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On November 06 2012 03:49 ThreeAcross wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:39 farvacola wrote:On November 06 2012 03:32 ThreeAcross wrote:On November 06 2012 03:22 farvacola wrote:On November 06 2012 03:20 ThreeAcross wrote:On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source You are right. I only see poor black people in line waiting to vote in Florida. While I think it's pretty ridiculous what Florida is doing, can we stop this crappy rhetoric? No, we can't. Not while the Florida governor changes voting rules that affect almost exclusively low income black voters who traditionally early voted on Sundays via church transportation. That people are so readily offended by rhetoric they deem "crappy" while fellow Americans are outright disenfranchised is disgusting. It is disgusting to think that people only care about what happens to their side. I said what Florida is doing is ridiculous, but this isn't a sign on the door that says only people who aren't low income blacks can vote. I don't agree with the reduction in early voting days, but this law was passed in 2011. There was still last Sunday for early voting for those people who got rides from church. I'm sick of this partisan hackerie that has taken over or nation. Why must something always be turned into an us versus them moment. Why can't we agree that this is a bad decision for the people of Florida instead of saying this is bad for the low income black people of Florida. Get over this craziness. Hey now, you are the one projecting the facade of an "us vs them" mentality over top my bit of punditry. I am well aware of many Republicans sharing Democratic outrage at the voting debacle in Florida and brazen stupidity of Ohio SoS John Husted; more generally, Florida Gov. Rick Scott is a giant piece of shit with large numbers of detractors on both sides. If you want to jump aboard the "them" bus and share Gov. Scott's douche burden, go right on ahead. But just realize for a moment that if your standard for "proof" requires that someone write up a sign that explicitly says "No poor black voters", you might be going about this the wrong way. I don't think you get it. You said this only effects low income blacks. I called you out on this by saying we should care about everyone's vote and now I'm the one projecting /us versus them/? Take a step back and reanalyze your position.
Nah, sorry, you can't make things up as though I said them and then argue against that, not in intellectual honesty. I never said this only effects low income blacks, I merely framed my original quip using a group that bears the bulk of the burden of these silly voting law changes and concordant failures in voting location staffing. If this is confusing for you, allow me to rephrase. The stupid changes in early voting rules and negligent staffing of early voting locations is disenfranchising voters in Florida; one of if not the main groups this effects are those most likely to use early voting locations, which in Florida, are typically black and low income voters.
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On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance.
It's much better than what we have now. As if the people who don't bother to vote know any less than a huge number of the people who do vote. I absolutely wish that we could cut out the bullshit, the lying, the political spin nonsense, the popularity contest garbage, and all the superficial fluff and simply provide voters with the facts about each candidate uninfluenced by the parties. Unfortunately we'll never get anything like that.
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On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance.
People are very informed about the issues that affect them. They may appear ignorant to you because they care about different things than you. And how do you decide what a "quality" vote is? I hear a lot of people propose IQ tests but what's the minimal IQ required to cast an "informed" vote? I think you'd be shocked to discover it's quite low. You really don't need to be that smart to be informed. Political issues largely boil down to opinion and self interest for voters so it's difficult to delineate them as "right" or "wrong" and we say people are informed or smart because they usually get things right, but that just doesn't work in politics.
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On November 06 2012 03:55 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance. In this case the level of ignorance of voters is largely self assessed. I have doubts in the ability of an idiot to rate his idiocy.
Is this the sort of behavior befifting of a mod? To call a poster an 'idiot' in 2 or 3 separate posts? Why not just ban me if you can't handle having another party come in and challenge your narrow worldview.
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On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Show nested quote + Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source
That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line
![[image loading]](http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_dZmv5mzEJ1qBk7sEl8avg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzgzO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjE0O2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zODM7cT04NTt3PTYxNA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Voting_Is_Already_a_Mess-5e1ecf92c8e8bdbfef095110655268f8)
Point being, quite trying to pretend like its Florida trying to fuck black people.
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On November 06 2012 04:01 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:55 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance. In this case the level of ignorance of voters is largely self assessed. I have doubts in the ability of an idiot to rate his idiocy. Is this the sort of behavior befifting of a mod? To call a poster an 'idiot' in 2 or 3 separate posts? Why not just ban me if you can't handle having another party come in and challenge your narrow worldview.
