a serious mental illness and be a psychopath. and there were 2 of them at least.. this has got to be one of the worst tragedies to ever happen on US soil


I really don't understand the difference between killing a bunch of kindergartners or a bunch or movie-goers, or a bunch of high-shool kids, or a bunch of university students. It's always abhorrent and inexplicable when innocent people get killed. Is it really that much easier to justify going to a bingo-hall and mowing down a bunch of elderly people? We can't explain this guy, or anybody like him without going to that place ourselves.


The difference is, usually when highschools or colleges get shot up it is by people who attend the school and have issues with specific people. Its horrible, unjustifiable, and wrong in every way, but the link is there. It is something to point at.

Shooting a young child is impossible to justify. Shooting 5-10 year olds that have done nothing is almost completely impossible to link, to justify for the average person. Because the deed is that much harder to understand, it is that much more evil, and worse. You are right, any death like this is horrible, but children(for most) are the hardest to accept the lost of.


It's the same. The shooter went there to kill his mother. He had a target, at a familiar place. If the family has been in that town long enough, who's to say the shooter wasn't an alumnus of that school? His mother taught there...

To me, there is no difference. I'm not saddened any more or less by the specifics of the victims.


You can tell when someone doesn't have kids or hasn't been around them much.

Nevermind. I won't go as far as I did.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 14 2012 20:29 GMT
#355
On December 15 2012 05:27 Cylluus wrote:
Matthew Keys @TheMatthewKeys
[Newtown school shooting] RT @FixAaron: CNN now says suspect's brother also found dead in Hoboken, NJ.


So he wasn't taken in custody?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
December 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#356
On December 15 2012 05:27 jcroisdale wrote:
I never understand these types of things, as people we will make this the biggest new story for days. Everyone will be commentating and expressing their sadness with the situation. While on the otherside kids are dying in far greater numbers everyday because of things like hunger and thirst. In the iraq war there have been over 100k documented civilian casualties. Could you imagine if 100k American civilians have died because of this war.

Its fine to show compassion and grief in this situations, but in reality it just show the ignorance of the American people,

Im am an American and wish nothing more then to have reform in this country.

Autism much?

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"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
December 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#357
#stopinterviewingchildren
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#358
Who? The dead brother?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
December 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#359
On December 15 2012 05:27 jcroisdale wrote:
I never understand these types of things, as people we will make this the biggest new story for days. Everyone will be commentating and expressing their sadness with the situation. While on the otherside kids are dying in far greater numbers everyday because of things like hunger and thirst. In the iraq war there have been over 100k documented civilian casualties. Could you imagine if 100k American civilians have died because of this war.

Its fine to show compassion and grief in this situations, but in reality it just show the ignorance of the American people,

Im am an American and wish nothing more then to have reform in this country.


Then please good sir, feel free to open up your very own thread right here in the General forum, where you may foster this discussion that you seem to be so very interested in.

As it stands though, this thread is not the place for that.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
December 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#360
Very nice words from Obama.. He gets you right in the feels every time

Americans can be proud of having such a charismatic president, especially when things like this happen
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
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