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lagmaster
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States374 Posts
March 02 2011 02:02 GMT
#301

Maybe it was Crossroads of Twilight I am thinking of then. It is hard with so many books they have all sort of blended into one big story for me.
+ Show Spoiler +
Was it Winters Heart where Rand cleansed Saidin or Crossroads of Twilight?


+ Show Spoiler +
Rand cleansed saidin in Winter's heart. We don't see much of rand in CoT. Most of the time is spent covering Perrin and his manipulative bitch of a wife


The newest book was indeed awesome, though I disagree with TheZenith on the best part.

+ Show Spoiler +
Rand acting mature and wise beyond his years was pretty cool... but by far the best scene in the book was when Semirhage snapped the collar on Rand's neck. It was one of those scenes that just gripped my heart so tightly. If Rand was actually to kill Min with his own hands then he would be breaking the world in a heartbeat. Despite RJ and Sanderson refusing to kill off any major characters ala George R.R. Martin style, i truly felt in that moment that Min might die. It was a scene that left me breathless.

It's on par with Lanfear blowing up the wagon walking out of the flames screaming at Rand after she finds out he slept with Aviendha. Such powerful imagery.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14908 Posts
March 02 2011 02:06 GMT
#302
+ Show Spoiler +
wrong book, rand acted all mature and shit in towers of midnight, he almost killed min in the gathering storm
lagmaster
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States374 Posts
March 02 2011 03:22 GMT
#303
wow good call. My mistake. Great scene nonetheless
mytent
Profile Joined December 2010
United States156 Posts
March 02 2011 03:32 GMT
#304
Absolutely hate the new writer.


Brandon Sanderson? God.. he writes like a child. He doesn't even TRY to write in the same style as Robert Jordan...



...gave up reading after I bought the first Sanderson book in the WOT series.



Cowpieguy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States97 Posts
March 02 2011 03:36 GMT
#305
I agree, Sanderson kind of fucks it up. But the series is still awesome. I can't wait for the final book. I'm pretty sure Jordan wrote the end, so Sanderson won't mess it up.
andrewwiggin
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia435 Posts
March 02 2011 03:43 GMT
#306
yeah sanderson doesn't sound like robert jordan.I don't know whether he intended to write in a different voice or not, but he should have attempted to - its like getting JK rowling to write the 3rd book in LOTR.. =/

ShatterStorm
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia146 Posts
March 02 2011 03:44 GMT
#307
Although Sanderson IS a different person and therefore will have his own unique writing style, he was selected from a lengthy process of evaluation by the editors/publishers and the Jordan Family PLUS he spent quite a bit of time actually working with RJ to plan out the end of the series while RJ was on his death bed.

He's not just a guy who's "read the series and trying to work on ending it' but rather bound by extensive notes & discussions with all the originally involved parties. Nothing is released until/unless it gets the all clear from the franchise owners (Jordan Family, Editors, Publishers etc)

It is not possible for it to be exactly as Robert Jordan would have written if he were still alive, but all efforts are being made to ensure it is as close as humanly possible. A much better alternative to simply leaving the story unfinished at all in my opinion.
Do or do not, there is no try
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 03:51:41
March 02 2011 03:49 GMT
#308
On March 02 2011 11:06 KOFgokuon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
wrong book, rand acted all mature and shit in towers of midnight, he almost killed min in the gathering storm


I was just going to point that out, thanks. I do agree it was very good though. ^^


Edit: He may not write in the same style, but the story is still Jordan's. And it's so good, I don't understand how the change of author for the last 3 books would make you not want to finish it. Reading 11 books into a series is a pretty big time investment, even if the series transformed magically into Hello Kitty I'd finish it. Wouldn't even have to think about it. ^^
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
March 02 2011 03:51 GMT
#309
Oh my God, a Wheel of Time thread! Yeshshshsh

This series is my favourite. I can't say anymore
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Aurocaido
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 05:07:01
March 02 2011 04:54 GMT
#310
I give a great deal of credit to Sanderson for taking on the Wheel of Time. It really didn't matter how close he was to Jordan's style he would still have been criticized. The style is not the same, thats undeniable, however he does something that Jordan proved unable to do for the last 5 or so books; move the story forward.

There is only so much I can read about room decoration and how distrustful everyone is of Aes Sedai. I got it Jordan, you did not need to keep telling me every couple paragraphs. Sanderson is just so refreshing it didn't even matter to me that he messed up Matt. The other stale characters like Perrin, Egwene, and Elayne (Elayne is still one of my most disliked) became interesting to read again. Especially Perrin in Towers of Midnight
+ Show Spoiler +
The power forged weapon scene was awesome

I for one am glad the story is finally moving forward again and being brought to a close. The way Jordan was going about it the series would have lasted for another 11 books.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
March 02 2011 07:14 GMT
#311
On March 02 2011 10:36 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 10:32 Torenhire wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:28 Aurocaido wrote:
WoT is a great series, however as already stated after book 5/6 it tends to get a little long winded with not a lot actually happening. Winters Heart in particular is probably the worst fantasy novel I have ever read, you can seriously not read it and have missed next to nothing concerning plot advancement.

Sanderson in my opinion has done a masterful job of finishing the series. The ending of The Gathering Storm literally gave me chills, and the Aviendra scene in Towers of Midnight did the same. Those two books have made the repetitive shit of books 6-10 worth it and I can't wait for A Memory of Light.



*has hit a brick wall trying to finish Winters Heart*

T_T

It's a great series though, loved the first three books the most thus far, but once I batter down this damn Winters Heart I hope it will pick up again!


Oh dear...if you didn't like Winter's Heart (which I thought was a vast improvement over book 8) you REALLY won't like Crossroads of Twilight :x


It's not DISLIKING persay.

