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Korea (South)17174 Posts
This is another true story that actually takes place a few weeks ago. The friend I make in this story is how I got into the saucy 10/20 game my other article is written about. Written due to popular demand.
"You are a mother fucking fish, hahahahaha," exclaimed a 6'0 bulky gangsterish acting 30+ year old Korean as I raked in the pot. Sure, sometimes when your opponent overbets the pot on the turn and all you hold is a three high flush draw you should fold (actually almost always), but hell...this guy's shit talk had been getting on my nerves. I had to chase it down and I got lucky. At the local 5/10 underground no-limit game people usually kept their manners, took beats like men, and didn't talk shit. Not this guy. Literally the meanest looking Korean guy I have ever seen this guy was cracking rude jokes all night on everyone. He even took the liberty of telling one of the lesser attractive girls playing that she looks like when she was a kid she had downsyndrome and started recovering from it but just quite didn't make it all the way better.
This guy had it all...not only did he run his mouth but he angled like a mother fucker. For those who don't know what angling is...it's illegal actions in poker done to extract information from your opponents. Like showing them one of your cards when they just went all-in to see how they react, or motioning like you're going to call and then pulling back before your chips touch the table, or acting like you're going to fold. Every hand was a friggen act from this guy, and I could tell he was a proud proud proud korean. He certainly did not like me. His rude behaviour pissed me off, but to be frank, I didn't have the balls to tell his huge gorilla of a man to shut the fuck up. So I did the next best thing I could in the situation. Take his money.
Cards were hot as hell for me that night. After I chased him down with that flush draw earlier in the night he gave me zero credibility. Plus the non-stop flow of beer I was consuming made him think I'm not the average run of the mill tight-ass nut-running player. Little did he know alcohol makes me play better. I busted him up completely. When I didn't have it he folded and when I had it he didn't believe me. Everything was going perfect, a combination of skill and good cards for me. It seemed like the other 6 people at the table weren't even playing. It was just me and him re-re-reraising eachother every other hand creating monster pots everywhere with him always coming up one straw short. I was up over two thousand on him after a couple hours and he had simmered down quite a bit and became incredibly quiet. Not only that but his game had tightened up completely, he was only playing quality hands at that point.
"What happened? You've been quiet for an hour now," I asked.
"......." He just looks at me as if I'm an ant for a few seconds, then says "You know what, how about me and you go play heads up right now on the other table, 10/20 blinds."
I had a lot of cash on me at that time and was feeling pretty damn cocky, drunk, and I was sure that he was a crappy player so I responded,
"10/20? haha...20/40 minimum."
"Oh, I see how it is kid." So then we cashout our normal playing chips at the casino, get our cash and ask the casino manager for a set of play chips. We weren't going to use the casino chips. We were going to use play chips and have it strictly between us to pay eachother. We both started with 4,000$ worth of chips and got a pretty girl who works there to deal for us for 50 bucks.
I was on my A-Game. Most people with big mouths play the same way in poker, atleast live. When people who have big mouths and talk a lot of shit in real life find someone who will stand up to them, they often clam up and show their true colors---they are pussies. This goes exactly the same in poker. Big mouthed players will often be super aggressive, bet like crazy, but in the face of confident re-raises they will automuck their cards. I slowly chipped down at his stack with selective HU aggression, and found myself sitting with 6200$ and he had 1800$ left. I look down at 64 of clubs in the big blind. He raises it up to 160$ and I call. Flop slides out 4-4-8 with two spades. I check and he bets 500$. I instantly move all-in and he calls with A-8. I rake in the pot and he says "Ok this just got real buddy...30/60 blinds," and he takes 8,000$ more worth of chips. I had never even played 20/40 no limit online, let alone 30/60...so this was indeed a pretty big game for me. But I wasn't concerned he was playing like a complete monkey.
