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kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
October 02 2011 16:25 GMT
#101
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.


That's probably one of the most ignorant things said in this thread. Americans are exposed to it, you aren't. You see some stupid 20 minute video and go "Huh, they just like to party! No big deal."

Come live with these inbred idiots for a few years, you'll understand. You must have missed the guy who said "I'M INSANE, I LIKE TO STAB PEOPLE." They're fucking idiots.
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
October 02 2011 16:26 GMT
#102
As an American I'm ashamed of these types of people. I really don't know why you need to be / act like that...



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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 02 2011 16:27 GMT
#103
On October 03 2011 01:11 sandg wrote:
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On October 03 2011 00:58 RonNation wrote:
from personal experience juggalos are the scum of society

from personal experience, the scum of society are the only people worth a damn. Most streetwalking hookers and crackhead junkies I've met are by far better people than say, most of the airheads at my prestigious university (by this country's standards), or the members of the sailing club I used to work at where membership cost $100,000 a year, who were actually the most disgusting people I've met in my life.

Or maybe you should look in the middle for the people worth a damn. Hookers and crackheads might be in some case better people than selfish rich pricks or pseudo-intellectual posers at universities, but if that is the best you can find I would pity the society you live in. But in reality you are just ignoring the majority of the population that is actually worth a damn as you put it. All the people that actually work for living, live reasonably good lives, contribute (netto) to society one way or another. Those people, you know.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18870 Posts
October 02 2011 16:28 GMT
#104
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.

Have you ever seen an obese, pregnant clown too floored from her sherm cigarettes to walk look on as her three children, also in clown make-up, bathe in orange faygo? Again, it's blatantly obvious you have no actual knowledge of these people. I myself have dabbled in the illicit businesses and have dealt with a wide array of less than savory characters (I've lost some close friends to heroin addiction) and the Juggalos are a class unto themselves.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
CactusSC2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
October 02 2011 16:30 GMT
#105
Who are these people bothering? They have a need to belong, so they find people with common interests... Reminds me of everyone else ever... Are you not allowed to make friends unless your IQ is >140?
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due."
GypsyBeast
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 17:04:17
October 02 2011 16:30 GMT
#106
i have gotten into 3 fights with juaggalos, they are very agery people man. luckly for me they are usally in very poor shape :p

hahaha oh wow! these people are ridiculous i found it super funny when that one guy was talking about how they can party and still have control when he was standing by that naked trailer baby.

lol at 21:10 "its about true ninjahood" wtf is ninjahood?
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CactusSC2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
October 02 2011 16:31 GMT
#107
On October 03 2011 01:28 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.

Have you ever seen an obese, pregnant clown too floored from her sherm cigarettes to walk look on as her three children, also in clown make-up, bathe in orange faygo? Again, it's blatantly obvious you have no actual knowledge of these people. I myself have dabbled in the illicit businesses and have dealt with a wide array of less than savory characters (I've lost some close friends to heroin addiction) and the Juggalos are a class unto themselves.


Bad parenting is hardly exclusive to these people...
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due."
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 16:32 GMT
#108
On October 03 2011 01:25 kammeyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.


That's probably one of the most ignorant things said in this thread. Americans are exposed to it, you aren't. You see some stupid 20 minute video and go "Huh, they just like to party! No big deal."

Come live with these inbred idiots for a few years, you'll understand. You must have missed the guy who said "I'M INSANE, I LIKE TO STAB PEOPLE." They're fucking idiots.

People like this aren't a unique case, the only thing unique here is their terrible taste in music, and the fact many of them are white trash (who would stab someone whether they were a juggalo or not). Like I said earlier in this thread, remove the fat ugly people and replace the music with happy hardcore or psytrance and you have an event that happens everywhere in the world. Every event like this has people who are too far gone/drugfucked to make a contribution even amongst their crazy subculture. I'm sure most people would have been keeping their distance from that guy.
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 16:34 GMT
#109
On October 03 2011 01:28 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.

Have you ever seen an obese, pregnant clown too floored from her sherm cigarettes to walk look on as her three children, also in clown make-up, bathe in orange faygo? Again, it's blatantly obvious you have no actual knowledge of these people. I myself have dabbled in the illicit businesses and have dealt with a wide array of less than savory characters (I've lost some close friends to heroin addiction) and the Juggalos are a class unto themselves.

