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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:12:09
October 13 2012 16:07 GMT
#421
RIP Amanda Todd. All I have to say is what in the fuck is wrong with that dude who stalked her over the years and continued to hand out the video to students in the schools she attended. Hope there is a hell, for sadists like these.
amrojare
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland85 Posts
October 13 2012 16:10 GMT
#422
RIP ;__;
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
October 13 2012 16:19 GMT
#423
Yes, she made incredibly stupid mistakes. Yes, she should have known better. Yes, in a way she brought this on herself.

BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHE DESERVED *ANY* OF WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH. There is a BIG difference. Wherever she is, I hope she has found the happiness she was seeking...rest now, Amanda, you deserve your peace...-sniff-
"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 13 2012 16:26 GMT
#424
I feel so sorry for Amanda Todd. R.I.P!
I just saw the video btw and it got very sad watching it. :[
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Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
October 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#425
On October 14 2012 01:19 tMomiji wrote:
Yes, she made incredibly stupid mistakes. Yes, she should have known better. Yes, in a way she brought this on herself.

She brought it on herself to get harrassed and her life ruined multiple times by the same person?

That is interesting. I'd see the ppl at fault who obviously had the goal to ruin someone's life.
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Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
October 13 2012 16:36 GMT
#426
On October 14 2012 01:29 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:19 tMomiji wrote:
Yes, she made incredibly stupid mistakes. Yes, she should have known better. Yes, in a way she brought this on herself.

She brought it on herself to get harrassed and her life ruined multiple times by the same person?

That is interesting. I'd see the ppl at fault who obviously had the goal to ruin someone's life.


None of the statements you quoted were false. tMomiji made perfectly clear that she was not at fault. Why would you cut of his quote?
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Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
October 13 2012 16:39 GMT
#427
On October 14 2012 00:16 habermas wrote:
I really don't understand people that feel so sorry for her. There's so much shit going on in the world to feel sorry about yet some random teenager that commits suicide seems to create an outrage of compassion bigger than real tragedies often involving many lives.

And since I'm on it i can't understand most of the actions this girl did. The story just seems like some made up bullshit. She lost all her friends because of a photo of boobs? Really? I'm pretty sure if a photo of my dick got public on the internet I wouldn't lose all my friends if any. Except I assume her boobs were actually nice to look at, so what's the problem? And if she really was so sensitive etc. why no one had helped her: parents, teachers, psychologist? Everyone hated her because of the boobs? Also you don't have to have a facebook account.

Seriously the whole global mourning after her saddens me more then this whole story.



One man dies and it is a tragedy, thousands die and it's a statistics

So yes, she will far more attention than she deserves because she made a video on youtube and people love drama.
Also in such an individualist society, it's so easy to get a response through emotions, we could cry over all the kids who suffer in coltan mines so we can get our cool gadgets, but there's so many ... Plus they don't have good sob stories to tell , unlike one brat who showed her body to some random guy because her parents didn't educate her properly on what the internet is

Note that i'm not saying "she got what she deserved", she made mistakes and it ended up hurting her a lot, enough that she deems it worth a suicide, nor am i saying we should all cry for the hundreds of thousands who die so that we can live more comfortably...
I merely wanted to point out the hypocrisy of the western world
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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 13 2012 16:44 GMT
#428
Teenagers suiciding so much lately it's really sad how it can turn this way for so many That video is really depressing.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:44:41
October 13 2012 16:44 GMT
#429
On October 14 2012 01:39 Marti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 00:16 habermas wrote:
I really don't understand people that feel so sorry for her. There's so much shit going on in the world to feel sorry about yet some random teenager that commits suicide seems to create an outrage of compassion bigger than real tragedies often involving many lives.

And since I'm on it i can't understand most of the actions this girl did. The story just seems like some made up bullshit. She lost all her friends because of a photo of boobs? Really? I'm pretty sure if a photo of my dick got public on the internet I wouldn't lose all my friends if any. Except I assume her boobs were actually nice to look at, so what's the problem? And if she really was so sensitive etc. why no one had helped her: parents, teachers, psychologist? Everyone hated her because of the boobs? Also you don't have to have a facebook account.

Seriously the whole global mourning after her saddens me more then this whole story.

I merely wanted to point out the hypocrisy of the western world

Thank you, this is the place and time for that. You really enlightened us.
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Lip the Pencilboy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Italy420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:48:02
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#430
i find it hard to express an opinion since we really wont ever know what actually happened - Whats her fould what was not, hard to tell . Its another sad story of our species.
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#431
I wonder what kind of parents she had, to be able to do all those bad mistakes they must have not had much postitive influence towards her. Sad story. Coulda been stopped. Why didn't the school step in? So many questions, but the fact is, it didn't matter the stuff she did, or what kind of person she was, no one deserves to suffer so much at the hands of others being idiots. To force her into a state in which she decided to kill herself.