We went back and forth for two more hours but I kept gaining a slight edge more and more. Seemed dull for a while until we got into another big pot. I raise with 33 to 240$ and the flop hits 3-Q-7. He checks the flop and so do I (mistake). Turn hits with a blank 2. He looks me in the eye, something he hadn't been doing much of, and it was just a small pot. I knew he had something here. He bets 500$. Earlier in the night when I was bluffing him once I announced my bet amount loud and proud, something I normally don't do, and afterwards showed him my bluff. So, loud and proud I announced "Two-thousand." He laughs and instantly moves all-in for 8,000$. I call without hesitation and he flips over Q-2 two pair, and my 33 takes down the pot with a black ace on the river. 16,000$ pot, biggest pot I had ever won in real life in my life. Damn it felt good to bust this guy up. I was up twelve grand and he stands up gets a drink and comes back and takes 10,000$ more in chips. His face was sweaty and heavy sweat drops were rolling down his nose.
He remained quiet after saying "If I lose 20 grand I'll pay you tomorrow don't got the cash now." It was over now. I raised to 240$ with AKo and he calls instantly. Flop slams down A-K-8. He bets 400$ and I call. Turn is a 2 and its a rainbow board. He bets 400$ again and I call again. Pot is now about two grand and the river hits with a 7. I have the nuts. He checks and I bet 2,000$ confidently....
"Kid, who do you think you are?" He asks as he slides in 5,000$ worth of chips for a 3,000$ reraise. Something was definitely not right about this bet, he had something for sure...but in a heads-up situation when the pot is laying you this crazy of odds and you have such a monster of a hand, folding is not an option. I call and he shows pocket eights for a set of eights and I'm flabbergasted not only at the situation but at how strangly he played it. 6,000$ of my chips were gone and now I have 10k left and he has 16k. No big deal I'm still up 6 grand on him.
For the next two hours I play the best heads up poker I can possibly do. But no matter how hard I tried I couldn't win. He was playing a very confident aggressive style and was getting some good cards. But it wasn't luck on his part. He was making several really really nice plays. He got me down to 6,000$ in chips and he had 20k. I didn't rebuy cause I was still up on him and didn't really wanna lose more than 4,000$. I was tired...his raises were thundering down on me. I was getting owned in every way possible. He really really started seeming like a fucking good player.
"YOU CAN'T FUCK WITH ME BUDDY, I FUCKING OWN YOU, WHITE SACK OF SHIT GET THE FUCK OFF MY TURF." he yelled with sweat still rolling down his nose and dripping on the table. I remained calm but the dealer girl looked a little bit frightened.
"WHAT, YOU GOT NOTHING TO SAY TO ME BUDDY?," the ape-man stands up like king-kong and tells me how much he owns me with his eyes huge as hell and bloodshot.
"Theres nothing to say, we are playing cards, so may we continue?" I ask cordially.
"HAHAHAHA OKAY LETS GO."
Very next hand he hits a flush on a river that gives me two pair as well and he takes down another 5,000$ pot. This pot put me 500$ down from my initial buyin and him 500$ up.
The human baboon then rolls his sleeves on his hoodie up, wipes the sweat off his forehead, and stands up. Walks right up next to me and shoves his face into mine with his eyes big as hell again. "HAHA LITTLE PUNK YOU WERE UP OVER TWELVE G'S AND YOU LOST IT ALL," he exclaims loudly and proudly as his head wavers back and forth. "EVERY TIME I BLUFF YOU FOLDING THE BEST HAND AND EVERY TIME I HAVE IT YOU CALL LIKE A STUPID FISH. YOU FUCKING SUCK, IM GUNNA TAKE EVERYTHING. IM SENDING YOU BACK TO AMERICA BUDDY." I tried to stay calm and hold my ground,
"No you're not."
".....????"
"You're actually being mean now, I don't like that, I quit. Take your 500 bucks. Well played nice match," I said calmly as I expected him to pick me up by my neck and throw me into the wall.
And then the unexpected happened.
The villain stands up straight, quirks his eyebrows, and slowly sits back down in his chair. He uses his hoodie to dab the sweat off his forehead and looks at me with a smile. Then, with a normal volume and demeanor, he says "So, you're telling me, after you were up that huge and lost all the way back down to down 500 bucks, and after all that shit I talked, you can just walk away like that?"
