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zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
October 02 2011 13:07 GMT
#41
So the documentary basically deals with people that are either high of their asses.
Also is it just me or am i the only one bothered by them using the word "Fuck" as every second word?
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
October 02 2011 13:09 GMT
#42
The thing is, Insane Clown Posse was only really popular here with the trashiest, dumbest kids. I mean, look at that picture! Anyway, I just hope nobody characterizes America based on this because, my God lol, if so we're in trouble.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 02 2011 13:12 GMT
#43
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

not surprised at all at this.

And no, it is completely ok for you to judge them for celebrating stupidity. If you cant judge people for being willingly *insert negative characteristic*, when would anyone be allowed to judge anything?


Obviously they don't think it's a negative characteristic.

Judging people is useless anyways as there are no universal rules for what's good and bad, just people and their opinions.
I think esports is pretty nice.
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 13:12 GMT
#44
On October 02 2011 22:09 Rybka wrote:
The thing is, Insane Clown Posse was only really popular here with the trashiest, dumbest kids. I mean, look at that picture! Anyway, I just hope nobody characterizes America based on this because, my God lol, if so we're in trouble.

lol, if americans were characterised as party time and trippin balls and takin pills, I'd have way more respect for them.
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 02 2011 13:13 GMT
#45
This is what happens when you analyze the extreme end of any fanbase, religion, community etc.
We make signature, then defense it.
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
October 02 2011 13:14 GMT
#46
On October 02 2011 22:12 sandg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 22:09 Rybka wrote:
The thing is, Insane Clown Posse was only really popular here with the trashiest, dumbest kids. I mean, look at that picture! Anyway, I just hope nobody characterizes America based on this because, my God lol, if so we're in trouble.

lol, if americans were characterised as party time and trippin balls and takin pills, I'd have way more respect for them.

LOL!
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 02 2011 13:25 GMT
#47
On October 02 2011 22:12 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

not surprised at all at this.

And no, it is completely ok for you to judge them for celebrating stupidity. If you cant judge people for being willingly *insert negative characteristic*, when would anyone be allowed to judge anything?


Obviously they don't think it's a negative characteristic.

Judging people is useless anyways as there are no universal rules for what's good and bad, just people and their opinions.


There may be no universal rules, but some opinions tend to be universally better than the others.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
October 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#48
On October 02 2011 22:25 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 22:12 Saechiis wrote:
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

not surprised at all at this.

And no, it is completely ok for you to judge them for celebrating stupidity. If you cant judge people for being willingly *insert negative characteristic*, when would anyone be allowed to judge anything?


Obviously they don't think it's a negative characteristic.

Judging people is useless anyways as there are no universal rules for what's good and bad, just people and their opinions.


There may be no universal rules, but some opinions tend to be universally better than the others.


That made no sense sorry bro
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
October 02 2011 13:34 GMT
#49
On October 02 2011 21:25 Angra wrote:
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On October 02 2011 21:22 Defeat wrote:
On October 02 2011 21:16 BrTarolg wrote:
I love how a niche site like TL which generally contains a subculture which is ostracised by a large portion of regular society is able to perform the exact same feat on other societies too

Except the people who make up the TL "subculture" are generally more intelligent than the large portion of society. Where as the current society this thread is about is about being anti-intelligent.


I'm sure that's what every subculture thinks of itself. TL isn't more intelligent than the average society, it's just easier to find more intelligent people within the community because of the fact that it's a large population on the internet that promotes intelligence at its forefront, and therefore is able to filter through many people extremely rapidly until it brings out the intelligent ones.


Intelligent people in TL? Care to explain?
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 02 2011 13:36 GMT
#50
On October 02 2011 21:24 spacemonkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 21:21 Supamang wrote:
On October 02 2011 21:16 BrTarolg wrote:
I love how a niche site like TL which generally contains a subculture which is ostracised by a large portion of regular society is able to perform the exact same feat on other societies too

First, this happens all the time. You see minorities being racist towards other minorities in the USA all the time. Yes of course that doesnt make it necessarily "ok", but it shouldnt come as a surprise.

Second, are you a juggalo? Because if juggalos are celebrating anti-intellectualism, then that group is worthy of our disdain and I cant see why anyone would defend them unless they were a part of that group. Its like trying to be understanding of a culture that practices female genital mutilation.


Whilst I don't like the idea of people celebrating the fact they are dumb, people have the right to live however they like and really if they are doing no harm to others/ earn a living and serve a function in society really they can act as stupid as they like. It seems though that most people in this video would be drop kicks though (hard to say though if you watch all the interviews). Comparing it to female genital mutilation is an odd parallel that I don't think fits to well.