And I actually lied, I'm not even that far into the series yet, I'm stuck in the Crown of Swords. Just stuck in a particularly drab part of the book but it's drab for all the seperate characters so it's like 5x plots of nothing.

I love the series, no doubt about that. I'll make it through, I just don't read as much at once as I used to.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 02 2011 07:18 GMT
#312
On March 02 2011 16:14 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 10:36 mierin wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:32 Torenhire wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:28 Aurocaido wrote:
WoT is a great series, however as already stated after book 5/6 it tends to get a little long winded with not a lot actually happening. Winters Heart in particular is probably the worst fantasy novel I have ever read, you can seriously not read it and have missed next to nothing concerning plot advancement.

Sanderson in my opinion has done a masterful job of finishing the series. The ending of The Gathering Storm literally gave me chills, and the Aviendra scene in Towers of Midnight did the same. Those two books have made the repetitive shit of books 6-10 worth it and I can't wait for A Memory of Light.



*has hit a brick wall trying to finish Winters Heart*

T_T

It's a great series though, loved the first three books the most thus far, but once I batter down this damn Winters Heart I hope it will pick up again!


Oh dear...if you didn't like Winter's Heart (which I thought was a vast improvement over book 8) you REALLY won't like Crossroads of Twilight :x


It's not DISLIKING persay.

And I actually lied, I'm not even that far into the series yet, I'm stuck in the Crown of Swords. Just stuck in a particularly drab part of the book but it's drab for all the seperate characters so it's like 5x plots of nothing.

I love the series, no doubt about that. I'll make it through, I just don't read as much at once as I used to.

Trust me, go download the torrent of the audiobook and listen to it. Robert Jordan spends too much time describing the detail in his world that reading it gets tedious, but if you sit back and listen to the story and imagine the world in your head, it's far more enjoyable.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
March 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#313
Brandon Sanderson wrote a disclaimer when he took over saying that he wasn't going to attempt to write in the same style as Robert Jordan. And certain kudos for him to attempting to finish this epic tale when he (and no one else) possibly could finish it the way Jordan would.

I miss Jordan's writing incredibly. I loved it. While many found it tedious, I loved every piece of it, and trying to read the story from Sanderson's perspective is painful at times.

But that isn't a slight against Sanderson. Robert Jordan is dead. What can you do?
Happiness only real when shared.
TheAbysCries
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia41 Posts
March 02 2011 08:17 GMT
#314
On April 09 2003 17:57 Liquid`Spy wrote:
Icewind Dale (by R.A. Salvatore)


Wat, like the kickass DnD RPG? *looks it up* OK I geuss not....

Anyway I remember reading the 1st book, and I have NOOO idea why I didn't read any more. I'm gonna see if I can find the next books. Also sux that there's a lot of negative comments about some of the books and stuff, I geuss I'll just have to see.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
March 02 2011 12:05 GMT
#315
On March 02 2011 16:18 KevinIX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 16:14 Torenhire wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:36 mierin wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:32 Torenhire wrote:
On March 02 2011 10:28 Aurocaido wrote:
WoT is a great series, however as already stated after book 5/6 it tends to get a little long winded with not a lot actually happening. Winters Heart in particular is probably the worst fantasy novel I have ever read, you can seriously not read it and have missed next to nothing concerning plot advancement.

Sanderson in my opinion has done a masterful job of finishing the series. The ending of The Gathering Storm literally gave me chills, and the Aviendra scene in Towers of Midnight did the same. Those two books have made the repetitive shit of books 6-10 worth it and I can't wait for A Memory of Light.



*has hit a brick wall trying to finish Winters Heart*

T_T

It's a great series though, loved the first three books the most thus far, but once I batter down this damn Winters Heart I hope it will pick up again!


Oh dear...if you didn't like Winter's Heart (which I thought was a vast improvement over book 8) you REALLY won't like Crossroads of Twilight :x


It's not DISLIKING persay.

And I actually lied, I'm not even that far into the series yet, I'm stuck in the Crown of Swords. Just stuck in a particularly drab part of the book but it's drab for all the seperate characters so it's like 5x plots of nothing.

I love the series, no doubt about that. I'll make it through, I just don't read as much at once as I used to.

Trust me, go download the torrent of the audiobook and listen to it. Robert Jordan spends too much time describing the detail in his world that reading it gets tedious, but if you sit back and listen to the story and imagine the world in your head, it's far more enjoyable.


Hmm, I might just try that, not a bad idea!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 02 2011 14:12 GMT
#316
The entire audio book runtime for WoT is probably like 400 hours so good luck with that.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Branch.AUT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Austria853 Posts
March 02 2011 14:56 GMT
#317
I tried reading the first one, but that was just like lord of the rings, so i stopped a quarter in

was rather disappointing
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
March 02 2011 15:04 GMT
#318
So what book is it up to now? Last book I read was the one that came out last year? around this time ish. =S

I forget the name but it was when + Show Spoiler +
Mat and stuff went to the tower and escaped and then the city was about to get attacked due to proxy gates...then it ended =[
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 02 2011 15:04 GMT
#319
On March 02 2011 23:56 eezyBash wrote:
I tried reading the first one, but that was just like lord of the rings, so i stopped a quarter in

was rather disappointing


Grats, wheel of time diverges from lord of the rings totally about after the first book!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17693 Posts
March 02 2011 15:11 GMT
#320
On March 03 2011 00:04 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 23:56 eezyBash wrote:
I tried reading the first one, but that was just like lord of the rings, so i stopped a quarter in

was rather disappointing


Grats, wheel of time diverges from lord of the rings totally about after the first book!


Yeah, it becomes Dune by then with Bene Gesserit Aes Sedai making their petty plots, being brooding and unfriendly etc. etc.
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