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On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong
You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy.
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On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy.
If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula.
Same with
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - Nuclear war
Nuclear war - Wrong.
Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 28 2012 14:42 Rassy wrote:
They got banned because they are against the gay mariage?
Realy?
Just saw about this on cnn, and i realy cant believe it.
This is wrong in so manny ways, i dont even know where to start.
i am not against equal rights for gays in anny way btw
Though i am (strongly) against the right of gay couples to adopt children or "get" children , as i believe children are the future of our society and a mixed couple is alot more balanced and in general better for a child.
Do you know how many orphans there are around the world, with no parents to look after them? No food, no clothes, no education, mental and physical abuse... And you think it would be bad if a loving gay or lesbian couple adopted them instead because it would give them the wrong values? That is such bs i cant stand it.
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On July 29 2012 18:42 GT3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy. If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula. Same with Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong Doing something wrong - Nuclear war Nuclear war - Wrong. Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period.
Who died and made you God of Whats Right Or Wrong? In your bigoted dark age mind yes it is wrong, but not to most modern people
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On July 29 2012 18:42 GT3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy. If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula. Same with Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong Doing something wrong - Nuclear war Nuclear war - Wrong. Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period.
Overpopulation causes lack of food - We must be doing something wrong.
Doing something Wrong - Having kids.
Heterosexuality - Wrong.
You're "logical" scenario depicts a world in which everyone is gay.. Which is completely false. Why are you trying to attribute your bigoted opinions to logic, you quite clearly just hate dicks in bums.
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On July 29 2012 18:42 GT3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy. If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula. Same with Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong Doing something wrong - Nuclear war Nuclear war - Wrong. Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period.
You are confusing two different meanings of the word wrong. One is right and wrong in the moral sense, the other is not. Also the logic that if everyone does a thing the human race goes extinct, then it must be morally wrong, is ridiculous. Do you think not-fucking is wrong?
There is no actual danger of the human race going extinct due to homosexuality. Gay marriage will not decrease the number of hetero unions. Only a small portion of humans turn out gay, if you deny them gay marriage they will not turn straight. I don't know why I have to point this out to you.
Your ''logical formula'' is infantile. As is your reasoning. The fact that you started your bizarre thoughts with ''I don't have to give reasons for why, it just IS'', shows just how useless your contribution is.
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And so the cavemen crawl out of their caves to bring forth their slippery-slope arguments and prove their stone-age way of thinking in the debate of same sex marriage...
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On July 29 2012 19:05 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 18:42 GT3 wrote:On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy. If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula. Same with Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong Doing something wrong - Nuclear war Nuclear war - Wrong. Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period. You are confusing two different meanings of the word wrong. One is right and wrong in the moral sense, the other is not. Also the logic that if everyone does a thing the human race goes extinct, then it must be morally wrong, is ridiculous. Do you think not-fucking is wrong? There is no actual danger of the human race going extinct due to homosexuality. Gay marriage will not decrease the number of hetero unions. Only a small portion of humans turn out gay, if you deny them gay marriage they will not turn straight. I don't know why I have to point this out to you. Your ''logical formula'' is infantile. As is your reasoning. The fact that you started your bizarre thoughts with ''I don't have to give reasons for why, it just IS'', shows just how useless your contribution is.
This just in: being celibate is as wrong as being homosexual. amirite? better tell that to any celibate monks you see.
