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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 18 2011 01:32 GMT
#121
On October 18 2011 10:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:28 deathgod6 wrote:
This has got to be the one of the saddest things I've ever watched.

Agreed.
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:26 Slipspace wrote:
It's a completely pathetic world when a bunch of "educated" "first world" citizens admit to probably not helping a dying little girl on the offchance they could get sued.

Really disappointed in TL.

And also agreed.

I could get in trouble? Sued? Thrown in jail?

There is a child dying in the street. I'm supposed to say "better her than me?"

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your children could go hungry

Better Her than my children
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
October 18 2011 01:32 GMT
#122
Ignorance to escape the possible consequences... Doesn't seem exclusively Chinese to me. Theres a shitty loophole in the Chinese law right now regarding these kinds of situations, so people are not helping.

As previously mentioned, most if not all of those passerbys would've helped if it wasn't for the fact that the Chinese courts are running out an outdated, broken system.

But at the same time, this happens in varying degrees anywhere in the world.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 18 2011 01:33 GMT
#123
On October 18 2011 10:32 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:28 deathgod6 wrote:
This has got to be the one of the saddest things I've ever watched.

Agreed.
On October 18 2011 10:26 Slipspace wrote:
It's a completely pathetic world when a bunch of "educated" "first world" citizens admit to probably not helping a dying little girl on the offchance they could get sued.

Really disappointed in TL.

And also agreed.

I could get in trouble? Sued? Thrown in jail?

There is a child dying in the street. I'm supposed to say "better her than me?"

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your children could go hungry

Better Her than my children

Then I guess I will say for the second time in this thread:

Thank god I don't have children.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#124
On October 18 2011 10:32 Jombozeus wrote:
Ignorance to escape the possible consequences... Doesn't seem exclusively Chinese to me. Theres a shitty loophole in the Chinese law right now regarding these kinds of situations, so people are not helping.

As previously mentioned, most if not all of those passerbys would've helped if it wasn't for the fact that the Chinese courts are running out an outdated, broken system.

But at the same time, this happens in varying degrees anywhere in the world.

Fuck 06 decision, That shit fucked over Chinese morals bad
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Galaxy77
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Hong Kong256 Posts
October 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#125
On October 18 2011 10:28 TOloseGT wrote:
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On October 18 2011 10:25 Galaxy77 wrote:
Disgusting. Life is sacred regardless of who you are or where you are in the world.


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On October 18 2011 10:27 SevenBunnies wrote:I also don't see how any law can prevent basic human principles; helping the less fortunate is one of humanity's earliest adaptions.


These views are extremely limited. It's only recently that human life has been seen that way.


The fundamentals of any animal / human / creature on the planet all have the same ultimate goal; to strive to continue repopulating their own race. In this sense, every human should look out for one another. I am not a religious fanatic, I'm actually an Athiest. For me, I would help anyone in almost any situation, provided it's not putting more people at risk.
Sipher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
October 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#126
This is truly messed up. However, this reminds me of seeing an hispanic man save a lady from being robbed on the streets in New York. And he ended up getting stabbed fatally by the robber. Meanwhile he laid there for hours bleeding out to death while people ignored him before an Emergency unit arrived. By the time they arrived he was dead. I'm sure you could find the video if you search for it.

This happens far more often than you think. It has to do with the psychology of humans. Many people think other people will step in and help, so they walk on by ignoring it. I can say a whole lot more on the subject, but I noticed there are already many long posts. So I'll keep it short. My apologies if anyone has talked about this instance already. So do not blame just the Chinese. There are lots of shitty things that happen to people who do the right thing here in USA, DESPITE the "good samaritan law".
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 01:35:05
October 18 2011 01:34 GMT
#127
The reason why no one helps anymore in china is this:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2011-01/05/content_11794724.htm

One case happened where a guy, out the kindness of his heart helped an old lady get up after she fell down, got sued and was forced to pay 40% of the medical fees. There is no good Samaritan law in China which means although you see it, you can do nothing unless you want to take the risk.

In this particular case though, it was heartwrenching to see what the first driver did and the subsequent passerby's do nothing but look but those are risks. I'm going to hope that the first driver that ran her over is caught and charged with attempted murder.

For anyone that understands Cantonese/reads chinese, this link has a slightly better explanation of events.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1246963029

Horrible but not much you can do when good intentions can fuck you over. I know when my family goes over to HK/China, we follow the rule of see nothing, do nothing since it's not worth it at all.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 18 2011 01:35 GMT
#128
On October 18 2011 10:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:32 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:28 deathgod6 wrote:
This has got to be the one of the saddest things I've ever watched.

Agreed.
On October 18 2011 10:26 Slipspace wrote:
It's a completely pathetic world when a bunch of "educated" "first world" citizens admit to probably not helping a dying little girl on the offchance they could get sued.

Really disappointed in TL.

And also agreed.

I could get in trouble? Sued? Thrown in jail?

There is a child dying in the street. I'm supposed to say "better her than me?"

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your children could go hungry

Better Her than my children

Then I guess I will say for the second time in this thread:

Thank god I don't have children.

