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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 04 2011 00:44 GMT
#521
I'd rather donate a few dollars a month via subscription rather than allow ads. Please make this happen, Nazgul!
Turn off the radio
jeremysaint
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada80 Posts
November 04 2011 00:44 GMT
#522
so against my overwhelmingly better judgement i disabled adblock on TL for a little bit. ads on streams again... but i suspect there is someway to evade that.

in a way, worse though was that the ads i was seeing were for a product i find reprehensible. mail order brides are an exploitation based industry and generally pure evil. i recognize that TL probably has little or no choice in the kind of ads that get run but i can not reconcile my conscience with somehow providing support to an industry that is so despicable. it should mean something that i overwhelmingly support legalization of prostitution and still am angered greatly by this nightmarishly evil business.

plus the ads on streams issue....
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 04 2011 00:46 GMT
#523
On November 04 2011 09:25 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I've never understood why anyone would adblock a site they like enough to visit regularly. Seeing so many people come here as a regular visitors all the while blocking ads, justifying by whatever reasoning makes them feel better about it, is upsetting to read.

We removed the "Don't hurt Esports" thing. It was a complete joke that we thought would be funny. We didn't realize that people would take it serious. I apologize if you took offense.




Nazgul, you're acting like you're the lord of the moral domain while we're wicked people incapable of any judgment but ones which satisfy our egoist sensitivties. I'm not taking offense here though, just saying that your statement can be interpreted in this way. I would like to think that there are a lot of very intelligent, cultured and educated people reading and contributing here.

But I have to say that I have ad-block on to save bandwidth, memory, etc. Makes the internet less bloated, it's in my interest to leave it on. To add an exception in ad-block for your website, in my case, far exceeds the potential utility for you. Might take me 15 minutes to learn how and properly apply the filter. The money I would be generating for you is (hyperbolic) 7,000,000 times less than the market value of my time. I'm figuring 0.0001% chance of me generating 2 cents by clicking an ad by accident.

I would also add that you're using an advertising model because you're forced to, not as a courtesy. Competing message boards would eat TL alive if it decided to charge for participation/membership.

I've built a few mildly successful websites in my time and total traffic maybe approaching one million. I don't expect anyone coming in my hobby websites to care about the infinitesimal moral economics because the reality of message boards is that they can be replaced by someone who will let them run for free. In the end no one should care about the moral economy here. It's infinitesimal fractions of cents and they don't even matter if they're brought together.

What I'm ok with is spending the hundred dollars on the GomTV vods this year. Now you're talking about a scale that actually matters, paying market value for a product with significant costs.


Your situation isn't unique. All the reasons you outlined apply to almost everyone. Yet we unblock TL because we want to do our part to support it.
lazyo
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany90 Posts
November 04 2011 00:47 GMT
#524
I disable adblock and do see some ads, but because I have not allowed a single advertising company through noscript I still see the elephant plenty. Sorry TL but I#m not getting tracked by ad agencies
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
November 04 2011 00:47 GMT
#525
I only adblock certain streams because they run commercials way too damn often. On team liquid, I try to keep it off as much as possible, but I forget from time to time.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
November 04 2011 00:48 GMT
#526
On November 04 2011 09:25 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I've never understood why anyone would adblock a site they like enough to visit regularly. Seeing so many people come here as a regular visitors all the while blocking ads, justifying by whatever reasoning makes them feel better about it, is upsetting to read.

We removed the "Don't hurt Esports" thing. It was a complete joke that we thought would be funny. We didn't realize that people would take it serious. I apologize if you took offense.


But I have to say that I have ad-block on to save bandwidth, memory, etc. Makes the internet less bloated, it's in my interest to leave it on. To add an exception in ad-block for your website, in my case, far exceeds the potential utility for you. Might take me 15 minutes to learn how and properly apply the filter. The money I would be generating for you is (hyperbolic) 7,000,000 times less than the market value of my time. I'm figuring 0.0001% chance of me generating 2 cents by clicking an ad by accident.



Lots of advertising is not paid by clicks, but by impressions.

Working in the online advertising industry, I could elaborate a lot, but for now, I won't.

I'll just say that you are plain wrong, someone clicking through many pages of threads could bring TL several cents.

And clicks are worth way more than 2 cents, the cheapest ones are in the 25 cent region, expensive ones are several dollars, and when it comes to conversions (someone actually buying something), these are worth up to 80 dollars and more.


Here be Dragons
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
November 04 2011 00:49 GMT
#527
On November 04 2011 09:44 Zealotdriver wrote:
I'd rather donate a few dollars a month via subscription rather than allow ads. Please make this happen, Nazgul!


Yes, we are many on this thread to say that, it should be implemented imo
Blocking ads dont mean we dont want to support TL.
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
November 04 2011 00:51 GMT
#528
On November 04 2011 09:44 jeremysaint wrote:
so against my overwhelmingly better judgement i disabled adblock on TL for a little bit. ads on streams again... but i suspect there is someway to evade that.

in a way, worse though was that the ads i was seeing were for a product i find reprehensible. mail order brides are an exploitation based industry and generally pure evil. i recognize that TL probably has little or no choice in the kind of ads that get run but i can not reconcile my conscience with somehow providing support to an industry that is so despicable. it should mean something that i overwhelmingly support legalization of prostitution and still am angered greatly by this nightmarishly evil business.



the 'publishers' of ads (in this case TL) can usually opt out of certain ad categories, or even ask for blacklisting of certain domains.