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On July 29 2012 23:31 thedz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 19:05 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:42 GT3 wrote:On July 29 2012 18:38 Crushinator wrote:On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong You actually use two different meanings of the word wrong in your bizarre logical scheme, rendering it completely invalid, you big dummy. If you are doing something wrong, isn't the act wrong? And the act being homosexuality therefore it being wrong. Don't pretend to be a wiseguy with me, there's nothing wrong in my logical formula. Same with Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong Doing something wrong - Nuclear war Nuclear war - Wrong. Fully functional formula, that you poke at my formula is a sign that you don't have any counter-arguments. Homosexuality IS wrong period. You are confusing two different meanings of the word wrong. One is right and wrong in the moral sense, the other is not. Also the logic that if everyone does a thing the human race goes extinct, then it must be morally wrong, is ridiculous. Do you think not-fucking is wrong? There is no actual danger of the human race going extinct due to homosexuality. Gay marriage will not decrease the number of hetero unions. Only a small portion of humans turn out gay, if you deny them gay marriage they will not turn straight. I don't know why I have to point this out to you. Your ''logical formula'' is infantile. As is your reasoning. The fact that you started your bizarre thoughts with ''I don't have to give reasons for why, it just IS'', shows just how useless your contribution is. This just in: being celibate is as wrong as being homosexual. amirite? better tell that to any celibate monks you see.
Catholic priesthood - wrong.
Being infertile - wrong.
Holy shit we need to set up eugenics programs again.
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On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong
This is falacious reasoning. If the whole world were men, then we would go extinct, but that does not mean that it is wrong to be a man. The same is true for women.
Furthermore we could simplify your reasoning to say that it is wrong to not have children since if we all chose to not have children the world would go extinct.
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On July 29 2012 18:31 GT3 wrote:
I don't need to give reason WHY it is wrong, it just simply is, and if you don't think it is wrong you're fooling yourself. I see it this way, if being a homosexual is good and dandy and there's no problems with it, how come if the whole world population was homosexual, humans would die out.
Human going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - homosexuality
Homosexuality - wrong
Males having a vasectomy can't have kids, right? If the whole world had vasectomies, the human race would go extinct.
Humans going extinct - we must be doing something wrong
Doing something wrong - vasectomies
Vasectomies - Wrong
See, here's the thing. You can't just take something and extrapolate it out into human extinction and call it wrong. That's why your "logic" is useless. Your extrapolation is absurd.
Also, your last two lines are a tautology.
I think I just fed a troll.
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People's uneducated opinions are not always trolls, which is worrisome.
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The way I see it is that the religious opposition is not against gay marriage necessarily because they hate gays, but because they want to preserve the sanctity of marriage. This is the exact same reason why many of them are against things such as divorce. I'm not saying that marriage is this holy bond, because in this modern world it isn't.
I do however think that since it is a religious thing that no church should be forced to marry two people. Civil unions are a thing so a gay couple does not have fewer rights than a straight couple, its just a different term. Thats why I think this whole idea of gays being second class citizens because they can't marry is pretty baseless. Basically in the end you argue over symantics and nobody is preventing you from having a wedding, it will just be called a civil union at the end of the day.
I don't think all of a sudden because gay marriage is legal kids in school will be treated better, because in school kids will find any imaginable reason to pick on you. Its not that the difference is what gets you picked on, but rather your weakness to oppose it.
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On July 30 2012 01:44 Blurry wrote:
The way I see it is that the religious opposition is not against gay marriage necessarily because they hate gays, but because they want to preserve the sanctity of marriage. This is the exact same reason why many of them are against things such as divorce. I'm not saying that marriage is this holy bond, because in this modern world it isn't.
I do however think that since it is a religious thing that no church should be forced to marry two people. Civil unions are a thing so a gay couple does not have fewer rights than a straight couple, its just a different term. Thats why I think this whole idea of gays being second class citizens because they can't marry is pretty baseless. Basically in the end you argue over symantics and nobody is preventing you from having a wedding, it will just be called a civil union at the end of the day.
I don't think all of a sudden because gay marriage is legal kids in school will be treated better, because in school kids will find any imaginable reason to pick on you. Its not that the difference is what gets you picked on, but rather your weakness to oppose it.
No, it, is, NOT.
Marriage is NOT a religious deal. Marriage has predated a lot of religions. Thats the WHOLE fucking reason this is just disgusting. Religious people claiming they want to protect something, meanwhile it was never theres to begin with.
I have no idea what your last statement even means, no duh is all I could really say to that. Gay marriage will help people who LOVE eachother actually solidify that bond.
