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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 27 2017 02:14 GMT
#19101
"I can take that responsibility" your quote says.

Now imagine that responsibility is not making yourself look like a needy fool. She denied you, yet you still keep idolizing her in your head. Completely understandable. I've been there as well. It was good of you pro actively ask her out and be denied. Sucks but now you know. Now it's time to move on.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 27 2017 03:19 GMT
#19102
On November 27 2017 11:14 B.I.G. wrote:
"I can take that responsibility" your quote says.

Now imagine that responsibility is not making yourself look like a needy fool. She denied you, yet you still keep idolizing her in your head. Completely understandable. I've been there as well. It was good of you pro actively ask her out and be denied. Sucks but now you know. Now it's time to move on.


Your right I'm probably still just keeping an unrealistic image of her in my head. Otherwise, fuck that, I'll take responsibility for being the weird, probably needy, fool that I am. I'm not interested in pretending to be something I'm not, I'd rather own who I am and work to improve that person.

On November 27 2017 11:13 WarSame wrote:
You could ask her if that would be weird.


Yea, that's a good thought. I might go ahead and buy the thing and then ask. I can always return it.

Asking coworkers to pitch in doesn't work. Possible some people would be willing, but I doubt it. Also I won't have a chance.

Thanks for the feedback!
I can take that responsibility.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 27 2017 03:29 GMT
#19103
lol wtf don't buy/ask/return... what kind of weirdo thing is that.

If u want to give a birthday gift just do it, if not, don't. Just don't fool yourself that you get into womans pants with birthday gifts.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8863 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-27 04:47:51
November 27 2017 04:45 GMT
#19104
not sure what you mean by you wont have a chance, but in most workplaces if the people arent douchebags and the office culture is friendly, its quite easy to get people to buy a present together. if you want her to know its a present from you only then coworkers chipping in would be against your interests, but youd also be lying to yourself about how you dont want this to be received weirdly and you genuinely want her to get a gift she could use
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 27 2017 05:02 GMT
#19105
Think I might go gay.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 27 2017 11:05 GMT
#19106
On November 27 2017 10:22 Tictock wrote:
I'm finding myself in an odd position here guys.

There is this girl who I work with who I like a fair bit, already asked her out and got rejected. I'm pretty sure things won't change there either as while we are friendly there really is nothing going on past good natured work relations.

The thing that is bothering me now is that it is her birthday soon and I feel like getting her a gift. Knowing that she wants to start training for a marathon and is generally an outdoorsy person, I am finding myself tempted to by her a Fitbit.

I keep telling myself this is a bad idea as it will only make her feel awkward and not want to accept it. Yet I still find myself just wanting to do it as I think it would be nice and she would definitely get use out of it.

Am I just crazy for wanting to do this? I want to be clear that I am not at all trying to impress her, win her over, whatever. I just think she is a cool person and want to do something nice for her birthday. Just despite feeling like it will put pressure on her given she knows I like her I can't seem to convince myself not to do this ATM. Talk me down guys.

Bad idea, too soon, absolutely do not do it.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
derAbsoluteMettmann
Profile Joined November 2017
1 Post
November 27 2017 12:09 GMT
#19107
On November 27 2017 14:02 SCC-Faust wrote:
Think I might go gay.


Ah yes, the siren song of the wang. Many have headed its call, few came back to tell the tale.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 27 2017 13:27 GMT
#19108
On November 27 2017 10:22 Tictock wrote:
I'm finding myself in an odd position here guys.

There is this girl who I work with who I like a fair bit, already asked her out and got rejected. I'm pretty sure things won't change there either as while we are friendly there really is nothing going on past good natured work relations.

The thing that is bothering me now is that it is her birthday soon and I feel like getting her a gift. Knowing that she wants to start training for a marathon and is generally an outdoorsy person, I am finding myself tempted to by her a Fitbit.

I keep telling myself this is a bad idea as it will only make her feel awkward and not want to accept it. Yet I still find myself just wanting to do it as I think it would be nice and she would definitely get use out of it.

Am I just crazy for wanting to do this? I want to be clear that I am not at all trying to impress her, win her over, whatever. I just think she is a cool person and want to do something nice for her birthday. Just despite feeling like it will put pressure on her given she knows I like her I can't seem to convince myself not to do this ATM. Talk me down guys.

Are you buying your male colleagues expensive gifts ?
No? Dont do it give her a card or sign an office one like normal ppl do :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
sc-darkness
Profile Joined August 2017
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-27 22:57:14
November 27 2017 22:56 GMT
#19109
On November 27 2017 11:11 evilfatsh1t wrote:
this ones easy.
get coworkers to chip in for the gift.