Nope, we don't have juggalos here, but I have seen the same thing (and much worse) from people who weren't wearing clown makeup.
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18870 Posts
October 02 2011 16:38 GMT
#110
On October 03 2011 01:31 CactusSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:28 farvacola wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.

Have you ever seen an obese, pregnant clown too floored from her sherm cigarettes to walk look on as her three children, also in clown make-up, bathe in orange faygo? Again, it's blatantly obvious you have no actual knowledge of these people. I myself have dabbled in the illicit businesses and have dealt with a wide array of less than savory characters (I've lost some close friends to heroin addiction) and the Juggalos are a class unto themselves.


Bad parenting is hardly exclusive to these people...

All I can say to that is LOL, and as to your earlier post, here is yet another anecdote from someone who has ACTUALLY dealt with these people. Back in 05, I was a part of the DIY punk scene here in Ohio, and one night, we organized a local show that showed promise to be one of the biggest and most successful concerts in a long time. Lo and behold, Twiztid and a bunch of other ICP bands had the venue across the street that night, and we could not help but be quite worried (ICP fans are notorious for disrupting the concerts of other bands). After our opening act, about 200 or so people went outside for fresh air and cigarettes, only to be bombarded by faygo 3 liters being launched out of some sort of catapult by the clowns across the way, in addition to bits of trash, cans, and even glass bottles. It didn't take long for the punks to organize, and about 300 or so scene kids invaded the juggalo concert, and proceeded to shut down the 500 person event with overwhelming force. Sure, a fair number of people were arrested on both sides, and retaliation in this case may not have been the smartest idea, but the point is that these people are not content to live and let be, they make it their job to disrupt the lives of everyone around them.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 02 2011 16:39 GMT
#111
why is everyone there extremely fat (mostly) or extremely skinny? And is it southern thing?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 02 2011 16:40 GMT
#112
LOL reminds me of going to high school in rural Michigan.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
October 02 2011 16:41 GMT
#113
On October 03 2011 01:39 ondik wrote:
why is everyone there extremely fat (mostly) or extremely skinny? And is it southern thing?

This isn't a southern phenomena, but a country-wide one.
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CactusSC2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States61 Posts
October 02 2011 16:42 GMT
#114
On October 03 2011 01:38 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:31 CactusSC2 wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:28 farvacola wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:22 sandg wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:17 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:15 farvacola wrote:
All these people defending Juggalo society clearly have never interacted with these people before, and I can 100% guarantee that after a single, minute long conversation with a clown-faced POS about Orange Faygo and how awesome PCP is ones opinion would change in a heartbeat. These are the lowest of the low, with pregnant juggalettes getting wasted and smoking cigs while their less pregnant but no less distended fellow women clowns offering their titties for cents on the dollar. Here in the midwest (I live in Ohio) they are regarded with outright dismay, considering that they leave a trail of trash and sticky faygo residue wherever they go. Seriously, y'all talking out of your asses about these people and defending their trashy culture have no clue.


Most of the people who are commenting about it and how it's fine aren't even from the U.S. ;P

I think that says more about americans than it does about the people commenting from elsewhere.

Have you ever seen an obese, pregnant clown too floored from her sherm cigarettes to walk look on as her three children, also in clown make-up, bathe in orange faygo? Again, it's blatantly obvious you have no actual knowledge of these people. I myself have dabbled in the illicit businesses and have dealt with a wide array of less than savory characters (I've lost some close friends to heroin addiction) and the Juggalos are a class unto themselves.


Bad parenting is hardly exclusive to these people...

