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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.
Posts of the following nature are banned:
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3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
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I try to skip Cloud's post because if you follow his rules you will never be happy with your partner and it's just some alpha-male crap
And I've been suicidal and depressed too when I was in high school and I understand it
Things he's saying are only an illusion of being happy with woman(or man depends on your preferences) and are kind of a short term solution if you want to find friends with benefits. He's right though when he's saying that people are animals and behave that way but it doesn't mean you should do whatever your body tells you to do every time because this is just not going to work unless you want to change your not-only-sex-partners every week.
@Down I wanted to say the same thing about you but it's not the topic about that
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On September 13 2013 00:59 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 00:55 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:46 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:41 aTnClouD wrote:
The amount of bigotry and aggressiveness of incompetent and uneducated people in this thread is never disappointing. I suggest to take things further when both like each other and some random dude screams rape wtf? Somebody has to make the first move and most girls are afraid or scared to do so. It's very easy to understand when they want you to as they keep sending signals they like you and when they want you to stop and shut you down. Only a complete retard is unaware of body language and bases his interaction on words alone.
And yes I'm dating a 17 yo girl at the moment and I really like her. I don't judge people by age and she's mature enough to be with me. People arguing about age without knowing the person are pretty dumb, but that should come without saying. well he described the signals as wanting to take it slow and you said what she says and what she wants are different. have sex with her. pretty sure you weren't calling him a retard unless he realized she wanted his dick but it's hard to follow. You said your immature emo girlfriend cuts her wrists when her parents don't let her go out with you. If she likes him he should try to have sex with her asap or he will lose her to someone else who will make a move when she's horny. That's what human beings who are attracted to each other do. And I've been suicidal and depressed too when I was in high school and I understand it. Happens when you have to obey a strict family that will not allow you to be happy and it doesn't make you unworthy of anything. I think your advice is more applicable to the animal kingdom. And you said it was cause she was spoiled.
Humans are mammals and belong to the animal kingdom. Sure we have the neocortex and reason but our urges are very similar to the ones of other animals. People who don't believe so are basically saying a big fuck you to scientific research.
edit: nerchio giving advice on happiness and how to handle people made me chuckle really hard :D
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Where's that mod that was talking about closing this thread? I think it's time.
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I am dating 3 people right now. I am in love with 2...
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On September 13 2013 01:39 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 00:59 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:55 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:46 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:41 aTnClouD wrote:
The amount of bigotry and aggressiveness of incompetent and uneducated people in this thread is never disappointing. I suggest to take things further when both like each other and some random dude screams rape wtf? Somebody has to make the first move and most girls are afraid or scared to do so. It's very easy to understand when they want you to as they keep sending signals they like you and when they want you to stop and shut you down. Only a complete retard is unaware of body language and bases his interaction on words alone.
And yes I'm dating a 17 yo girl at the moment and I really like her. I don't judge people by age and she's mature enough to be with me. People arguing about age without knowing the person are pretty dumb, but that should come without saying. well he described the signals as wanting to take it slow and you said what she says and what she wants are different. have sex with her. pretty sure you weren't calling him a retard unless he realized she wanted his dick but it's hard to follow. You said your immature emo girlfriend cuts her wrists when her parents don't let her go out with you. If she likes him he should try to have sex with her asap or he will lose her to someone else who will make a move when she's horny. That's what human beings who are attracted to each other do. And I've been suicidal and depressed too when I was in high school and I understand it. Happens when you have to obey a strict family that will not allow you to be happy and it doesn't make you unworthy of anything. I think your advice is more applicable to the animal kingdom. And you said it was cause she was spoiled. Humans are mammals and belong to the animal kingdom. Sure we have the neocortex and reason but our urges are very similar to the ones of other animals. People who don't believe so are basically saying a big fuck you to scientific research. edit: nerchio giving advice on happiness and how to handle people made me chuckle really hard :D
My point was just that humans are capable of making romantic decisions based off of more than fuck her now so someone else doesn't and also that no doesn't mean try harder. I don't think that the original question poster is a retard for not reading that from their body language.
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On September 13 2013 00:23 ImustnotfeaR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 00:15 Killscreen wrote:On September 13 2013 00:13 farvacola wrote:On September 13 2013 00:08 Killscreen wrote:On September 13 2013 00:04 farvacola wrote:
Gosh, never have I felt so accomplished in regards to having gotten legitimate yes's from the women I've slept with. Thanks Cloud and Killscreen! If you would have persisted and not just given up the second she gives you some token resistance, like a pussy, you would've gotten a lot more yes's. The last couple of girls I hooked up with both told me no, and half an hour later were telling me to take them home and fuck them. Look man, we can't all be ugly or stupid enough to have the women we pursue tell us no. God loves each and everyone of us all the same. Yeah, and some of us like to pursue hot intelligent women who make sure that the guys they sleep with aren't pussies. hot intelligent women who make sure that the guys they sleep with aren't pussies => manipulative women with self confidence issues my advice => dont play their games. love comes from honesty and trust. and with love amazing sex.
