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nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
August 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#141
it would be silly to put e-sports in the olympics and i doubt it will ever happen

the best they could do is make some kind of e-olympics that wasn't related to the real olympics
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 01:05:51
August 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#142
On August 03 2012 10:03 naux wrote:
To be honest, I would love to see eSports grow as much as the next guy BUT the thing is League of Legends is the bigger name by far compared to Starcraft 2 so you would need the bigger game to SET the standard for ESPORTS. Even though people make a poll here on a SC2 Community website, what did most of you think the results would be? Put the poll on IGN or GAMESPOT and you will see league of legends would sweep SC2.

The thing is i want ESPORTS to grow just not STARCRAFT 2, thats what people have to learn about. League of Legends is the biggest game in the world right now, and it would open the gates for other games such as SC2 to enter. People have to stop fighting and arguing what game is better, and all get together and help each community grow as a whole because i feel like this time GAMING is at its peak.

Sorry ahead of time for bad grammar.

biased post is biased

everyones going to ahve there favourite game and fight tooth and nail for it, theres no way to really tell which game is bigger
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
August 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#143
Well I don't see how starcraft is any less physically demanding than shooting an air rifle on a tripod...
Maybe in 20-30 years this could be more serious, maybe never.
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
August 03 2012 01:06 GMT
#144
I think it is funny that most people call this "e-sports" (competitive play of video games) but laugh when it is offered up to be included in the Olympic Games (the premier tournament of games). We call ourselves cyber-athletes and have sport in the name (along with games), but we don't belong in the Olympics....I think we have a dilemma, change our names or show why we call ourselves athletes and call this a sport.

PS. I honestly doubt that this could be included in the Olympic Games, but i don't see why not.
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
August 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#145
On August 03 2012 10:06 Prplppleatr wrote:
I think it is funny that most people call this "e-sports" (competitive play of video games) but laugh when it is offered up to be included in the Olympic Games (the premier tournament of games). We call ourselves cyber-athletes and have sport in the name (along with games), but we don't belong in the Olympics....I think we have a dilemma, change our names or show why we call ourselves athletes and call this a sport.

PS. I honestly doubt that this could be included in the Olympic Games, but i don't see why not.


That's why I think there should be a separated Olympic event for e-sports, a Cyber Olympics or something like that.
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FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
August 03 2012 01:10 GMT
#146
On August 03 2012 09:41 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 08:59 kochanfe wrote:
SC2 takes vastly more skill at the top level than many Olympic sports? Why should it not be aloud to be among them?


Because it doesn't? Saying that SC2 "takes vastly more skill" is just an insult to Olympian athletes.


I don't even know how you manage to compair the two... they are so different.

I think people are looking too much at what the players do and not at how the game is played. Olympic sports (and sports in general) is about watching the players perform. With eSports you aren't watching the players, you're watching the game. Now I know tournaments show the players sitting in their booth, I guess you can watch the players, but that is not a valid argument because you aren't hardly ever watching the players physically play, you are watching the results of their actions on a screen in the form of a game, aka eSport.

Sports and the Olympics has a heavy emphasis on the physical actions of the player, both watching the results of those actions and the sheer beauty of their form. In eSports we aren't focussed on the gamer as much as we are on what he does in the game. The rift between the performer and the game is what separates eSports from sports. It's why eSports deserves it's own Olympic style games every 2-4 years, completely separate from the olympics.

Additionally, even if you disagree with what I just posted above, you must also consider that eSports isn't just one game, but a large collection of games. They rise and fall in popularity. Do you really think it will promote eSports well to put a game in the Olympics only to have it be played in 1 or 2 Olympic games before it falls out of popularity like all those other sports, such as Tug of war. I don't find that very beneficial.

With an actual eSports games, the money spent on eSports, stays in eSports; The money gained from viewers, benefits eSports.
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 03 2012 01:10 GMT
#147
On August 03 2012 10:08 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:06 Prplppleatr wrote:
I think it is funny that most people call this "e-sports" (competitive play of video games) but laugh when it is offered up to be included in the Olympic Games (the premier tournament of games). We call ourselves cyber-athletes and have sport in the name (along with games), but we don't belong in the Olympics....I think we have a dilemma, change our names or show why we call ourselves athletes and call this a sport.

PS. I honestly doubt that this could be included in the Olympic Games, but i don't see why not.