"Yeah I guess so..."
"I fucking respect that man, no hard feelings this is just my heads up act, its how I put pussies on tilt and clean them out. Let me take you to lunch -- it's on you anyways" he says with a smile.
I was completely baffled, but kinda relieved at the same time.
So we go have lunch together in his car and I find out that this guy has been playing poker professionally for over ten years. One of the nicest people I've ever met off the table. But on the table...he transforms and abuses every edge he can. He tells me about the 'big games' he knows of and that he can get me into them. I re-learned a common lesson that day...don't judge a book by it's cover.
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On February 09 2006 03:03 Rekrul wrote:
I raise with 33 to 240$ and the flop hits 3-Q-7. He checks the flop and so do I (mistake). .
good story, why was this a mistake
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Awww, you even got a date with him. jk
Nice read.
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Rad stories man, but I'm still learning poker and I don't get some of the lingo. What's HU? Still reading....
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Nice stories :D It's fun reading these ^^
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On February 09 2006 03:12 TopGear wrote:
Awww, you even got a date with him. jk
Nice read. hahaha fear of Rekrul
Man, I woulda turned so fucking red from anger if I was in your shoes, some big guy in my face after gettin smoked liked that.
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so u can learn from this book yo gogo Rek pro-poker player
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this sounds so incredible to me, pretty much like a sterotype movie
nevertheless i love your writing, it's like i'm sitting at that table and that king kong is talking to me
more! 
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nice story again. those amounts are crazy man T_T
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did he speak english or korean?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
both but his english was pretty perfect
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United States37500 Posts
Heh, I like the difference in personas between Rekrul online and Rekrul in person. You seem more collected as a person. ^^
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Are the games you play 10/20 in US currency or 10/20 in whatever Korean currency there is? What's the relative worth, ballpark figure
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Norway28825 Posts
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
its 10,000/20,000 won which = 10/20, i converted everything to dollars
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how drunk were you? kind of vague question, but i mean, you must have a lot of control when drunk if you a) play better and b) don't get pissed by losing much cash and also get the big "baboon" yelling right infront of your face afterwards. i would've been impressed even if you weren't drunk but most people (myself included) don't take shit at all when they're drunk :D
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I have a question for Rekrul. How popular is hold'em in Korea? I don't know about undergrounds but I always knew koreans favored and mostly played seven card stud. In korean online game websites like hangame and stuff, theres only 7 card stud and some hi-low things. And how good are they on hold'em? Last question, know any korean based online hold'em sites?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2006 07:07 88)GuMMi wrote:
how drunk were you? kind of vague question, but i mean, you must have a lot of control when drunk if you a) play better and b) don't get pissed by losing much cash and also get the big "baboon" yelling right infront of your face afterwards. i would've been impressed even if you weren't drunk but most people (myself included) don't take shit at all when they're drunk :D
nah i only had a few beers that night and by the time we started playing HU i stopped drinking completely
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Hahaha great story, more plz.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2006 07:21 nullmind wrote:
I have a question for Rekrul. How popular is hold'em in Korea? I don't know about undergrounds but I always knew koreans favored and mostly played seven card stud. In korean online game websites like hangame and stuff, theres only 7 card stud and some hi-low things. And how good are they on hold'em? Last question, know any korean based online hold'em sites?
its getting pretty big, in 압구정 theres 5 illegal casinos, with two more opening soon i think
the cops used to raid them, but i think they either a. stopped caring or b. are getting paid, probably b.
theres also one in 분당 now too
holdem is getting more and more popular in korea, though (but at a very slow pace i believe) though i was very surprised at how many people know how to play in these places.
no i dont know of any online sites as it would be impossible for koreans to deposit because it's illegal
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Since the first couple of paragraphs i realised "hes gotta be a hustler".
kekekkee how cool am i.
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where does he play professionally? just small local games or does he actually travel to big events?
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very nice story, HU for so much money must be very fun
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like a fucking movie again.. wow...