Freedom to hate, but no freedom to love. Absolutely disgusting behavior by the majority of people against gay marriage. In 40-50+ years everyone that was against gay marriage will be shamed and laughed at. They'll be in the same groups that wanted to deny groups of people their rights based on their fucking skin color.
Also, for your RIDICULOUS "its just a different term!" statement, you too should be ashamed.
"Colored" people got separate bathrooms, they were still bathrooms, they were just called something different. (See how this is not an argument?)
It's not equal if its different, you need to get that in your head. Calling it something else is merely classifying them as something else and its horrible.
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Isn't it for governments to decide it they accept minorities or not? I mean if people elect government, they want their opinion and rights represented. Pedophiles are minority too, but why are they not accepted? I mean don't be sad if you are gay and live in some old school catholic country, time should come when they get modern and allow you to have a place in society.
They should make possibility for minorities to move around the world more free. Lets just say some gay guy lives in countryX where he is not liked because of his nature, he could contact countryY where it is widely accepted and ask for it to allow him to stay.
Why minorities stay in north Europe that have quite old catholic traditions and not move to England or Germany, where all minorities are more accepted instead of trying to fight the wall and go against local governments?
If city is pagan and food chain is catholic, and pagans hate catholics there - why don't catholic food chain move out of pagan city then? If pagan people elected pagan government and that government bans catholics, then its common sense that catholics should find another place to stay and thats fine.
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On July 30 2012 02:09 M4nkind wrote:
Isn't it for governments to decide it they accept minorities or not? I mean if people elect government, they want their opinion and rights represented. Pedophiles are minority too, but why are they not accepted? I mean don't be sad if you are gay and live in some old school catholic country, time should come when they get modern and allow you to have a place in society.
They should make possibility for minorities to move around the world more free. Lets just say some gay guy lives in countryX where he is not liked because of his nature, he could contact countryY where it is widely accepted and ask for it to allow him to stay.
Why minorities stay in north Europe that have quite old catholic traditions and not move to England or Germany, where all minorities are more accepted instead of trying to fight the wall and go against local governments?
If city is pagan and food chain is catholic, and pagans hate catholics there - why don't catholic food chain move out of pagan city then? If pagan people elected pagan government and that government bans catholics, then its common sense that catholics should find another place to stay and thats fine.
Yeah, your idea is horrible. Lets say fuck tolerance! And just move everyone over to x land or y land so everyone can be segregated even more!
Yeah no.
Humanity should be taking steps forwards and if anyone listened to your incredibly insane idea we'd be taking a billion steps backwards.
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On July 30 2012 02:09 M4nkind wrote:
Isn't it for governments to decide it they accept minorities or not? I mean if people elect government, they want their opinion and rights represented. Pedophiles are minority too, but why are they not accepted? I mean don't be sad if you are gay and live in some old school catholic country, time should come when they get modern and allow you to have a place in society.
Pedophiles actually hurt people, that's why they are not accepted.
They should make possibility for minorities to move around the world more free. Lets just say some gay guy lives in countryX where he is not liked because of his nature, he could contact countryY where it is widely accepted and ask for it to allow him to stay.
Everyone in the US is allowed to fly to another country if they want. It's not convenient because getting a citizenship can be extremely hard, and the conditions may not be better.
Not much would get done if everyone thought like you, where if there's at the slightest problem you try to get out of the country. Social change happens because people take a stand and fight for good.
Why minorities stay in north Europe that have quite old catholic traditions and not move to England or Germany, where all minorities are more accepted instead of trying to fight the wall and go against local governments?
Because it's a battle that can be won.
If city is pagan and food chain is catholic, and pagans hate catholics there - why don't catholic food chain move out of pagan city then? If pagan people elected pagan government and that government bans catholics, then its common sense that catholics should find another place to stay and thats fine.
That's not common sense. That's bending over and taking it.
Women have rights in many countries today because they aren't as weak as you.
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You can find threads discussing these sort of issues way before now. So yes, you are the only one that sees the correlation.
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sure, but there are a lot of them lately
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