The amount of misinformation in this thread is astounding, everyone on the internet knows so much!
Here be Dragons
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
November 04 2011 00:52 GMT
#529
I ad-block the shit out of everything, sorry TL but you're no different.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
November 04 2011 00:52 GMT
#530
I kind of like the crying elephant though.. maybe if it was like a devilish Hot_Bid face saying "TURN OFF FUCKING ADBLOCK" then I would.
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
November 04 2011 00:56 GMT
#531
On November 04 2011 09:52 darklordjac wrote:
I ad-block the shit out of everything, sorry TL but you're no different.

sorry tl i hate all ads
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
November 04 2011 00:58 GMT
#532
It's as ridiculous to ask your site viewers to not block ads as it is for the streaming sites to lock the application's volume to *super goddamn loud* whenever an advertisement is playing. Twitch.tv still does this. YouTube stopped doing this (or maybe never did), because they realized that it's tacky, childish, and disrespectful of the user's right to control their computer.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
November 04 2011 00:58 GMT
#533
I hate ads, therefore I block them.

Quite simple.
EmpireHappy <3 STHack <3 ByunPrime
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 04 2011 00:59 GMT
#534
Uhh, i google searched but came up with no results, how do i enable ads for this site on Chrome?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
November 04 2011 01:00 GMT
#535
If you're like me and you feel guilty seeing the poor little elephant, you can right click it and block the image using adblock. Great little app.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:08:22
November 04 2011 01:01 GMT
#536
On November 04 2011 09:25 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I've never understood why anyone would adblock a site they like enough to visit regularly. Seeing so many people come here as a regular visitors all the while blocking ads, justifying by whatever reasoning makes them feel better about it, is upsetting to read.

We removed the "Don't hurt Esports" thing. It was a complete joke that we thought would be funny. We didn't realize that people would take it serious. I apologize if you took offense.


Nazgul, you're acting like you're the lord of the moral domain while we're wicked people incapable of any judgment but ones which satisfy our egoist sensitivties. I'm not taking offense here though, just saying that your statement can be interpreted in this way. I would like to think that there are a lot of very intelligent, cultured and educated people reading and contributing here.

But I have to say that I have ad-block on to save bandwidth, memory, etc. Makes the internet less bloated, it's in my interest to leave it on. To add an exception in ad-block for your website, in my case, far exceeds the potential utility for you. Might take me 15 minutes to learn how and properly apply the filter. The money I would be generating for you is (hyperbolic) 7,000,000 times less than the market value of my time. I'm figuring 0.0001% chance of me generating 2 cents by clicking an ad by accident.

I would also add that you're using an advertising model because you're forced to, not as a courtesy. Competing message boards would eat TL alive if it decided to charge for participation/membership.

I've built a few mildly successful websites in my time and total traffic maybe approaching one million. I don't expect anyone coming in my hobby websites to care about the infinitesimal moral economics because the reality of message boards is that they can be replaced by someone who will let them run for free. In the end no one should care about the moral economy here. It's infinitesimal fractions of cents and they don't even matter if they're brought together.

What I'm ok with is spending the hundred dollars on the GomTV vods this year. Now you're talking about a scale that actually matters, paying market value for a product with significant costs.
This is a teaching moment:

Every year, millions of people think they know better than anyone else, and thus become insufferable to everyone around them. It's a horrible affliction that has stymied modern medicine. It's called 'rational egoism'. Symptoms include becoming pretentious and irritating, losing all your friends, and becoming 'that guy'. Don't be that guy. Please take precautions to avoid becoming one of the sad and lonely group of people each year who are stricken with this plague. Be nice to your fellow man. Go out of your way to help others in need. Enjoy life.

If you, or someone you know is suffering from rational egoism please contact your local homeless shelter, soup kitchen, food pantry, religious denomination, or any miscellaneous charity. Please, friends don't friends become rational egoists.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
RaptorJesus
Profile Joined May 2009
United States20 Posts
November 04 2011 01:02 GMT
#537
I whitelisted teamliquid.net in adblock, but I also run Noscript. Ads are still blocked because I'm not willing to allow javascript from advertising domains and I don't think it's possible to allow those domains only on teamliquid.net. Sorry bros
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 04 2011 01:04 GMT
#538
Pretty disappointing to see that 1/3 of the people who visit this site would adblock it even after TL asking you not to. I mean it doesn't actually cost you anything to unblock TL, besides 15 seconds of your time. It's not like seeing an ad is going to turn you blind.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#539
Same issue here as raptorjesus.
I disabled adblock on TL but on occasion I still get the elephant if the ad is fetched from a domain that's blocked via noscript.

I love TL but not enough to enable ads for every website I visit. Some of them are just ridiculous.
Not sure what I can do to help =\

If there's a workaround, I'd be happy to apply it.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:08:20
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#540
Thanks for making this thread. I didn't know how to filter my adblock.

I still see the elephant banner but I also see the ads so I guess it's fine.
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