EPTI mean someone will have to defend the government in front of the court right?
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
I mean someone will have to defend the government in front of the court right? | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:09 Nakajin wrote: I honestly just want information, what are the power/responsibility of the AG exactly? It honestly is a bit strange to me to have someone working for the government as attorney to refuse to defend a executive order because he/she believe it is not constitutional, isn't that the judges work to decide? I mean someone will have to defend the government in front of the court right? the AG just determines what is lawful and what isn't. Sally went above and beyond by stating whether it was 'just' or 'right'. She should have just resigned, but wanted some publicity points on her departure. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:11 biology]major wrote: the AG just determines what is lawful and what isn't. Sally went above and beyond by stating whether it was 'just' or 'right'. She should have just resigned, but wanted some publicity points on her departure. She is sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to obey all directions given by the POTUS. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:00 biology]major wrote: calm down, we are so far away from facism it would require light speed travel and bending of spacetime to get there. Our institutions are stronger than Trump. institutions strengthen and weaken over time. behavior like this can cause them to be weakened unless it is very vigorously opposed, including opposition by his own party/supporters. some people are being a bit excessive of course. and our institutions are stronger than trump isn't much of an endorsement  | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: She is sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to obey all directions given by the POTUS. Well, she pulled a Comey by providing unnecessary details and explanations about what is right or wrong. That is the president's job. Her job is to simply state if it is legal or not. So no, she failed miserably and she is an interim AG with a few days left. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:14 biology]major wrote: Well, she pulled a Comey by providing unnecessary details and explanations about what is right or wrong. That is the president's job. Her job is to simply state if it is legal or not. So no, she failed miserably and she is an interim AG with a few days left. Haha what? You must be trolling. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: She is sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to obey all directions given by the POTUS. Ok, so she is like a judge, or just a legal advisor? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Now that is some funny shit right there. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:17 Nakajin wrote: Ok, so she is like a judge, or just a legal advisor? No she is the attorney that reps the Government the chief one at least. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: She is sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to obey all directions given by the POTUS. Her proclamation was absurdly obtuse in all of its political glory. Trump was right to can her, and I don't think that his language in the termination letter was out of place. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:19 LegalLord wrote: I have to say that I think Trump did exactly what he should have with this obtuse and utterly politicized interim AG's statement. Good riddance. firing was of course appropriate, what about the wording of the letter though? | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: No she is the attorney that reps the Government the chief one at least. I mean I can see why there is problem here, I don't really see why she has to believe if the law is constitutional or not, it's not her to decide. She probably didn't deserve to be insulted in a letter, but if your lawyer is not gonna represent you, you have to get another one, someone have to defend you, right or wrong. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:18 xDaunt wrote: Her proclamation was absurdly obtuse in all of its political glory. Trump was right to can her, and I don't think that his language in the termination letter was out of place. You're blind now... it's sad. User was warned for this post | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:22 zlefin wrote: firing was of course appropriate, what about the wording of the letter though? Betrayed =/= treason, so I don't see the problem here. She did indeed fail to do her job properly. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:27 LegalLord wrote: Betrayed =/= treason, so I don't see the problem here. She did indeed fail to do her job properly. it's still awfully strong wording throughout, and not very consistent wtih democratic standards. it does feel more like the kind of thing you hear in bad regimes. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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ChristianS
United States3217 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:27 LegalLord wrote: Betrayed =/= treason, so I don't see the problem here. She did indeed fail to do her job properly. Failed to do her job =/= traitor, and it's a longer walk from failed to do her job to traitor than it is from traitor to treason. Anybody have a comment on Trump installing his own interim AG without any congressional approval, who can do whatever Trump asks until Congress gives him whoever he nominated? What's the point of requiring congressional approval if he can do whatever the fuck he wants while they deliberate? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 31 2017 12:27 LegalLord wrote: Betrayed =/= treason, so I don't see the problem here. She did indeed fail to do her job properly. they could have said that she got fired for being unable to do her job/for refusing to do her job. Betrayal kinda makes it sound like she's going to end up in in the gulags... | ||
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