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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 02 2017 14:09 GMT
#12801
What's new...

RIP
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2017 14:27 GMT
#12802
Apparently there is mass misinformation being pushed on twitter using the hashtag associated with the shooting. Twitter really needs to clamp down on that stuff when shootings like this happen. People are desperate for information and
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 15:45:33
October 02 2017 15:43 GMT
#12803
Just read this and I don't know what to say. horrible.
Killing 50 people from what seems to be at least 50-100m range,how is it possible?
Maybe people can do something themselves without government banning weapons. Like not allow people to bring firearms into hotels and such.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 02 2017 16:09 GMT
#12804
On October 03 2017 00:43 pmh wrote:
Just read this and I don't know what to say. horrible.
Killing 50 people from what seems to be at least 50-100m range,how is it possible?
Maybe people can do something themselves without government banning weapons. Like not allow people to bring firearms into hotels and such.


But then the evil guy finds a way to bring the gun into the hotel and slaughters the unarmed.

If you would have listened to the response to previous such incidents, the problem was clearly, that the 30k people down there were not sufficiently armed to take out the guy firing unseen from a balcony a few dozen floors above them!
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
October 02 2017 16:14 GMT
#12805
I'm just surprised by how many guns and how much ammo that guy had. I was watching videos for hours as they were coming out. Absolutely horrifying that it was just one man (as far as we know)

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17636 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 16:23:27
October 02 2017 16:19 GMT
#12806
violence in my country is way, way down and i'm tired of the media playing up violence like i'm on the verge of death every time i leave my house. we don't need 1000s more cops. everything is fine... and, in fact, its getting less and less violent with each passing year.

its also pretty sad how kids do not go outside and play any more due to this overblown fear they'll get snatched up. now we have a group of 18 to 21 year olds that are afraid of their own shadow because they've never done anything without adult supervision.
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
October 02 2017 16:45 GMT
#12807
Why was he able to bring that many firearms into a hotel?

Just in the city of Las Vegas, just during the remaining few months of 2017, there are seven scheduled multi-day gun shows.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2017 16:51 GMT
#12808
On October 03 2017 01:45 Circumstance wrote:
Why was he able to bring that many firearms into a hotel?

Just in the city of Las Vegas, just during the remaining few months of 2017, there are seven scheduled multi-day gun shows.

A reminder the person to person sales of fire arms are completely unregulated by the federal goverment. This means that every state’s regulate is only as good as the least regulated state’s regulations.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Crazy.Medic
Profile Joined April 2004
Korea (South)54 Posts
October 02 2017 16:55 GMT
#12809
On October 03 2017 00:43 pmh wrote:
Just read this and I don't know what to say. horrible.
Killing 50 people from what seems to be at least 50-100m range,how is it possible?
Maybe people can do something themselves without government banning weapons. Like not allow people to bring firearms into hotels and such.

To stop people bringing firearms into hotels you would have to start searching everyones luggage. That would kill the hotel industry. It is not like they willingly let him bring guns in.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10909 Posts
October 02 2017 17:10 GMT
#12810
Or have a scanner like at airports?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2017 17:13 GMT
#12811
On October 03 2017 02:10 Velr wrote:
Or have a scanner like at airports?

Those are there because the goverment forces airports to care about that stuff. Hotels are never going to be regulated like that and I doubt it would be legal to do so. We can own guns legally in the US.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10909 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 17:38:55
October 02 2017 17:18 GMT
#12812
But you're not allowed to fly with them? I guess?
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 02 2017 17:25 GMT
#12813
so instead of restricting guns we are talking about putting up scanners at hotels now? geez
FTD
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2017 17:26 GMT
#12814
On October 03 2017 02:18 Velr wrote:
But your not allowed to fly with them? I guess?

Yes, and flying is a very different thing than sleeping in a hotel.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9877 Posts
October 02 2017 17:27 GMT
#12815
On October 03 2017 02:25 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
so instead of restricting guns we are talking about putting up scanners at hotels now? geez


There will never be restrictions of guns in America. The timing will always be wrong, there's always some higher freedom to think about.
Those killed today and in every mass shooting are just collateral damage in a bigger fight for an imagined freedom.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10909 Posts
October 02 2017 17:30 GMT
#12816
On October 03 2017 02:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2017 02:18 Velr wrote:
But your not allowed to fly with them? I guess?

Yes, and flying is a very different thing than sleeping in a hotel.



Y
Well, you have to check into both of them if you want to use em


I get you and no, i never would advocate for it. There are plenty of easier solutions.
NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
October 02 2017 18:25 GMT
#12817
People here are talking about gun restrictions in America. Correct me if im wrong, but he used fully automatic weapons which are already banned.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 18:28:49
October 02 2017 18:28 GMT
#12818
On October 03 2017 03:25 NasusAndDraven wrote:
People here are talking about gun restrictions in America. Correct me if im wrong, but he used fully automatic weapons which are already banned.

You can buy semi-automatic weapons of the same make and model that can be easily modified to be fully automatic. They are illegal on paper, but easy enough to acquire if you want to obtain and modify them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
October 02 2017 18:42 GMT
#12819
The white terrorism in America is getting out of hand.

But this story is gonna be remember for 10 days and then forgotten until the next mass shooting happends.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12472 Posts
October 02 2017 18:44 GMT
#12820
On October 03 2017 03:42 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
The white terrorism in America is getting out of hand.

But this story is gonna be remember for 10 days and then forgotten until the next mass shooting happends.


Of course not. It will be remembered as evidence that the country is dangerous and that you need to buy guns to protect yourself within it.

Why not capitalize on an opportunity like this.
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