That's why I think there should be a separated Olympic event for e-sports, a Cyber Olympics or something like that.


and they will call it.... World Cyber Games!
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FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
August 03 2012 01:11 GMT
#148
This is incredibly premature, but not that impossible in our lifetime as some are suggesting... I mean some of these sports would've been scoffed at only 30-40 years ago.
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naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
August 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#149
On August 03 2012 10:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:03 naux wrote:
To be honest, I would love to see eSports grow as much as the next guy BUT the thing is League of Legends is the bigger name by far compared to Starcraft 2 so you would need the bigger game to SET the standard for ESPORTS. Even though people make a poll here on a SC2 Community website, what did most of you think the results would be? Put the poll on IGN or GAMESPOT and you will see league of legends would sweep SC2.

The thing is i want ESPORTS to grow just not STARCRAFT 2, thats what people have to learn about. League of Legends is the biggest game in the world right now, and it would open the gates for other games such as SC2 to enter. People have to stop fighting and arguing what game is better, and all get together and help each community grow as a whole because i feel like this time GAMING is at its peak.

Sorry ahead of time for bad grammar.

biased post is biased

everyones going to ahve there favourite game and fight tooth and nail for it, theres no way to really tell which game is bigger


People like you are really truly blind. How is it a biased post when i like STARCRAFT 2 more than i like League of Legends, you tell me? You can like Starcraft 2 but 5 other people would prefer League of Legends theres a big ratio comparison. Yes you can EASILY tell which game is better, which gets more VIEWERS? which one has more players actively playing it? which generates more income? Did you even read my post or just read the first 2 sentences?
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
August 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#150
On August 03 2012 10:06 Prplppleatr wrote:
I think it is funny that most people call this "e-sports" (competitive play of video games) but laugh when it is offered up to be included in the Olympic Games (the premier tournament of games). We call ourselves cyber-athletes and have sport in the name (along with games), but we don't belong in the Olympics....I think we have a dilemma, change our names or show why we call ourselves athletes and call this a sport.

PS. I honestly doubt that this could be included in the Olympic Games, but i don't see why not.


There's something rather unique about traditional Olympic sports that games simply cannot replicate. There's a genuine, irreplaceable thrill in watching an underdog speed skater overtake his opponents at the last second, or holding one's breath as a pole jumper just barely scrapes over the bar. We're not questioning whether or not video games are "physical" enough to be sports; but... I dunno, they're simply not in the same "style," and I (and many other posters here) believe it should be left that way.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 01:16:22
August 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#151
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#152
i think Starcraft takes more skill then some olympic sports like weight lifting but starcraft pros certainly dont put in any more (or for some pros less) dedication and hard work to get to the top then olympic gold medalists
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#153
Not sure about this. I still that SC2 is a legimate competitive activity, but I would rather not see Olympics filled with eSports. I also think bullshit events like dressage should be cut from the Olympics.

I know that there is a physical aspect to SC2, but I want to see Olympics as the competition where athletes push the boundaries of the human body, in speed, or strength, or agility or accuracy. For example, watching swimmers or runners give it their all to finish a race, or seeing a diver contort their body as they dive from the hi-dive, as compared to a guy sitting at a computer.

I love watching pro SC2, but I don't think it belongs in the Olympics.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#154
Video games do not belong in the olympics.
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Oblivion753
Profile Joined May 2011
United States73 Posts
August 03 2012 01:18 GMT
#155
On August 03 2012 10:13 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:05 Forikorder wrote:
On August 03 2012 10:03 naux wrote:
To be honest, I would love to see eSports grow as much as the next guy BUT the thing is League of Legends is the bigger name by far compared to Starcraft 2 so you would need the bigger game to SET the standard for ESPORTS. Even though people make a poll here on a SC2 Community website, what did most of you think the results would be? Put the poll on IGN or GAMESPOT and you will see league of legends would sweep SC2.

The thing is i want ESPORTS to grow just not STARCRAFT 2, thats what people have to learn about. League of Legends is the biggest game in the world right now, and it would open the gates for other games such as SC2 to enter. People have to stop fighting and arguing what game is better, and all get together and help each community grow as a whole because i feel like this time GAMING is at its peak.

Sorry ahead of time for bad grammar.

biased post is biased

everyones going to ahve there favourite game and fight tooth and nail for it, theres no way to really tell which game is bigger


People like you are really truly blind. How is it a biased post when i like STARCRAFT 2 more than i like League of Legends, you tell me? You can like Starcraft 2 but 5 other people would prefer League of Legends theres a big ratio comparison. Yes you can EASILY tell which game is better, which gets more VIEWERS? which one has more players actively playing it? which generates more income? Did you even read my post or just read the first 2 sentences?

Just because something is more popular does not always mean it is better.......