Manipulative women with confidence issues.. I think you need stop watching Hugh Grant movies.
That's nothing more than a rationalisation. Women with low self esteem are far easier to bed than those with self confidence. Women who test mens resolve to make sure they don't give up at the first sign of a little resistance are not manipulative at all, and certainly do not have self esteem issues. That's a misogynistic view.
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On September 13 2013 02:03 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 01:39 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:59 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:55 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:46 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:41 aTnClouD wrote:
The amount of bigotry and aggressiveness of incompetent and uneducated people in this thread is never disappointing. I suggest to take things further when both like each other and some random dude screams rape wtf? Somebody has to make the first move and most girls are afraid or scared to do so. It's very easy to understand when they want you to as they keep sending signals they like you and when they want you to stop and shut you down. Only a complete retard is unaware of body language and bases his interaction on words alone.
And yes I'm dating a 17 yo girl at the moment and I really like her. I don't judge people by age and she's mature enough to be with me. People arguing about age without knowing the person are pretty dumb, but that should come without saying. well he described the signals as wanting to take it slow and you said what she says and what she wants are different. have sex with her. pretty sure you weren't calling him a retard unless he realized she wanted his dick but it's hard to follow. You said your immature emo girlfriend cuts her wrists when her parents don't let her go out with you. If she likes him he should try to have sex with her asap or he will lose her to someone else who will make a move when she's horny. That's what human beings who are attracted to each other do. And I've been suicidal and depressed too when I was in high school and I understand it. Happens when you have to obey a strict family that will not allow you to be happy and it doesn't make you unworthy of anything. I think your advice is more applicable to the animal kingdom. And you said it was cause she was spoiled. Humans are mammals and belong to the animal kingdom. Sure we have the neocortex and reason but our urges are very similar to the ones of other animals. People who don't believe so are basically saying a big fuck you to scientific research. edit: nerchio giving advice on happiness and how to handle people made me chuckle really hard :D My point was just that humans are capable of making romantic decisions based off of more than fuck her now so someone else doesn't and also that no doesn't mean try harder. I don't think that the original question poster is a retard for not reading that from their body language.
I was saying only a retard wouldn't be able to recognize when he's pushing too far and is raping a woman and when it's a consensual sexual encounter. And the only reason I said that is that clueless mysoginist fake feminist white knights like to call rape to defend their flawed logic instead of realizing women are sexual as much as men and they want sex and use it to bond emotionally way more than we do.
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Alright guys I actually need some help. Theres this girl I think likes me but I don't like her. Its really complicated but she just texted me asking me if I want to know if she likes me or not. I don't really know what to do without sounding like a dick. I just want to be friends. On the other hand if she doesn't like me i'll look even more like a dick. i need help guise.
pls
tldr: friendzoned girl, girl is asking me if I want to know if she likes me.
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You already said the magic words; just say "I thought we were just friends?"
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On September 13 2013 02:49 farvacola wrote:
You already said the magic words; just say "I thought we were just friends?"
Her exact question is:
But do you want to know?
How the fuck do I answer that?
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On September 13 2013 02:47 KaiserKieran wrote:
Alright guys I actually need some help. Theres this girl I think likes me but I don't like her. Its really complicated but she just texted me asking me if I want to know if she likes me or not. I don't really know what to do without sounding like a dick. I just want to be friends. On the other hand if she doesn't like me i'll look even more like a dick. i need help guise.
pls
tldr: friendzoned girl, girl is asking me if I want to know if she likes me.
It's a tough spot. Imagine if the same thing happened to you from her perspective and how bad it would feel. Try to be as gentle as possible but be clear about your intentions.
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broke up with my girlfriend of about a year just recently. honestly don't feel as bummed as i should, so i expect it was for the best of us both. too many irreconcilable differences between us. who's my next victim? FARVA?
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On September 13 2013 02:51 KaiserKieran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:49 farvacola wrote:
You already said the magic words; just say "I thought we were just friends?" Her exact question is: But do you want to know? How the fuck do I answer that?
Well since you don't want to be a dick about it, just be honest. Say that you do want to know, as it sounds like you value her friendship, and then say that you aren't looking to date around right now.
On September 13 2013 02:52 Mortal wrote:
broke up with my girlfriend of about a year just recently. honestly don't feel as bummed as i should, so i expect it was for the best of us both. too many irreconcilable differences between us. who's my next victim? FARVA?
:D, if you come round Seattle ill be your wingman dawg.
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Just say: "I already know. We like each other, and that is why we are such good friends. And to me, the way we like each other is very important to me and I wish it won't change."