I'm not an expert but I think this has a realistic chance to succeed if you *really* want to give that gift. Obviously, it won't be a personal one but she gets the gift.
urmomdresslikafloozy
Profile Joined October 2017
191 Posts
November 28 2017 01:38 GMT
#19110
Quick question here:

I've been dating a girl for a couple weeks that is a veterinarian at the emergency clinic by my house that i took my dog to in the middle of the night. It is going all well until she confided in me that she is has 250k in student loans and 6k in credit card debt and I was like O_o'. Should I take that as a sign to run as fast as I can or should i stick with it? She said she makes 10k a month but pays 8k a month for her time at USC and Amherst medical school. That's like making minimum wage while being a doctor.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 28 2017 01:55 GMT
#19111
Isn't that normal for a young doc? I'd like her honeaty, but make sure she tries to stand on her feet, pay for herself some etc.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
urmomdresslikafloozy
Profile Joined October 2017
191 Posts
November 28 2017 02:18 GMT
#19112
On November 28 2017 10:55 LemOn wrote:
Isn't that normal for a young doc? I'd like her honeaty, but make sure she tries to stand on her feet, pay for herself some etc.

I believe so, at least in America. She just turned 29, graduated med school 8 months ago, and works 12 hour shifts 10pm to 10am
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
November 28 2017 02:36 GMT
#19113
On November 28 2017 11:18 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2017 10:55 LemOn wrote:
Isn't that normal for a young doc? I'd like her honeaty, but make sure she tries to stand on her feet, pay for herself some etc.

I believe so, at least in America. She just turned 29, graduated med school 8 months ago, and works 12 hour shifts 10pm to 10am

Yeah that's very normal. How long have you known her?
Что?
urmomdresslikafloozy
Profile Joined October 2017
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-28 02:52:13
November 28 2017 02:51 GMT
#19114
On November 28 2017 11:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2017 11:18 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote:
On November 28 2017 10:55 LemOn wrote:
Isn't that normal for a young doc? I'd like her honeaty, but make sure she tries to stand on her feet, pay for herself some etc.

I believe so, at least in America. She just turned 29, graduated med school 8 months ago, and works 12 hour shifts 10pm to 10am

Yeah that's very normal. How long have you known her?

Going on a month now. She is Hawaiian and Korean, definitely smarter than me, but I own a house that has a lot of equity and she lives in studio apartment so it evens itself out haha.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 28 2017 14:05 GMT
#19115
On November 28 2017 10:38 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote:
Quick question here:

I've been dating a girl for a couple weeks that is a veterinarian at the emergency clinic by my house that i took my dog to in the middle of the night. It is going all well until she confided in me that she is has 250k in student loans and 6k in credit card debt and I was like O_o'. Should I take that as a sign to run as fast as I can or should i stick with it? She said she makes 10k a month but pays 8k a month for her time at USC and Amherst medical school. That's like making minimum wage while being a doctor.

Sadly thats perfectly normal in the US. I will be joining that life next year. If you like her go for it!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
November 28 2017 17:14 GMT
#19116
On November 28 2017 11:18 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2017 10:55 LemOn wrote:
Isn't that normal for a young doc? I'd like her honeaty, but make sure she tries to stand on her feet, pay for herself some etc.

I believe so, at least in America. She just turned 29, graduated med school 8 months ago, and works 12 hour shifts 10pm to 10am


It's kinda normal. For me personally, the fact that she manages to handle that type of situation (if she manages to ) would actually be a plus.

Anyway, if you like each other, I don't think the debt should be a dealbreaker at all, unless she's trying to take advantage of you - but it doesn't sound like that's the case at all.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45861 Posts
November 29 2017 17:49 GMT
#19117
On November 28 2017 10:38 urmomdresslikafloozy wrote:
Quick question here:

I've been dating a girl for a couple weeks that is a veterinarian at the emergency clinic by my house that i took my dog to in the middle of the night. It is going all well until she confided in me that she is has 250k in student loans and 6k in credit card debt and I was like O_o'. Should I take that as a sign to run as fast as I can or should i stick with it? She said she makes 10k a month but pays 8k a month for her time at USC and Amherst medical school. That's like making minimum wage while being a doctor.


That's totally normal for a veterinarian; they also make far less money than human doctors, so it takes longer to pay off a comparable amount of student debt.

I'm married to a veterinarian and she's the best thing that ever happened to me, so I wouldn't take the necessary financial debt as a sign that your girl is having unique or odd problems.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 30 2017 02:49 GMT
#19118
Also should add that a Hawaiian Korean mixed blood lady sounds hot so there's that.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 30 2017 12:40 GMT
#19119
I'm getting a hair cut and new threads today. I also shaved my neckbeard. Still have tons of acne and am unfortunately an ugly spot on mankind's gene pool, but I did push myself up from a 1.5/10 to maybe a 3/10. This is boosting my self confidence. I've noticed that someone with my looks doesn't fair well on dating sites or apps. I swiped right on tinder for a solid 30 and only got guys matching me. Is there an "ugly" dating app? Or should I attend furcons and anime conventions to meet ladies?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
November 30 2017 12:42 GMT
#19120
You should probably work on your self-esteem before any of that.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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