On Topic: I think most young adults don't even tune into the Olympics. I would be very interested in seeing some data showing the viewership of young people across the globe and in the U.S. The reason i point out the U.S. in particular is because we all know our best athletes do not go to the Olympics. People like Michael Jordan and Barry Sanders knew that they could make a fortune more by playing in the NBA and NFL.
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire
Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
August 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#156
I'm going to be pissed if sc2 gets into the olympics when my favorite sport, Squash, isnt in the olympics haha
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#157
On August 03 2012 10:13 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:05 Forikorder wrote:
On August 03 2012 10:03 naux wrote:
To be honest, I would love to see eSports grow as much as the next guy BUT the thing is League of Legends is the bigger name by far compared to Starcraft 2 so you would need the bigger game to SET the standard for ESPORTS. Even though people make a poll here on a SC2 Community website, what did most of you think the results would be? Put the poll on IGN or GAMESPOT and you will see league of legends would sweep SC2.

The thing is i want ESPORTS to grow just not STARCRAFT 2, thats what people have to learn about. League of Legends is the biggest game in the world right now, and it would open the gates for other games such as SC2 to enter. People have to stop fighting and arguing what game is better, and all get together and help each community grow as a whole because i feel like this time GAMING is at its peak.

Sorry ahead of time for bad grammar.

biased post is biased

everyones going to ahve there favourite game and fight tooth and nail for it, theres no way to really tell which game is bigger


People like you are really truly blind. How is it a biased post when i like STARCRAFT 2 more than i like League of Legends, you tell me? You can like Starcraft 2 but 5 other people would prefer League of Legends theres a big ratio comparison. Yes you can EASILY tell which game is better, which gets more VIEWERS? which one has more players actively playing it? which generates more income? Did you even read my post or just read the first 2 sentences?

how can you say with a straight face that LoL is 5 times more popular then SC2? how can you possibly say that?

like it or not LoL is a free game so obviously its going to have more players but that doesnt mean more people prefer it over SC2
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 01:25:44
August 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#158
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills?sort=total_rank#grid

You know where Starcraft would be on this list?


Oh right, dead last.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 03 2012 01:26 GMT
#159
On August 03 2012 10:25 xrapture wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills?sort=total_rank#grid

You know where Starcraft would be on this list?


Oh right, dead last.

so what that chart would be completely biased against Star2 you cant quantify skill so easily
Premier
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States503 Posts
August 03 2012 01:26 GMT
#160
On August 03 2012 10:18 Oblivion753 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:13 naux wrote:
On August 03 2012 10:05 Forikorder wrote:
On August 03 2012 10:03 naux wrote:
To be honest, I would love to see eSports grow as much as the next guy BUT the thing is League of Legends is the bigger name by far compared to Starcraft 2 so you would need the bigger game to SET the standard for ESPORTS. Even though people make a poll here on a SC2 Community website, what did most of you think the results would be? Put the poll on IGN or GAMESPOT and you will see league of legends would sweep SC2.

The thing is i want ESPORTS to grow just not STARCRAFT 2, thats what people have to learn about. League of Legends is the biggest game in the world right now, and it would open the gates for other games such as SC2 to enter. People have to stop fighting and arguing what game is better, and all get together and help each community grow as a whole because i feel like this time GAMING is at its peak.

Sorry ahead of time for bad grammar.

biased post is biased

everyones going to ahve there favourite game and fight tooth and nail for it, theres no way to really tell which game is bigger


People like you are really truly blind. How is it a biased post when i like STARCRAFT 2 more than i like League of Legends, you tell me? You can like Starcraft 2 but 5 other people would prefer League of Legends theres a big ratio comparison. Yes you can EASILY tell which game is better, which gets more VIEWERS? which one has more players actively playing it? which generates more income? Did you even read my post or just read the first 2 sentences?

Just because something is more popular does not always mean it is better.......

On Topic: I think most young adults don't even tune into the Olympics. I would be very interested in seeing some data showing the viewership of young people across the globe and in the U.S. The reason i point out the U.S. in particular is because we all know our best athletes do not go to the Olympics. People like Michael Jordan and Barry Sanders knew that they could make a fortune more by playing in the NBA and NFL.



Literally everyone watches the olympics, all of my friends have been glued to the screen watching Phelps and Lochte and everyone. Also all our best athletes participate, I mean, Michael Jordan lead the 1992 Olympic Dream Team, and now Kevin Durant, Lebron, Melo and so many more are participating, in addition to phelps, todd rodgers/phil daulhauser, and pretty much the best athletes from each respective sport. The NBA isnt going on in the summer, and American football isnt in the olympics, so they cant even participate... Do some research before you make random claims.

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