All I can say to that is LOL, and as to your earlier post, here is yet another anecdote from someone who has ACTUALLY dealt with these people. Back in 05, I was a part of the DIY punk scene here in Ohio, and one night, we organized a local show that showed promise to be one of the biggest and most successful concerts in a long time. Lo and behold, Twiztid and a bunch of other ICP bands had the venue across the street that night, and we could not help but be quite worried (ICP fans are notorious for disrupting the concerts of other bands). After our opening act, about 200 or so people went outside for fresh air and cigarettes, only to be bombarded by faygo 3 liters being launched out of some sort of catapult by the clowns across the way, in addition to bits of trash, cans, and even glass bottles. It didn't take long for the punks to organize, and about 300 or so scene kids invaded the juggalo concert, and proceeded to shut down the 500 person event with overwhelming force. Sure, a fair number of people were arrested on both sides, and retaliation in this case may not have been the smartest idea, but the point is that these people are not content to live and let be, they make it their job to disrupt the lives of everyone around them.



How did that make your point? Duelling concerts resulting in a raid by your side resulting in a huge fight and multiple arrests? And then you want to me read that your side is the good guys and the other side is the bad guys when I don't see any differences at all...
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods, and the season of mists; and may each and every one of us always give the devil his due."
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 02 2011 16:42 GMT
#115
On October 03 2011 01:41 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 01:39 ondik wrote:
why is everyone there extremely fat (mostly) or extremely skinny? And is it southern thing?

This isn't a southern phenomena, but a country-wide one.


I didn't mean the fat thing being southern if that's how you understood it lol.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
October 02 2011 16:43 GMT
#116
On October 02 2011 21:57 BlackJack wrote:
I don't see at all how they are celebrating stupidity. They are celebrating friendship, family, drugs, partying, etc. In fact a lot of the people interviewed talked about how people judge them and people think they are stupid. They welcome everybody, even straight edge people with jobs. They aren't celebrating the fact that they are morons, they are just morons.

A better example of celebrating anti-intellectualism is gangsta rap. It's practically required to have a certain level of street cred to be a gangsta rapper. That means that somebody that commits crimes and has been to prison is seen favorably over someone that grew up in the suburbs with 2 stable parents. But I can't blame them - nobody wants to see a spoiled rich could talking about surviving the hood. Although I have heard that Lil Jon grew up in a mansion to upper class parents. He also seemed fairly intelligent on The Apprentice. That means his persona of yelling YEAH and OKAY and sounding like an idiot is all an act. Now THAT's celebrating anti-intellectualism.


it's less like celebration and more like marketing. it's the same thing with being a juggalo.

this thread is amusing to me because, no offense to anyone in particular, i would call a lot of people... what's the best word here, internally timid i suppose... and many people in this thread whether viewing or posting are just as timid as those who wear the silly face paint, fear the struggle of learning, and band together with like minded individuals so they can feel comfortable about their insecurities rather than facing them. so to take the step of evaluating other timid people and to look down on them just seems like you're projecting.

and don't get me wrong, i've met many juggalos, i had a kind of subtle goth phase in middle school when i had a hard time adjusting to post-puberty and many of them are definitely borderline retarded. but that doesn't mean you get to stand on the pedestal and act like you aren't until you put yourself out there to be evaluated just the same.

the juggalo movement is just one version. people who prefer to lose their sanity because the real world is too complicated for them are all "celebrating anti-intellectualism" imo. get a grip on reality and stop hiding behind whatever mask you don. there's a lot of people attending the masquerade in this thread who have themselves convinced that they aren't just because their mask isn't clown-colored.
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
October 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#117
Terrifying...
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#118
I think the biggest issue is that they are just representing the extreme of the very big problem of the American society as a whole. Complete anti-intellectualism is pervasive through all of America's political process. Being intellectual is portrayed as negative (or at best useless) nearly everywhere. Starting with politics of course as this is the goal of this "movement" to make political process big media circus and voters easily manipulated by marketing techniques, but entertainment industry and journalism is used for that purpose also, to create negative stereotypes of intellectuals. The people from OP are just the extreme end of the spectrum and are somewhat less useful for those in power than those not so far gone, but still more useful than people who actually value knowledge, skepticism and critical thinking.

Even worse this anti-intellectualism is starting to spread even elsewhere in the world with the spread of using marketing techniques in political campaigns in other countries.
R4TM
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil140 Posts
October 02 2011 16:45 GMT
#119
thats alot of "fucking" and "mother fucker" for my day.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
October 02 2011 16:47 GMT
#120
"It's about true, true straight fuckin', trustworthy ninjahood right here man"

Can anyone really take that seriously?
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