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On September 13 2013 02:52 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:47 KaiserKieran wrote:
Alright guys I actually need some help. Theres this girl I think likes me but I don't like her. Its really complicated but she just texted me asking me if I want to know if she likes me or not. I don't really know what to do without sounding like a dick. I just want to be friends. On the other hand if she doesn't like me i'll look even more like a dick. i need help guise.
pls
tldr: friendzoned girl, girl is asking me if I want to know if she likes me. It's a tough spot. Imagine if the same thing happened to you from her perspective and how bad it would feel. Try to be as gentle as possible but be clear about your intentions.
Should I ask like "why do you want to tell me?"
It seems like im gonna look like a dick either way.
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On September 13 2013 02:43 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:03 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 01:39 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:59 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:55 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 00:46 ComaDose wrote:On September 13 2013 00:41 aTnClouD wrote:
The amount of bigotry and aggressiveness of incompetent and uneducated people in this thread is never disappointing. I suggest to take things further when both like each other and some random dude screams rape wtf? Somebody has to make the first move and most girls are afraid or scared to do so. It's very easy to understand when they want you to as they keep sending signals they like you and when they want you to stop and shut you down. Only a complete retard is unaware of body language and bases his interaction on words alone.
And yes I'm dating a 17 yo girl at the moment and I really like her. I don't judge people by age and she's mature enough to be with me. People arguing about age without knowing the person are pretty dumb, but that should come without saying. well he described the signals as wanting to take it slow and you said what she says and what she wants are different. have sex with her. pretty sure you weren't calling him a retard unless he realized she wanted his dick but it's hard to follow. You said your immature emo girlfriend cuts her wrists when her parents don't let her go out with you. If she likes him he should try to have sex with her asap or he will lose her to someone else who will make a move when she's horny. That's what human beings who are attracted to each other do. And I've been suicidal and depressed too when I was in high school and I understand it. Happens when you have to obey a strict family that will not allow you to be happy and it doesn't make you unworthy of anything. I think your advice is more applicable to the animal kingdom. And you said it was cause she was spoiled. Humans are mammals and belong to the animal kingdom. Sure we have the neocortex and reason but our urges are very similar to the ones of other animals. People who don't believe so are basically saying a big fuck you to scientific research. edit: nerchio giving advice on happiness and how to handle people made me chuckle really hard :D My point was just that humans are capable of making romantic decisions based off of more than fuck her now so someone else doesn't and also that no doesn't mean try harder. I don't think that the original question poster is a retard for not reading that from their body language. I was saying only a retard wouldn't be able to recognize when he's pushing too far and is raping a woman and when it's a consensual sexual encounter. And the only reason I said that is that clueless mysoginist fake feminist white knights like to call rape to defend their flawed logic instead of realizing women are sexual as much as men and they want sex and use it to bond emotionally way more than we do.
well we agree that you would have to be stupid to rape someone.
i guess your problem is with no means no?
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My best friend's girl wants to introduce me to a super cute Dutch girl who's living here for a while and might stay for good. Wish me luck because holy fuck. QT.
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On September 13 2013 02:53 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:51 KaiserKieran wrote:On September 13 2013 02:49 farvacola wrote:
You already said the magic words; just say "I thought we were just friends?" Her exact question is: But do you want to know? How the fuck do I answer that? Well since you don't want to be a dick about it, just be honest. Say that you do want to know, as it sounds like you value her friendship, and then say that you aren't looking to date around right now. Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:52 Mortal wrote:
broke up with my girlfriend of about a year just recently. honestly don't feel as bummed as i should, so i expect it was for the best of us both. too many irreconcilable differences between us. who's my next victim? FARVA? :D, if you come round Seattle ill be your wingman dawg.
how's about you swing your way down to Portland?
actually no, I'll make the drive.
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On September 13 2013 02:56 KaiserKieran wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 02:52 aTnClouD wrote:On September 13 2013 02:47 KaiserKieran wrote:
Alright guys I actually need some help. Theres this girl I think likes me but I don't like her. Its really complicated but she just texted me asking me if I want to know if she likes me or not. I don't really know what to do without sounding like a dick. I just want to be friends. On the other hand if she doesn't like me i'll look even more like a dick. i need help guise.
pls
tldr: friendzoned girl, girl is asking me if I want to know if she likes me. It's a tough spot. Imagine if the same thing happened to you from her perspective and how bad it would feel. Try to be as gentle as possible but be clear about your intentions. Should I ask like "why do you want to tell me?" It seems like im gonna look like a dick either way.
Well you know her better than me so you should know how to phrase it. Keep in mind if you say something like "I just like you as a friend" you will be honest but chances are she will want you even more. You are going to break her feelings and expectations anyway and you won't look like a dick if you are honest to her.
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