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On October 13 2012 07:40 serum321 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 04:13 Lucumo wrote:
Honestly, all this bs about cyberbullying is so annoying. I mean, is it mandatory to use any social networking websites? Exactly what I was thinking as the video went on, why does she even have a facebook account at this point? This is all due to awesome parenting btw, sure just let your 12 year old daughter on the internet unsupervised w/ webcam. Then ignore her while she does drugs/alchohol and cuts herself.
I think this is closer to the truth than a lot of media people want to admit. It's impossible to judge since we can't know the whole situation but it's hard to ignore.
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On October 13 2012 07:31 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 07:29 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 06:53 Heweree wrote:On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote:
She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. QUOTE] You don't have any perspective at this age. You're a disgusting person seriously. Says who, you? right lol. Him, me, a whole bunch of other people who are disgusted with your statement.
So because some people don't have perspective at that age, does that mean the whole world is like that? I guess the majority of the world's population at that age wouldn't have made that dumb ass decisition, does that mean I have to sympathise with her disgrace?, not at all I don't care neither do you, we will forget this in less than 5 minutes the world keeps moving and political correctness is a form of tyranny. I understand it where somebody or a group of people who had a real problem feel insulted, me being black for example I get a little pissed off when somebody is racist around, but she had no real problems if you think about it, the whole thing was an excuse and could have done it for some other dumb reason too, maybe she didn't deserve to live in the first place, you know nature has mysterious ways.
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On October 13 2012 04:23 killa_robot wrote:
Watched the video now....
She made so many damn mistakes. Flashed random people online, slept with a guy who had a girlfriend (granted he was at fault there too) and then lied to protect him (srsly?). Granted, the bullying was undeserved, and I feel sorry for her for that, but it's really hard to sympathize with her when she just continued to make the same mistakes and then was stupid enough to kill herself.
*Sigh
We live in a world where people are way too fucked up, and too many people are okay with it/ignore it. We're being killed by apathy.
Come on man you can't really mean that.. A young girl doing stupid shit is like standard. Only difference is that she got picked out by some really sick fucks who really exploited her weakness. Hard to imagine that people would actually go so far and really keep on bullying her even if they see how bad she is actuallly doing..
Edit: And the biggest asshole of the year award goes to: Nevermind86! congrats buddy!
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On October 13 2012 07:51 B.I.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 04:23 killa_robot wrote:
Watched the video now....
She made so many damn mistakes. Flashed random people online, slept with a guy who had a girlfriend (granted he was at fault there too) and then lied to protect him (srsly?). Granted, the bullying was undeserved, and I feel sorry for her for that, but it's really hard to sympathize with her when she just continued to make the same mistakes and then was stupid enough to kill herself.
*Sigh
We live in a world where people are way too fucked up, and too many people are okay with it/ignore it. We're being killed by apathy. Come on man you can't really mean that.. A young girl doing stupid shit is like standard. Only difference is that she got picked out by some really sick fucks who really exploited her weakness. Hard to imagine that people would actually go so far and really keep on bullying her even if they see how bad she is actuallly doing..
They probably wanted to see if they could get her to kill herself.
The moral of the story is: sick fucks are out there. Take steps to protect yourself online, the same way that you take steps to protect yourself in real life. If you wouldn't go walking down dark alleys in gangland at 2 am, then don't publish your personal information alongside attention whoring like flashing.
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On October 13 2012 07:51 Nevermind86 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 07:31 Djzapz wrote:On October 13 2012 07:29 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 06:53 Heweree wrote:On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote:
She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. QUOTE] You don't have any perspective at this age. You're a disgusting person seriously. Says who, you? right lol. Him, me, a whole bunch of other people who are disgusted with your statement. So because some people don't have perspective at that age, does that mean the whole world is like that? I guess the majority of the world's population at that age wouldn't have made that dumb ass decisition, does that mean I have to sympathise with her disgrace?, not at all I don't care neither do you, we will forget this in less than 5 minutes the world keeps moving and political correctness is a form of tyranny. I understand it where somebody or a group of people who had a real problem feel insulted, me being black for example I get a little pissed off when somebody is racist around, but she had no real problems if you think about it, the whole thing was an excuse and could have done it for some other dumb reason too, maybe she didn't deserve to live in the first place, you know nature has mysterious ways.
Yeah...there are people in the world with real problems...like people in Somalia...
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Even though she made some mistakes, she didn't deserve to go out like this. World's a fucked up place and i hope all the bullies will realize what they did when they are older and hopefully regret it, deeply.
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On October 13 2012 07:51 B.I.G. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 04:23 killa_robot wrote:
Watched the video now....
She made so many damn mistakes. Flashed random people online, slept with a guy who had a girlfriend (granted he was at fault there too) and then lied to protect him (srsly?). Granted, the bullying was undeserved, and I feel sorry for her for that, but it's really hard to sympathize with her when she just continued to make the same mistakes and then was stupid enough to kill herself.
