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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:28 itsjustatank wrote: You should link to this Wikipedia article in the OP so the unwashed understand you aren't actually debating policy but rather talking about the unique activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_debate Thanks for the advice! | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:28 itsjustatank wrote: You should link to this Wikipedia article in the OP so the unwashed understand you aren't actually debating policy but rather talking about the unique activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_debate Then again... they could read the entirety of the OP and get that idea anyways. I read the OP. now i am apparently stupid and...unwashed. T_T i go to bed. | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
Anyone have suggestions on how to approach spreading (in general)? | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:39 Jaso wrote: Wtf Anyone have suggestions on how to approach spreading (in general)? In actually trying to spread or understanding spreading? | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:39 Jaso wrote: Wtf Anyone have suggestions on how to approach spreading (in general)? Rap music helps you establish a cadence. After that, strive for clarity over speed by doing basic drills like speaking while holding a pen in your mouth. Good spreading develops over time and practice. And in terms of understanding it, it is also just a case of just being around it and learning over time. I remember being spread out of the room in my first round by a team that, by the end of my career, wasn't speaking that fast at all. | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:44 itsjustatank wrote: Rap music helps you establish a cadence. After that, strive for clarity over speed by doing basic drills like speaking while holding a pen in your mouth. Good spreading develops over time and practice. I agree with the speaking drills part of this, but don't listen to music while you spread. If you mess up even once, it ends up seriously screwing up your rhythm | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:47 BaconofWar wrote: I agree with the speaking drills part of this, but don't listen to music while you spread. If you mess up even once, it ends up seriously screwing up your rhythm Listening on headphones while speaking also doesn't do well to your speaks. Not to mention the potentially valuable audio cues judges and your opponents might give off during speech time. | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:48 Jaso wrote: Actually, I'm more looking for how to understand spreading. Ok, in understanding every word someone says, that's difficult to do. Really the best way to understand it is to listen to it a lot and get your brain to adjust to hearing people talk that fast. But a good trick: every card and argument is tagged, so listen for those, and you'll get a basic idea of the upcoming argument. | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
CX went something like this: "So everything you said is in here right?" "Were you flowing? No. We can use your preptime if you want to make sure you have everything I said though." | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 13:58 itsjustatank wrote: Don't fall into the habit of just looking at their blocks instead of keeping an accurate flow, regardless of their speed. I fondly remember watching a 2AC answering a one-off K with a 60 pt block with a lot of analytics and RVIs thrown in that werent in the blocks. CX went something like this: "So everything you said is in here right?" "Were you flowing? No. We can use your preptime if you want to make sure you have everything I said though." Hahahah lol. Plus a tip, if they're not flowing it when you're answering it, they're going to kick it | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
Also, if I have absolutely 0 clue what's going on in my opponent's speech what should I go for in the CX? (this is really LD and not policy but I guess it's the same) | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 14:05 Jaso wrote: By they, you do mean the judge, right? Also, if I have absolutely 0 clue what's going on in my opponent's speech what should I go for in the CX? (this is really LD and not policy but I guess it's the same) No, by they I mean the opponent. You should poke questions into whichever part seems logically flawed | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
Either that, or your judge is flowing on mspaint. | ||
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Tendou
United States54 Posts
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
I know that's what I should be doing in CX.. but like if they're spreading to the point where I don't understand anything what should I try to clarify? Just v/vc and taglines? edit: Last weekend I had a non-lay judge who didn't flow lol. She was spinning around in her swivel chair -_-; | ||
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
On February 16 2012 14:09 Tendou wrote: LOL I didn't know this thread existed. I love policy debate. To understand spreading, I am watching debate videos online (even though they aren't as clear due to quality, they are helluva a lot better than people in my league.) To practice, 15 mins of speaking drills all day err day! (oh yeah does anyone know what it means to "err" the affirmative or negative?) You side with aff/neg | ||
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
On February 16 2012 14:09 Tendou wrote: LOL I didn't know this thread existed. I love policy debate. To understand spreading, I am watching debate videos online (even though they aren't as clear due to quality, they are helluva a lot better than people in my league.) To practice, 15 mins of speaking drills all day err day! (oh yeah does anyone know what it means to "err" the affirmative or negative?) Like 'err neg on presumption?' Has to do with the burden of proof in round. If aff can't prove that there are advantages to changing the status quo (which neg defends), neg wins on presumption, even if all arguments left in round are purely defensive, not offensive. | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9174 Posts
On February 16 2012 14:23 forgottendreams wrote: I'm new to debating but during the burdon of proof rounds am I allowed to use the logic "because God willed it"? No. Unless you win some sort of framework that makes religious imperatives matter. | ||
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