RIP
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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
October 13 2012 17:01 GMT
#432
I just really wish someone could have helped her
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
October 13 2012 17:02 GMT
#433
On October 14 2012 01:36 Gigaudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 01:29 Eisregen wrote:
On October 14 2012 01:19 tMomiji wrote:
Yes, she made incredibly stupid mistakes. Yes, she should have known better. Yes, in a way she brought this on herself.

She brought it on herself to get harrassed and her life ruined multiple times by the same person?

That is interesting. I'd see the ppl at fault who obviously had the goal to ruin someone's life.


None of the statements you quoted were false. tMomiji made perfectly clear that she was not at fault. Why would you cut of his quote?


I guess people like to twist words. Thank you for seeing this.
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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
October 13 2012 17:04 GMT
#434
On October 14 2012 00:38 Krohm wrote:
I feel this is getting too much attention, more than it deserves. Don't get me wrong it's sad she killed herself, it's sad her life was cut short over bullshit like this.

I just have a lot of issues surrounding this specific incident. She could have avoided a lot of this, first of all by not showing her breasts to random people online. We can only assume she did it often. The media had the audacity to say "She was lured into showing her breasts to an unknown male." I'm sorry but you don't "lured" into that. That would be like me stabbing someone and then telling the police the victim lured me into stabbing them. She should have had better security settings on Facebook. She shouldn't have done whatever she did with this other guy who had a girlfriend. She moved and things caught up with her again, there is just no excuse for that happening without it being her own fault. She actively searched out drugs and alcohol. That just doesn't fall into your lap, especially when you're 15. She said she was "alone", she wasn't. No one is ever alone, they just deluded themselves into believing that.

Growing up I can say I was a bully and I've been bullied. I've seen people get it way worse than this girl (Now I know feelings are subjective and it doesn't matter if it's worse in an objective sense, because situations can always be the "worst" for the specific victim). I actually know a kid who killed himself in grade 5 due to bullying. Did it really receive much attention? No. Many people have killed themselves over bullying and cyber-bullying but it hasn't received as much attention. I don't know why, but I can only speculate because she's a moderately attractive young girl from middle/upper-suburbia. Also this is being picked up by all the "Trend-whores" of the internet. This just reminds me of Kony 2012 all over again. No one will care in 2-3 months, even though this is just a pessimistic outlook I suppose I can say that I do hope something will change to a degree.

I apologize if this sounds cold or uncaring.

Now with that being said, I hope the police are trying to catch this unknown male. Sending out nude photos of a 15 year old girl falls under a lot of cyber-crimes and you can do heavy time for that.


She didn't show her breasts in a vacuum. She was clearly very messed up by the time she did that - in the video she suggested her parents are divorced, there were def. other factors in play. Please don't make so many assumptions.

I think she had some very serious issues that she couldn't get help for and was unfortunate enough to be in environments full of mean people more concerned about their own minor issues like popularity at school than the mental health of one girl. I wish someone had found her and helped her.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 17:07:29
October 13 2012 17:06 GMT
#435
On October 14 2012 01:47 Lip the Pencilboy wrote:
i find it hard to express an opinion since we really wont ever know what actually happened - Whats her fould what was not, hard to tell . Its another sad story of our species.

The point is that, from a bystander's point of view, passing judgement in this case is a non-issue; By definition of the interiority of suicide and suicidal ideation, it is impossible for a third-party to make a valid judgement as it pertains to the "rightness" of the girls actions. Instead we ought to simply mourn her death and do what we can to prevent these sorts of situations from happening.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
October 13 2012 17:15 GMT
#436
Sad story. Really could have been prevented if she had gone to get some help about this extortion.
But only the stupid commit suicide.
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Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
October 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#437
Really sad thing to hear.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#438
It's too late for her, but parents should take greater care of their children, so that they don't end up like this. She was left alone with a computer connected to the internet at a young age, and it's very easy to make mistakes when you're young, inexperienced and there's no one else to prevent it. I don't think she deserved it, because of her naivety.
I just hope there is a special place in hell for her stalker
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
October 13 2012 17:24 GMT
#439
The amount of victim blaming in this thread just makes me completely sick. I had no idea so many people in this world lack empathy.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary955 Posts
October 13 2012 17:30 GMT
#440
all these bans makes me not express my thoughts.
agentzimp
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