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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On May 19 2018 00:42 TRAP[yoo] wrote: i guess its time to get rid of all fire alarms? No dude, you just get a (heavily armed) fireman in each school/public building that constantly checks everyone for fire alarm pulling capabilities/flammable material and shoots them if necessary. For freedom.+ Show Spoiler + or if they're black User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9771 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
This is what 20 years of doing nothing gets us. Kids who tell us that it is only matter of time before someone tries kill them while they go to school. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Have some basic integrity and decency as both a journalist and a human being and leave victims alone. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 19 2018 02:11 r.Evo wrote: As much as I agree with the idea that changes should be made in this regard and as much as I believe the US could learn something from the rest of the western world in this regard: I consider the above interview happening in the first place completely fucked up. Have some basic integrity and decency as both a journalist and a human being and leave victims alone. Come on it just happened. Let them go home and spend the day/night with their families. Interview cops and government officials. | ||
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Slydie
1930 Posts
en.wikipedia.org If this holds true, the most efficient method to make these horrible events happen again is to make them extremely visible in the media. Some shooters have even became media "heroes" as their videos have gone viral. I am all for gun control and spending resources on finding potential shooters before they act, but this problem requires a long battle on many fronts! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On May 19 2018 02:51 Plansix wrote: I am waiting for the sad story about how there were clear signs that the shooter was going to do what he did, but the school and law enforcement lacked the tools and legal authority to take action to prevent it. There are apparently rumors of posts he made on 4chan leading up to today that said he would be doing this. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On one hand “yay...” fewer deaths of service members. On the other hand, this is completely unacceptable. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12392 Posts
On May 19 2018 02:48 Slydie wrote: I read an article in Norwegian about how the school shooters in the states inspire each other, similar to how "The sorrows of young Werther" by Goethe inspired young men unhappily in love. en.wikipedia.org If this holds true, the most efficient method to make these horrible events happen again is to make them extremely visible in the media. Some shooters have even became media "heroes" as their videos have gone viral. I am all for gun control and spending resources on finding potential shooters before they act, but this problem requires a long battle on many fronts! The main issue is and should remain gun control. But if we're going to look at secondary issues I'd look at the whole white supremacist/nazi thing before I look at media coverage. Just a thought. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On May 19 2018 02:11 r.Evo wrote: As much as I agree with the idea that changes should be made in this regard and as much as I believe the US could learn something from the rest of the western world in this regard: I consider the above interview happening in the first place completely fucked up. Have some basic integrity and decency as both a journalist and a human being and leave victims alone. Excuse me while I dress my tinfoil-hat: Unfortunely, it seems like the media, in general, doesn't care. Actually, as fucked up as it may sound, one can even believe the media loves when some tragedy happens, as it gets them more viewership, eventually more revenue, etc etc. And along with that, they (the media), in general, pose as paladins of the justice and light, "seeking for the truth, never wrongdoing". Of course this tinfoil-hat crazy conspiracy theory doesn't apply to all the media, nor to all the coverages of one particular media channel. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Now, the youtube "hot take on today's events" video market is a different story. | ||
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Jan1997
Norway671 Posts
They could've just killed the fucker as fast as they saw him. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45309 Posts
On May 19 2018 06:56 Jan1997 wrote: I don't know much about this but isn't Texas one of those places where teachers are armed? They could've just killed the fucker as fast as they saw him. Yes, many schools in Texas have teachers who are armed with guns. I don't know if this Santa Fe school is one of them though, but I'm sure we'll have the opportunity to see what happens in such a scenario soon enough  | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45309 Posts
On May 19 2018 06:45 fabiano wrote: Excuse me while I dress my tinfoil-hat: Unfortunely, it seems like the media, in general, doesn't care. Actually, as fucked up as it may sound, one can even believe the media loves when some tragedy happens, as it gets them more viewership, eventually more revenue, etc etc. And along with that, they (the media), in general, pose as paladins of the justice and light, "seeking for the truth, never wrongdoing". Of course this tinfoil-hat crazy conspiracy theory doesn't apply to all the media, nor to all the coverages of one particular media channel. On one hand, it's the media's job to keep us informed of important events, even those that are soul-crushing, so that we can be aware, educated, and ideally react accordingly. On the other hand, it may create fearmongering, normalization, and a platform for other people who are considering committing a similar crime. Journalists and news reporters are often damned if they do talk about crime and tragedy and damned if they don't, because there's simply no way to ensure all of the positives without risking the negatives. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45309 Posts
What the fuck. Bottleneck the students even more, so that more of them are around a shooter? Not to mention the fact that it's such a fire/ safety hazard, it's literally illegal. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
Fuck this. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12392 Posts
On May 19 2018 08:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I just watched a video where Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick suggested schools should have fewer entrances in order to prevent mass shootings, as a response to today's shooting. What the fuck. Bottleneck the students even more, so that more of them are around a shooter? Not to mention the fact that it's such a fire/ safety hazard, it's literally illegal. His idea was that we put Good Guys With Guns (TM) at the few entrances left and poof, safety. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 19 2018 08:10 Aveng3r wrote: Its kind of telling that this thread only gets like 20 posts for the latest shooting. Its almost so routine now that nobody is even surprised anymore. Fuck this. I'd prefer the majority of posts happen after a breathing period and once more facts have come out. I don't find it any more substantial to hear sentiments akin to "thoughts and prayers" or "#NeverAgain" or gun control or armed teachers in greater quantity. | ||
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