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your family could go hungry

better her than my family
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
October 18 2011 01:35 GMT
#129
If they would make the laws the same as NA, it wouldn't happen or it would at least make it no different from helping or not helping... whereas if you live in China+attempt to help, they could sue you ( the helper ) for whatever...
It's just the laws that make it happen or encourages it more...
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 18 2011 01:35 GMT
#130
On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:
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On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.


This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them.

Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping


Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 01:37:22
October 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#131
On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.


This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them.

Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping


Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason.

Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future

Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do.

Is your family worth that one life?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
October 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#132
On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.


This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them.

Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping


Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason.


I think it's horrible too but you have to put yourself in their shoes. Their life could be ruined by trying to help this child.
BW4Life!
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
October 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#133
I just realized another fucking problem with that video. Where's the godamn sidewalk? There should be regulations to ensure the presence of sidewalks so you can set easy limits for children, ie stay off the road. There should also be regulations for the vehicles. That thing's as tall as a fucking bus, it had no business .....

Space... there's no space... godamn it. So many issues are interrelated.
Meself
Profile Joined February 2011
Estonia552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 01:43:17
October 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#134
People should be more aware of the 'bystander effect'. I'm not saying that environmental and social differences and whatnot don't add to this specific case, but it's not as obvious as it seems.
Couldn't watch more than half a minute of that video either. Really sickening and sad.

EDIT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Please at least read about it before making comments of extreme kind. Sadly, we are bounded by varied types of psychological effects of that kind.

Also, offtopic a bit, this lecture describes another bad side of human nature:

http://www.ted.com/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 18 2011 01:37 GMT
#135
On October 18 2011 10:35 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:32 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:28 deathgod6 wrote:
This has got to be the one of the saddest things I've ever watched.

Agreed.
On October 18 2011 10:26 Slipspace wrote:
It's a completely pathetic world when a bunch of "educated" "first world" citizens admit to probably not helping a dying little girl on the offchance they could get sued.

Really disappointed in TL.

And also agreed.

I could get in trouble? Sued? Thrown in jail?

There is a child dying in the street. I'm supposed to say "better her than me?"

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your children could go hungry

Better Her than my children

Then I guess I will say for the second time in this thread:

Thank god I don't have children.

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your family could go hungry

better her than my family


Someone puts a gun to little girls head and says if you don't give him your life savings he will pull the trigger. If you refuse he kills her and leaves, you continue with your life as normal.

I know what I would do.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 18 2011 01:38 GMT
#136
On October 18 2011 10:37 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:35 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:32 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:28 deathgod6 wrote:
This has got to be the one of the saddest things I've ever watched.

Agreed.
On October 18 2011 10:26 Slipspace wrote:
It's a completely pathetic world when a bunch of "educated" "first world" citizens admit to probably not helping a dying little girl on the offchance they could get sued.

Really disappointed in TL.

And also agreed.

I could get in trouble? Sued? Thrown in jail?

There is a child dying in the street. I'm supposed to say "better her than me?"

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your children could go hungry

Better Her than my children

Then I guess I will say for the second time in this thread:

Thank god I don't have children.

There is a child dying on the street, you don't know her, she doesn't know you, You could get sued, Your family assets could go to the dumpsters, your family could go hungry

better her than my family


Someone puts a gun to little girls head and says if you don't give him your life savings he will pull the trigger. If you refuse he kills her and leaves, you continue with your life as normal.

I know what I would do.

Call me selfish, but I care about my family more than some girl with no relation to me
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Dazer
Profile Joined September 2010
239 Posts
October 18 2011 01:38 GMT
#137
On October 18 2011 10:36 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
I just realized another fucking problem with that video. Where's the godamn sidewalk? There should be regulations to ensure the presence of sidewalks so you can set easy limits for children, ie stay off the road. There should also be regulations for the vehicles. That thing's as tall as a fucking bus, it had no business .....

Space... there's no space... godamn it. So many issues are interrelated.


Welcome to third world society.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#138
On October 18 2011 10:31 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:26 flamewheel wrote:
Sigh.

Can't tell if you are sighing at the thread or what happened in the youtube clip?

Both.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#139
On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.


This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them.

Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping


Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason.

Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future

Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do.

Is your family worth that one life?


Having grown up in China, I definitely understand this sentiment. But the fact that this sentiment even exists is ridiculous.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#140
On October 18 2011 10:40 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 10:36 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:35 The KY wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:22 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:20 HellRoxYa wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote:
We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.


This actually makes no sense at all. Their value compared to your own would only matter if you were to risk anything by assisting them.

Say that as you help her and her mother jumps out of the shadows to sue you for helping


Anyone who watches a 2 year old girl die because they are afraid of being sued is...well that's a bullshit reason.

Like I said, better her dying than my family going hungry from me losing my assets, job, and future

Helping isn't bad but think abit about what can happen if you do.

Is your family worth that one life?


Having grown up in China, I definitely understand this sentiment. But the fact that this sentiment even exists is ridiculous.

Blame it on the 06 decision
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