*Sigh
We live in a world where people are way too fucked up, and too many people are okay with it/ignore it. We're being killed by apathy. Come on man you can't really mean that.. A young girl doing stupid shit is like standard. Only difference is that she got picked out by some really sick fucks who really exploited her weakness. Hard to imagine that people would actually go so far and really keep on bullying her even if they see how bad she is actuallly doing.. Edit: And the biggest asshole of the year award goes to: Nevermind86! congrats buddy!
We really shouldn't be advocating flashing random people over the internet while you're under aged (or at all for that matter), and being a mistress, as a standard. Just because others do it and get away with it, doesn't mean we should consider it acceptable/normal behaviour.
And people are assholes, really not hard to imagine they'd do this, or do worse, if they had been given to opportunity.
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On October 13 2012 07:51 Nevermind86 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 07:31 Djzapz wrote:On October 13 2012 07:29 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 06:53 Heweree wrote:On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote:
She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. QUOTE] You don't have any perspective at this age. You're a disgusting person seriously. Says who, you? right lol. Him, me, a whole bunch of other people who are disgusted with your statement. So because some people don't have perspective at that age, does that mean the whole world is like that? I guess the majority of the world's population at that age wouldn't have made that dumb ass decisition, does that mean I have to sympathise with her disgrace?, not at all I don't care neither do you, we will forget this in less than 5 minutes the world keeps moving and political correctness is a form of tyranny. I understand it where somebody or a group of people who had a real problem feel insulted, me being black for example I get a little pissed off when somebody is racist around, but she had no real problems if you think about it, the whole thing was an excuse and could have done it for some other dumb reason too, maybe she didn't deserve to live in the first place, you know nature has mysterious ways.
It doesn't mean everyone is like that. It means some people are like that and you sympathize or at the very least not insult them. You don't know what it's like for them. You can point at examples of people who have it worse, but the fact that they have a tougher character doesn't mean that the people who don't should be disrespected.
Your tribal mentality may work for you. "Strong man better. *Grunt*." But that's a crude and pitiful mentality you're flaunting around. Decent people, unlike you, acknowledge the existence of people who need support to function. While animals may abandon their weak, civilized people take care of them until they're better. Don't be a lowly animal. Your lack of respect for her disturbed mind and your attitude is exactly what kept this girl from getting the help that could have led to her having a happy life in the future.
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I'm going bold and i'll say that she was probably mentally unstable, before the turn of events. I mean the way she handled the whole situation was... Every single one of her decisions are plain attention seeking(as well as this video). But loneliness drives people insane i guess, if only there was any relative or something to guide her...
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she did some things she didn't think through. Everyone does. But for most of people these stupid things die out, get forgotten,... This is just awful to hear.
Another reason why I've never used (nor intend to) any social media besides msn (when I was in highschool). If I want to talk to my friends, I give them a call or send them a text message (cellphone).
Fuck bullies, I hate them so much. In my first years of high school, my teeth were badly positioned (my braces solved it) and I got bullied by some people. In my eyes, I handled it through strength, my answer to the bullying wasn't morally correct but fuck that. I just 'bullied' the bullies back. I ripped on them twice as hard as they did on me (they were only 3-4 people anyway) and because I was a lot smarter, my jokes on them were a lot better and people started supporting me. I stopped bullying these people -I never cared about them in the first place- when they stopped bullying me.
Don't judge me as a hypocrit please, being bullied is an awful thing, you take away someone's youth, make their life a living hell. You're only young once, it's supposed to be an incredible time with almost no responsibilities or care in the world.
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On October 13 2012 06:18 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 06:17 Marti wrote:On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote:
Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. Yes, i am also convinced that ending one's life is very selfish and that everyone who is suffering should be denied the right to end it because that's "stupid, juvenile and selfish", and that anyone who does that is probably a coward, nevermind the fact that it probably takes balls of steel to decide to kill yourself... Juvenile you say? How old do you think she was? At least read something about her before you throw out your opinion. EDIT Actually, looking at your word choices in general I would say you know nothing about suicide. If you did, you wouldn't call people who commit suicide "selfish".
You must be romanian ...