He wasn't calling you an idiot in that post. He was merely pointing out the Dunning-Kruger effect. People who are idiots are patently bad at knowing they're idiots. So any system designed to generate "quality" votes would really just be excluding some idiots and including others.
Now, I am not a mod. I will call you an idiot for becoming so defensive that you misread the post.
I will also cut you some slack though. Kwark is...rough around the edges but he usually makes very intelligent posts. Even if you disagree with him you should probably read them seriously.
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On November 06 2012 04:01 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line Point being, quite trying to pretend like its Florida trying to fuck black people.
I'm pretty sure the mods will just dismiss you as an 'idiot' because this post doesn't fit their political bent.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 06 2012 04:01 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:55 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance. In this case the level of ignorance of voters is largely self assessed. I have doubts in the ability of an idiot to rate his idiocy. Is this the sort of behavior befifting of a mod? To call a poster an 'idiot' in 2 or 3 separate posts? Why not just ban me if you can't handle having another party come in and challenge your narrow worldview.
I'm reasonably sure my post didn't explicitly call you an idiot. If, however, you choose to project that interpretation onto it then that's your business. All I did was point out that there is no way of objectively measuring the quality of a voter, people who may have very questionable reasoning abilities might not notice that their opinions are retarded.
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On November 06 2012 03:56 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:49 ThreeAcross wrote:On November 06 2012 03:39 farvacola wrote:On November 06 2012 03:32 ThreeAcross wrote:On November 06 2012 03:22 farvacola wrote:On November 06 2012 03:20 ThreeAcross wrote:On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source You are right. I only see poor black people in line waiting to vote in Florida. While I think it's pretty ridiculous what Florida is doing, can we stop this crappy rhetoric? No, we can't. Not while the Florida governor changes voting rules that affect almost exclusively low income black voters who traditionally early voted on Sundays via church transportation. That people are so readily offended by rhetoric they deem "crappy" while fellow Americans are outright disenfranchised is disgusting. It is disgusting to think that people only care about what happens to their side. I said what Florida is doing is ridiculous, but this isn't a sign on the door that says only people who aren't low income blacks can vote. I don't agree with the reduction in early voting days, but this law was passed in 2011. There was still last Sunday for early voting for those people who got rides from church. I'm sick of this partisan hackerie that has taken over or nation. Why must something always be turned into an us versus them moment. Why can't we agree that this is a bad decision for the people of Florida instead of saying this is bad for the low income black people of Florida. Get over this craziness. Hey now, you are the one projecting the facade of an "us vs them" mentality over top my bit of punditry. I am well aware of many Republicans sharing Democratic outrage at the voting debacle in Florida and brazen stupidity of Ohio SoS John Husted; more generally, Florida Gov. Rick Scott is a giant piece of shit with large numbers of detractors on both sides. If you want to jump aboard the "them" bus and share Gov. Scott's douche burden, go right on ahead. But just realize for a moment that if your standard for "proof" requires that someone write up a sign that explicitly says "No poor black voters", you might be going about this the wrong way. I don't think you get it. You said this only effects low income blacks. I called you out on this by saying we should care about everyone's vote and now I'm the one projecting /us versus them/? Take a step back and reanalyze your position. Nah, sorry, you can't make things up as though I said them and then argue against that, not in intellectual honesty. I never said this only effects low income blacks, I merely framed my original quip using a group that bears the bulk of the burden of these silly voting law changes and concordant failures in voting location staffing. If this is confusing for you, allow me to rephrase. The stupid changes in early voting rules and negligent staffing of early voting locations is disenfranchising voters in Florida; one of if not the main groups this effects are those most likely to use early voting locations, which in Florida, are typically black and low income voters.
Who said this affected poor black floridians? Was it you or me?
I called you out on limiting the effects of this law on just poor black floridians. It doesn't. Does it have a bigger impact? Probably, I haven't gone into too much detail about it. Quit limiting consequences to certain populations but rather the whole populace and you might find that we could agree on a lot of things.
Btw, I'm not a fan of the TL iPhone app. I can't get it to work landscape!