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was the 6 ft azn guys name, yomer?
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what kind of people play there? is the stereotype true that only "ggangpae" hang out there and how old is the average?
when you tell your parents in korea you go gambling they will kill you -_-
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great story. very entertaining. dude you should make a poker blog.
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On February 09 2006 03:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2006 03:03 Rekrul wrote:
I raise with 33 to 240$ and the flop hits 3-Q-7. He checks the flop and so do I (mistake). . good story, why was this a mistake
I assume it's because he hit the low card. If the big mother fucker had QQ or 77, he'd be fucked. The guy had more outs.
But then again, I've only played poker a few times.
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Er, if he hit the low card checking is the right thing to do.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
checking is bad building pots is good, thats all.
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wonderful rek
extra e-props for correcting flabbergasted
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Wow great story man.
Do you go to this casinos every day ?
How many hours do you play ? all night ?
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hahah really nice story ^^
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:02 MarKoNiO wrote:
Wow great story man.
Do you go to this casinos every day ?
How many hours do you play ? all night ?
couple times a week 6-14 hours of play
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Braavos36401 Posts
is live that much more worth it than online?
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Enjoyed readin it, write more of your nice stories
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:29 Hot_Bid wrote:
is live that much more worth it than online?
no online is much more worth it
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Nice story.
Yeah...write up a blog or something.
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Braavos36401 Posts
On February 09 2006 10:40 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2006 10:29 Hot_Bid wrote:
is live that much more worth it than online? no online is much more worth it
so the natural question would be why do you play life? more fun? more stories? tired of the online grind?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
all the above, its social, its fun, free beer, free food, etc etc...
when i first found these places i played 10+ hours a day...but that wasn't really healthy at all so i've cut back considerably and only play when they have 10/20 or higher big games now
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Washington, D.C9935 Posts
new friend =)
and damn it's weird how these things work out
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man, i love rekrul's stories. they're always similar to something from a movie.
progamer dream
rags to riches
gangsters
poker hustlers
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I still want to know whats the deal with give players back some of there money when u lay a bad beat on them from the last story. Is that a commen thing, and is that like a real rule or just like a unwriten rule to be nice? Also anyone picture these korean guys like smoking cigars and having scars and eye patchs on there face lol.
EDIT: Another question, when do you walk away from the table? If your up like 12k why not say to yourself "Ok I'll keep playing until I get back down to 6k then stop." I know its kinda hard in no limit because it can all go in one hand but seems like its better to have a stop point.
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Rekrul's future stories will involve him being in the Korean mafia through gambling
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2006 11:59 InToTheWannaB wrote:
I still want to know whats the deal with give players back some of there money when u lay a bad beat on them from the last story. Is that a commen thing, and is that like a real rule or just like a unwriten rule just to be nice? Also anyone picture these korean guys like smoking cigars and having scars and eye patchs on there face lol.
if you don't do it, no one has any hard feelings at all. it is 100% unexpected.
its common in this place atleast...especially to someone thats down a lot, it doesn't happen as much as i made it seem maybe, but 50$ give backs happen a lot, 500$ is rare. one time a rich ass gangsta mofo tried to give me 1,500$ back, which i refused 100%. i said "i would never give that so i'm not gunna take it" --- i think he respected that
and if someone gives you 50$ back, next time you win a pot vs them you better give them 50$ back atleast or you're never going to hear the end of it.
most of them smoke cigarettes and some smoke cigars
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
"EDIT: Another question, when do you walk away from the table? If your up like 12k why not say to yourself "Ok I'll keep playing until I get back down to 6k then stop." I know its kinda hard in no limit because it can all go in one hand but seems like its better to have a stop point."
me? i can walk away whenever i want. i'm a part of that game now fucking demanding that these old mofos drink whiskey with me...i'm not like the canadian from my first story. If i had to leave right afterw inning a 10k pot they would not be angry cuz they know i always come back the next day if they call me. but in general i give people 1 hour warning before i leave out of courtesy
and if by 'stop point' you're talking about for the money. why would i have a stop point if i feel i am better than everyone there? that makes no sense. time spent at the table = money in the long run. never going to quit just cuz i lost all my profit. though sometimes i do quit if i'm down a lot because it does effect my game
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but in general i give people 1 hour warning before i leave out of courtesy
hmmm, cool.
