On October 03 2011 02:38 scorch- wrote: what's funny is that 99% of the people that laughed at that "magnets, how do they work" line actually don't know how magnets work.
Any normal person who doesn't know most likely just doesn't remember details of magnets that you learn in fucking early elementry school.
people learn what the effects of magnets are..
not how they work because thats Quantum mechanics and i don't think people learn that in elmentary school. i din't learn the physics till today even while studying electrical engineering... just the effects of magnets.
sad that even juggalos seem to understand more of the world than the "educated" in this forum.
This. Unless you're a physicist, don't try to act like you understand the properties of magnetic fields (or whatever it is that cause magnets to work, I'm just a mathematician).
No, you are missing the whole point. The point is that they sing about not wanting to know how the world works, it doesnt matter if its magnets or airplanes. Thats the anti-intellectualism we're discussing.
I don't even like ICP, but let's sit down and decipher the lyrics of their song 'Miracle.' From the title of the song, one can already surmise the premise of the tune. A miracle is a great blessing, a joy to behold. 'We got a theory, see like, we got a theory about magic and miracles. That’s right… If magic is all we ever known then it’s easy to miss what really goes on, but I have seen miracles in every way and it have seen miracles every day, Oceans spanding beyond my site, and a million stars way above em at night, we don’t have to be high to look in the sky, and know that is a miracle open wide. Look at the mountains trees the seven seas, and everything chillin under water please, hot lava, snow, rain and fog, long neck giraffes, pet cats and dogs. I have seen 85 thousand people all in one room together as equal, pure magic is the birth of my kids I’ve seen shit that shock your eyelids, the sun and the moon even mars the milky way fuckin shooting starts, ufo’s, a river flows, plant a little seed and nature grows, Niagara falls and the pyramids, everything you believed in as kids, fuckin rainbows after it rains, there’s enough miracles here to blow your brain, I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away, and music is magic pure and clean you feel it you can hear it and it can’t be seen. '
Well it's obvious from this passage that they see the beauty in life; the 'miracle' in their existence. These miracles fascinate to no end; they claim no knowledge of how these miracles work (unlike some of the posters here), but instead revel in the fact that they have the fortune of experiencing it at all in the first place.
'Are you a believer in miracles? (Music it’s all magic, you can’t even hold it) Do you notice and recognize miracles? It’s just there in the air, are you a believer in miracles? (Pure motherfucking magic, this shit will blow your MF mind.) Music is a lot like love, it’s all a feeling and it feels the room from the floor to the ceiling, I’ve seen miracles all around me, stop and look around its all astounding, water, fire air and dirt, fucking magnets, how do they work? I don’t want to talk to a scientist, ya’ll MF lying and getting me pissed, solar eclipse and vicious weather, 15,000 Juggalos together and I love my mom for giving me this time on this planet, take nothing for granted, I seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly, miracles aint nothing to lye, shaggys little boys look just like shaggy and my little boy looks just like daddy, miracles each and everywhere you look and nobody has to stay where they put, this world is yours for you to explore, it’s nothing but miracles beyond your doors, the dark carnival is your invitation, to witness that of there our explanation, take a look at this fine creation and enjoy it better with appreciation, crows ghosts, the midnight coasts, the wonders of the world, mysteries, the most. Just open your mind and in no way to ignore the miracles of everyday, that’s real. Are you a believer in miracles? (Magic every in this bitch, it’s all around you and you don’t even know it.) Do you notice and recognize miracles? It’s just there in the air, are you a believer in miracles? (Pure motherfucking magic, this shit will blow your MF mind.)'
This passage is the same feeling really; the feeling of love and joy found in everyday life. The only line that makes me roll my eyes is 'I don't want to talk to a scientist.' Many scientists chose their profession for the exact reason these writers love life; they see how extraordinary our universe is and wish to know more. Of course, the more one learns, the less one understands, but that's a whole different tangent.
On October 07 2011 01:31 Assymptotic wrote: I've lived in California for all of my 21 years and I've never met a self-proclaimed juggalo. To all the people who've things along the lines of '...my high school was filled with juggalos,' I'd like to know where you guys went to school.
Fargo north dakota?