Yea it was a little hyperbolic. I shouldnt have used an example that literally involves hurting other people. If they truly arent harming others then I dont really see a problem with "live and let live"

If their ideas are spreading though, thats another story
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
October 02 2011 13:37 GMT
#51
I find this more normal than Scrubs or people who like vampire stuff like Trueblood/vampirediaries. Although still completely dumb.
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Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 02 2011 13:41 GMT
#52
On October 02 2011 22:12 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

not surprised at all at this.

And no, it is completely ok for you to judge them for celebrating stupidity. If you cant judge people for being willingly *insert negative characteristic*, when would anyone be allowed to judge anything?


Obviously they don't think it's a negative characteristic.

Judging people is useless anyways as there are no universal rules for what's good and bad, just people and their opinions.

How is judging people useless? Unless you want to get all existential and goin on about how "we all die in the end" or "were all just specks in the universe" or whatever, I really think that judging people and characteristics is very useful when it comes to improving society and benefiting human kind.

Science and intellectualism has helped increase the quality and length of the average human life. ICPs lyrics "And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist. Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed" goes directly against the very thing that has benefited us. I judge their willful ignorance to be detrimental to society. How is that wrong?
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 13:43 GMT
#53
On October 02 2011 21:21 Supamang wrote:

Yea it was a little hyperbolic. I shouldnt have used an example that literally involves hurting other people. If they truly arent harming others then I dont really see a problem with "live and let live"

If their ideas are spreading though, thats another story

It's no new idea, this is basically just smaller scale, poor white trash version of drug subcultures worldwide, e.g. your own burning man festival, defqon in europe, rainbow serpent in australia.
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
October 02 2011 13:43 GMT
#54
I try not to judge but this makes me uncomfortable.
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 13:47:16
October 02 2011 13:47 GMT
#55
hahaha, always thought that ICP is for redneck's that got introduced to rap :D
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
October 02 2011 13:54 GMT
#56
On October 02 2011 22:43 sandg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 21:21 Supamang wrote:

Yea it was a little hyperbolic. I shouldnt have used an example that literally involves hurting other people. If they truly arent harming others then I dont really see a problem with "live and let live"

If their ideas are spreading though, thats another story

It's no new idea, this is basically just smaller scale, poor white trash version of drug subcultures worldwide, e.g. your own burning man festival, defqon in europe, rainbow serpent in australia.


Yea, i don't feel like this is really a huge deal. It's been around forever in some form or another.

I feel like there are a lot of people out there who don't care about things enough to educate themselves, and they'll kind of band together as sort of an anti crowd to the well educated, but it's nothing new.

Like someone else said earlier, ICP was basically rap for rednecks.
moose...indian
Setev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Malaysia390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 14:06:44
October 02 2011 14:06 GMT
#57
On October 02 2011 21:16 BrTarolg wrote:
I love how a niche site like TL which generally contains a subculture which is ostracised by a large portion of regular society is able to perform the exact same feat on other societies too


TL is about gaming. Gaming subculture is NOT ostracised by the regular society. Unless you come from some third world country who can't afford basic facilities like the Internet and IT stuff.

Stop arguing for argument's sake.
I'm the King Of Nerds
Darkalbino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia410 Posts
October 02 2011 14:10 GMT
#58
22:08 .. thats like a 9/10 there... dayum

well, there was actually a guy near the beginning who was quite articulate. And the guy going on about his liver said probably the most true thing that can be said about living life to the fullest.
"I edited it"
faintz
Profile Joined June 2010
United States47 Posts
October 02 2011 14:21 GMT
#59
The music is for white-trash, fat, redneck, and stupid people. Every single "juggalo" fits at least two of these. I'd love to know how many people at that 3 day concert were educated.

Take it from an american who grew up in school knowing some of these types. We hate them just as much as the rest of the world does.
sandg
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia123 Posts
October 02 2011 14:25 GMT
#60
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
How is judging people useless? Unless you want to get all existential and goin on about how "we all die in the end" or "were all just specks in the universe" or whatever, I really think that judging people and characteristics is very useful when it comes to improving society and benefiting human kind.

Science and intellectualism has helped increase the quality and length of the average human life. ICPs lyrics "And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist. Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed" goes directly against the very thing that has benefited us. I judge their willful ignorance to be detrimental to society. How is that wrong?

Completely wrong. Any judgment is completely worthless and irrelevant if you haven't tried walking a mile in the shoes of whoever you are judging, or at least considered it. It is due to your way of thinking that there is hate and war in the world. Case in point: you obviously haven't even watched the video in the OP, yet you had time to look up some lyrics. Science and intellectualism hasn't increased the quality of your life, it looks like.
The mind is capable of anything, because everything is in it.
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