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On November 06 2012 04:01 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line + Show Spoiler +
The fact that you think some random photo of a Florida voter line is proof of anything notwithstanding, I've already clarified my position; all disenfranchisement is bad.
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On November 06 2012 04:01 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:55 KwarK wrote:On November 06 2012 03:51 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:43 MVega wrote:
So glad the election will be over soon. This is the first time in my life that I'm not voting.
We really need a voting system like Australia has where voting is mandatory and if you don't vote there is some sort of fine. At least that's how I remember Australian voting being, it's been quite awhile. I'd gladly pay the fine for not voting this election, I think as long as the money from that fine went into helping any one of my countrymen it would be worth a lot more than my vote.
Edit: I'll just add this ... The candidates running for president don't take this as seriously as some of the voters do. If either candidate believed that the other guy was as evil/horrible/whatever as all the attack ads and spin claimed, if either candidate believed that the other candidate was going to run the country into the ground ... They wouldn't have been joking and laughing and chummy together after the debates. Since they were that either means they both, while wanting the job, think that the other guy is capable OR they're both equally bad. That's a terrible idea. We should be valuing quality votes--people who bothered to give a damn about the candidates and the issues. As it is, we have this culture where we encourage people to vote regardless of their level of ignorance. In this case the level of ignorance of voters is largely self assessed. I have doubts in the ability of an idiot to rate his idiocy. Is this the sort of behavior befifting of a mod? To call a poster an 'idiot' in 2 or 3 separate posts? Why not just ban me if you can't handle having another party come in and challenge your narrow worldview.
Kinda how it works on TL but I believe he was referring to the average person, or just an idiot following that ideology. How is said person going to know their level of ignorance? Do you know everyone's level of ignorance or do you know of such a system to really evaluate it?
Impossible system.
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On November 06 2012 04:01 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line Point being, quite trying to pretend like its Florida trying to fuck black people.
Hey look someone else agrees with me! Woo
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On November 06 2012 03:41 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:40 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:38 Risen wrote:On November 06 2012 03:37 jdsowa wrote:
I have no issue with a date being wrong in Spanish. If you can't speak English, you shouldn't be voting in the US election. If I lived in a foreign country and wasn't fluent, I sure as hell wouldn't pretend that I had any authority to influence the direction of that country.
Most states have absentee voting and early voting. Florida is one of them. You don't need any excuse to write in an absentee ballot. All you need is a stamp and an envelope. States were taking absentee ballots MONTHS AGO.
The funny thing here is that paranoid liberals think evil racists are trying to steal the election from them by disenfranchising minority voters. But what's really racist is the insinuation that there are poor blacks that are so utterly stupid and incompetent that they can't possibly figure out what date to vote on, where to vote, where to get the forms, who's running, etc. That is racism. There is no official language in the United States. Every citizen deserves the right to vote. Edit: Pottymouth language. Of course not. And nobody is physically preventing them from going to the polls. But ask yourself--isn't it utterly ridiculous that somebody who hasn't bothered to learn to speak the language should be voting in the election? Speak what language? WE HAVE NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. You could speak turkadakadurk and I'd still say you should be able to vote.
I actually googled turkadakadurk to see if it was an actual language. Hilariously, your post was the one google result.
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Point being, quite trying to pretend like its Florida trying to fuck black people.
Lol you cant be serious about this.
The florida change was obviously done to hurt low income (black) DEMOCRATIC voters and give the republicans a better change.
Stop arguing otherwise, if you dont want to be biased.
And dont worry, just admit it and noone will even care. it would be forgotten in 2-3 pages.
This arguing against the plain obvious is just silly
Still like confirmation if possible, it would be apreciated.
Does the usa realy have no official language and are you allowed to make legal documents in anny language you like?
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On November 06 2012 04:08 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:41 Risen wrote:On November 06 2012 03:40 jdsowa wrote:On November 06 2012 03:38 Risen wrote:On November 06 2012 03:37 jdsowa wrote:
I have no issue with a date being wrong in Spanish. If you can't speak English, you shouldn't be voting in the US election. If I lived in a foreign country and wasn't fluent, I sure as hell wouldn't pretend that I had any authority to influence the direction of that country.