I wouldn't say we had a ton my age though. I graduated in 06 and I would say most Juggalos I met were when I worked at McDonalds and were 4-6 years older.
This is the wonderful thing about America. You are entitled to your stupid beliefs up until the point where they start interfering with other people's lives. That said, as long as they aren't taking an aggressive posture in their anti-intellectualism(like picking on smart people), then what they are doing isn't stupid (as far as beliefs go). Those of lesser intellects should not be picked on for having said problem, nor should they be ashamed of it. It's just the way they are.
The interview on the O'Reily factor is interesting. Like it or not they are role models to their followers. Sure you can't program them by simply saying go smoke something but people/kids are impressionable and if enough people around them keep saying its ok to do drugs/commit crime they will accept it. Just weird, why you even bother saying that to a kid.
If the meme "What is this I don't even.." has ever been applicable this would have to be the most approriate time for it. But my god, I can't even like...wtf.
I'm all for free speech, but what the hell. Like my god. I have to think about this
So, I tried to watch as much of the documentary as I could, but I couldn't make it past the part where the guy drops the f-bomb more often than most teenagers say "like" or "um". From what I could tell, all of these juggalos seem to think that being a juggalo means doing whatever you want and not caring about the consequences of what they do. To me, think is a fairly horrible outlook on life, and won't get them into anything worthwhile for society, and unfortunately they don't care about anything at all.
On October 30 2011 13:41 Hailene wrote: So, I tried to watch as much of the documentary as I could, but I couldn't make it past the part where the guy drops the f-bomb more often than most teenagers say "like" or "um". From what I could tell, all of these juggalos seem to think that being a juggalo means doing whatever you want and not caring about the consequences of what they do. To me, think is a fairly horrible outlook on life, and won't get them into anything worthwhile for society, and unfortunately they don't care about anything at all.
You missed something huge from that documentary.
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It's hard for a lot of us who are conditioned all of our lives with "societal" standards and such to really understand Juggalo society. Just because at face value, these people seem to be everything opposite of what we learn, we are quick to judge them.
The reality is that that majority of them hold values that we should all strive to hold. And if people don't really want to pay attention to the video to understand what those values are, then that's too bad.
I haven't really listened to ICP since I was in high school, so I wouldn't classify myself as a Juggalo. But damn would I love to live my life like a Juggalo at The Gathering of the Juggalos. To really feel as though I fit in, and that everyone around me accepts me. To feel content with where my life is at - enough that I can actually enjoy my hours of consciousness. I don't need to be a Juggalo to have those things, but they exemplify what it is to have an excellent life. I'm a little envious.
Never heard of this before, pretty interesting. I dont see why everybody has to hate on people who like to enjoy their lives. They might not be the smartest bunch, but at least they have found a way to be happy.
People who get together one weekend a year to forget their problems, enjoy life and not be judged by anybody for any reason? Sounds pretty awesome to me.
I've got nothing against gatherings, or their concerts, but their (I.C.P.) fans are almost always dumb individuals who don't realize that snorting coke and doing acid while talking shit to everyone they come in contact with isn't something that people appreciate.
Coming from a small town FULL of juggalos, I have no respect for the majority of them, although there have been a few individuals who are actually pretty nice (that being at most a tenth of the population). They show no respect to anyone, and obviously don't respect themselves if they do such stupid stuff all the time, and then whine and complain about people who judge them. Of course we're going to judge you if you're dumb enough to do such stupid things and then brag about them.
I have yet to see a juggalo on campus, and I'm quite happy about that.
I will admit though, when I heard that Tila Tequila got hit in the face with a brick, I did smile.
The way they describe being a juggalo sounds great and the fact that they're all about family is awesome, can't hold that against them at all but the way they (generally) go about it is what I don't agree with. My best friend is a bit of a juggalo but you'd hardly notice it. Still reps the tattoo and has a few juggalo friends but it seems he's kept all the good and none of the bad from it. The majority of juggalos I've met are disrespectful, always talking shit and wanting to fight people for no reason, usually dumb as hell and high at all times. That and all the gross girls showing their tits at their gathering and the pregnant girl smoking (and probably drunk) is a good comparison to most of the juggalos I've met in real life.
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