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On October 13 2012 08:01 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 07:51 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 07:31 Djzapz wrote:On October 13 2012 07:29 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 06:53 Heweree wrote:On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote:
She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. QUOTE] You don't have any perspective at this age. You're a disgusting person seriously. Says who, you? right lol. Him, me, a whole bunch of other people who are disgusted with your statement. So because some people don't have perspective at that age, does that mean the whole world is like that? I guess the majority of the world's population at that age wouldn't have made that dumb ass decisition, does that mean I have to sympathise with her disgrace?, not at all I don't care neither do you, we will forget this in less than 5 minutes the world keeps moving and political correctness is a form of tyranny. I understand it where somebody or a group of people who had a real problem feel insulted, me being black for example I get a little pissed off when somebody is racist around, but she had no real problems if you think about it, the whole thing was an excuse and could have done it for some other dumb reason too, maybe she didn't deserve to live in the first place, you know nature has mysterious ways. It doesn't mean everyone is like that. It means some people are like that and you sympathize or at the very least not insult them. You don't know what it's like for them. You can point at examples of people who have it worse, but the fact that they have a tougher character doesn't mean that the people who don't should be disrespected. Your tribal mentality may work for you. "Strong man better. *Grunt*." But that's a crude and pitiful mentality you're flaunting around. Decent people, unlike you, acknowledge the existence of people who need support to function. While animals may abandon their weak, civilized people take care of them until they're better. Don't be a lowly animal. Your lack of respect for her disturbed mind and your attitude is exactly what kept this girl from getting the help that could have led to her having a happy life in the future.
Well, this pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly, only that I'd add that it takes blatant ignorance to approach a concept as severe as suicide with such a singular view. The whole "this is how my life is; time to juxtapose it over the entirety of mankind" mentality is not a legitimate brand of proof nor actionable piece of information, contrary to popular opinion.
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On October 13 2012 08:12 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:01 Djzapz wrote:On October 13 2012 07:51 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 07:31 Djzapz wrote:On October 13 2012 07:29 Nevermind86 wrote:On October 13 2012 06:53 Heweree wrote:On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote:
She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. QUOTE] You don't have any perspective at this age. You're a disgusting person seriously. Says who, you? right lol. Him, me, a whole bunch of other people who are disgusted with your statement. So because some people don't have perspective at that age, does that mean the whole world is like that? I guess the majority of the world's population at that age wouldn't have made that dumb ass decisition, does that mean I have to sympathise with her disgrace?, not at all I don't care neither do you, we will forget this in less than 5 minutes the world keeps moving and political correctness is a form of tyranny. I understand it where somebody or a group of people who had a real problem feel insulted, me being black for example I get a little pissed off when somebody is racist around, but she had no real problems if you think about it, the whole thing was an excuse and could have done it for some other dumb reason too, maybe she didn't deserve to live in the first place, you know nature has mysterious ways. It doesn't mean everyone is like that. It means some people are like that and you sympathize or at the very least not insult them. You don't know what it's like for them. You can point at examples of people who have it worse, but the fact that they have a tougher character doesn't mean that the people who don't should be disrespected. Your tribal mentality may work for you. "Strong man better. *Grunt*." But that's a crude and pitiful mentality you're flaunting around. Decent people, unlike you, acknowledge the existence of people who need support to function. While animals may abandon their weak, civilized people take care of them until they're better. Don't be a lowly animal. Your lack of respect for her disturbed mind and your attitude is exactly what kept this girl from getting the help that could have led to her having a happy life in the future. Well, this pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly, only that I'd add that it takes blatant ignorance to approach a concept as severe as suicide with such a singular view. The whole "this is how my life is; time to juxtapose it over the entirety of mankind" mentality is not a legitimate brand of proof nor actionable piece of information, contrary to popular opinion.
People do tend to get bottled up in their own perspective and extrapolate from there to form their entire world view.
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I still don't know why bullying escalate the way it does in US/Canada, i guess it's a cultural thing?
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Things are not worse today than before (in school), there's just more sensational articles published, coupled with people actually talking about issues today.
Although more evidence that facebook is retarded, yes?
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She attended my school. She did a lot of really dumb things, that cue card thing is just from her side of it so it looks like she is the victim, and thats why kids were mean to her. I definitely don't agree with what they did though, don't get me wrong. I've never been bullied, and usually the bullying only comes when someone does something dumb, they don't get randomly picked on. But nothing she did should make her deserve this.
Ah well. Fourth person in the last year from my school. We must be really suicidal 0.o
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On October 13 2012 08:24 DDie wrote:
I still don't know why bullying escalate the way it does in US/Canada, i guess it's a cultural thing?
Is it actually worse here? I really have no idea. Maybe it's just as bad everywhere else but we don't hear about it? I mean, these things happen all the time here, we just generally don't hear about it.
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my dad used to talk about how teachers would pick on kids and hit them when he was in school. they were the real bullys. id say its a whole lot better now adays, people are just using extreme examples like this to pretend people are worse now
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On October 13 2012 07:38 SimDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 06:52 -Switch- wrote:
i wish i could find that son of a bitch that blackmailed her Yeah that fucker needs to be shot in the head, he definitely seemed like an adult. I'd do it with no remorse. Some people just don't deserve to be part of the human race.
you mean like people who call for others to be shot, or do it themselves. ye, fuck those guys...
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Such a sad situation. My condolences to her family.
She just got caught up in something she couldn't control. She performed stupid flashing acts, yes, but from there it probably wasn't even her being fully in control of herself. And nobody deserves to be tormented and shunned like that, regardless of their mistakes.
The world we live in is harsh...
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