never went to a cassino but i would be so pissed if someone leave after a big pot
would be like 1x1 on starcraft without a revenge XD
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On February 09 2006 03:03 Rekrul wrote: He even took the liberty of telling one of the lesser attractive girls playing that she looks like when she was a kid she had downsyndrome and started recovering from it but just quite didn't make it all the way better.
wow you understand alot of korean. another intresting korea entry! keep em posting!
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more stories! this kind of stuff is interesting and fun to read
it also reminds me of rounders
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man these stories are fucking entertaining, and i've never even played poker haha.
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Korea (South)11598 Posts
Hey Rekrul, do you speak Korean with them, or do they speak English so you feel more at home?
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So this was a real story? You know what, i bet that guy wouldn't have paid you even if you did win, he'd pull some Korean Mafia on your ass. Maybe you were better off losing $$.
Side Note: What was you drinkin in Korea.. like.. what is their "cool drinks" over there?
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On February 09 2006 16:59 RuNei wrote:
So this was a real story? You know what, i bet that guy wouldn't have paid you even if you did win, he'd pull some Korean Mafia on your ass. Maybe you were better off losing $$.
Side Note: What was you drinkin in Korea.. like.. what is their "cool drinks" over there?
Did you even read the end of the story? They are cool with each other, he is a profession poker player, and he helps rek get into games. I dont think he would've screwed him over.
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^ probably right
i cant help but think that had rek would won they wouldnt be friends though
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sounds like u play poker in some fucking abandoned wherehouse in korea wtf !!!!!
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
he definitely would have paid and its not as ghetto as i make it sound haha
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good story omg rekrul you rock!! I love reading what about ur stories in korea.
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On February 09 2006 07:28 Orome wrote:
Hahaha great story, more plz.
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You make my imagination go wild reading these. What exactly does this place look like inside though? Is it like the place in Rounders?
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wow rek. you should write a book!
post more please, great stories
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United States5262 Posts
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On February 09 2006 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
all the above, its social, its fun, free beer, free food, etc etc...
when i first found these places i played 10+ hours a day...but that wasn't really healthy at all so i've cut back considerably and only play when they have 10/20 or higher big games now
Never been to a casino, but free beer and free food is not normal right?
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On February 09 2006 07:32 Sfydjklm wrote:
Since the first couple of paragraphs i realised "hes gotta be a hustler".
kekekkee how cool am i.
But you failed to realize that Rekrul is a hustler. University classes and anything where he can't bullshit is either too much work or above him. I go to his former university and these kids that dormed with him say it was a good thing he hustled his way to Korea and Mommy and Daddy kept him afloat because UC was about to boot him.
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On February 10 2006 12:41 TreY wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2006 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
all the above, its social, its fun, free beer, free food, etc etc...
when i first found these places i played 10+ hours a day...but that wasn't really healthy at all so i've cut back considerably and only play when they have 10/20 or higher big games now Never been to a casino, but free beer and free food is not normal right?
That's normal even in the states, alchohol takes higher limits, but you can even play 3/6 limit(lowest possible casino game) and get 30$ buffet comps. The point is to keep you happy because happy = spending money.
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MURICA15980 Posts
Rek, how much Korean do you know now? It sounds like you've learned a lot.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 10 2006 22:41 ChoboCop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2006 07:32 Sfydjklm wrote:
Since the first couple of paragraphs i realised "hes gotta be a hustler".
kekekkee how cool am i. But you failed to realize that Rekrul is a hustler. University classes and anything where he can't bullshit is either too much work or above him. I go to his former university and these kids that dormed with him say it was a good thing he hustled his way to Korea and Mommy and Daddy kept him afloat because UC was about to boot him.
hahahahahahaha
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