Most states have absentee voting and early voting. Florida is one of them. You don't need any excuse to write in an absentee ballot. All you need is a stamp and an envelope. States were taking absentee ballots MONTHS AGO.
The funny thing here is that paranoid liberals think evil racists are trying to steal the election from them by disenfranchising minority voters. But what's really racist is the insinuation that there are poor blacks that are so utterly stupid and incompetent that they can't possibly figure out what date to vote on, where to vote, where to get the forms, who's running, etc. That is racism. There is no official language in the United States. Every citizen deserves the right to vote. Edit: Pottymouth language. Of course not. And nobody is physically preventing them from going to the polls. But ask yourself--isn't it utterly ridiculous that somebody who hasn't bothered to learn to speak the language should be voting in the election? Speak what language? WE HAVE NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. You could speak turkadakadurk and I'd still say you should be able to vote. I actually googled turkadakadurk to see if it was an actual language. Hilariously, your post was the one google result.
man... google's gotten a lot more powerful to be able to process that so quickly, did it too hahahaha.
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On November 06 2012 04:07 ThreeAcross wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 04:01 kmillz wrote:On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line Point being, quite trying to pretend like its Florida trying to fuck black people. Hey look someone else agrees with me! Woo
Is it at this point one of us have to explain that poor working class people come in all colors, shapes and sizes?
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On November 06 2012 03:40 jdsowa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 03:38 Risen wrote:On November 06 2012 03:37 jdsowa wrote:
I have no issue with a date being wrong in Spanish. If you can't speak English, you shouldn't be voting in the US election. If I lived in a foreign country and wasn't fluent, I sure as hell wouldn't pretend that I had any authority to influence the direction of that country.
Most states have absentee voting and early voting. Florida is one of them. You don't need any excuse to write in an absentee ballot. All you need is a stamp and an envelope. States were taking absentee ballots MONTHS AGO.
The funny thing here is that paranoid liberals think evil racists are trying to steal the election from them by disenfranchising minority voters. But what's really racist is the insinuation that there are poor blacks that are so utterly stupid and incompetent that they can't possibly figure out what date to vote on, where to vote, where to get the forms, who's running, etc. That is racism. There is no official language in the United States. Every citizen deserves the right to vote. Edit: Pottymouth language. Of course not. And nobody is physically preventing them from going to the polls. But ask yourself--isn't it utterly ridiculous that somebody who hasn't bothered to learn to speak the language should be voting in the election?
seriously? i dont even know how to respond to this bullshit
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On November 06 2012 03:35 Risen wrote:KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack? OBAMA: Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other. He didn't know what it was, so he didn't know what to call it. I'm confused as to what you're trying to say? Edit: Why did I even ask you. It's clear you're once again just trying to be misleading. Did you think people wouldn't click the link?
Because he said in the debate that he called it a terrorist attack when it happened. That's just not true.
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So... my college had a bit of an election thing going on today.
College Republican table:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Nwk8v.jpg)
College Democrat table:
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On November 06 2012 04:06 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 04:01 kmillz wrote:On November 06 2012 03:14 farvacola wrote:Considering what is going down in Florida with understaffed early voting locations, provisional ballot issues, and shortened voting windows, this story struck me as simply incredible. We can manage to accept votes from astronauts but not poor black Floridians...... Call it the ultimate absentee ballot. NASA astronauts aboard the International Space Station have the option of voting in tomorrow's (Nov. 6) presidential election from orbit, hundreds of miles above their nearest polling location.
Astronauts residing on the orbiting lab receive a digital version of their ballot, which is beamed up by Mission Control at the agency's Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston. Filled-out ballots find their way back down to Earth along the same path.
"They send it back to Mission Control," said NASA spokesman Jay Bolden of JSC. "It's a secure ballot that is then sent directly to the voting authorities."
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed by Texas legislators (nearly all NASA astronauts live in or around Houston). It was first used that same year by David Wolf, who happened to be aboard Russia's Mir space station at the time. Source That's weird, I don't see one black person in this photo of Florida voters waiting in line + Show Spoiler + The fact that you think some random photo of a Florida voter line is proof of anything notwithstanding, I've already clarified my position; all disenfranchisement is bad.
You are making my point. You only care about one demographic. You are disenfranchised about all other demographics. Care about everyone's vote.
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