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On September 14 2011 20:39 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Thats quite a strong assertion, considering victims were judges back in the days when there wasnt society A lot of people will cry out in protest to this because of the arbitrary idea of "internet privacy", but what this guy did was far and beyond normal trolling. He was straight up harassing the victims and thats very punishable
No, what he was doing happens on the internet every day. Death threats, mocking the death of family members, etc. Every day. In fact I bet if I actively played SC2 and WoW for the next 10 days I would get one of those two per day at bare minimum.
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Someone made fun of someone else over the internet. What a shocking tragedy.
He went to jail for that? That's fucking ridiculous.
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Well I didnt realise "sending malicious communications" was a thing but I guess im relatively happy it is. What level does it have to be before its policed? Obviously this guy deserved it, im just curious about where the lines are drawn.
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On September 14 2011 20:38 HereticSaint wrote:Completely stupid and pointless case and a waste of money for everyone involved. This is the equivalent to prosecuting a random 14 year old girl for illegally downloading music, sure it stirs up some press and may make it into the paper but in the end it deters absolutely no one from doing said action because in the end they aren't going to go after everyone doing it and you are just as likely to win the lottery as you are to get prosecuted for it. As for the family and parents? They need to toughen up, I've had people comment about family members of mine that are dead probably thousands of times, you don't see me sitting in a courtroom every time that happens, even the especially bad times. Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:37 syno wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Yes. But just try to think like the mother/parents. Wouldnt you try everything to see this idiot paying for what he's done? Who cares what the mother wants, that has absolutely no relevance. I want a million dollars, I want idiots to die, I want to know how to pilot an F-16. What the hell is your point? Really?
You can drop the tough guy act. No one cares what you go through or how bad ass you think you are for toughing it out.
This is also the first time Ive ever seen someone compare a 14 year old stealing music to someone harassing the families of dead children
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On September 14 2011 20:42 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:38 HereticSaint wrote:Completely stupid and pointless case and a waste of money for everyone involved. This is the equivalent to prosecuting a random 14 year old girl for illegally downloading music, sure it stirs up some press and may make it into the paper but in the end it deters absolutely no one from doing said action because in the end they aren't going to go after everyone doing it and you are just as likely to win the lottery as you are to get prosecuted for it. As for the family and parents? They need to toughen up, I've had people comment about family members of mine that are dead probably thousands of times, you don't see me sitting in a courtroom every time that happens, even the especially bad times. On September 14 2011 20:37 syno wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Yes. But just try to think like the mother/parents. Wouldnt you try everything to see this idiot paying for what he's done? Who cares what the mother wants, that has absolutely no relevance. I want a million dollars, I want idiots to die, I want to know how to pilot an F-16. What the hell is your point? Really? You can drop the tough guy act. No one cares what you go through or how bad ass you think you are for toughing it out. This is also the first time Ive ever seen someone compare a 14 year old stealing music to someone harassing the families of dead children
And no one gives a shit how tough you are. Congratulations on completely overlooking everything I said because you are a big enough moron to think I'm acting like a hardass when I'm not.
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i should be shocked about this story but this is becoming usual nowadays...pretty sad...
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Looking at him, I can just tell that he is a loser at life and an ugly as fuck troll. I'm just filled with disgust, got this urge to do a flying kick at him~
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On September 14 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:39 Supamang wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Thats quite a strong assertion, considering victims were judges back in the days when there wasnt society A lot of people will cry out in protest to this because of the arbitrary idea of "internet privacy", but what this guy did was far and beyond normal trolling. He was straight up harassing the victims and thats very punishable No, what he was doing happens on the internet every day. Death threats, mocking the death of family members, etc. Every day. In fact I bet if I actively played SC2 and WoW for the next 10 days I would get one of those two per day at bare minimum.
Thats called internet rage. It happens once or twice, but you dont hear from the guy ever again after 10 minutes.
This guy repeatedly tried to contact the families with malicious intent.
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Yeah, I heard about some people on 4chan trying to get people to stick up for his 'rights'. What the guy did is wrong, not sure what would posses someone to take something like this so far. I'm glad they punished this dirtbag, if only for being a slap on the wrist.
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People should actually read the god damn article. This wasn't some dude that wrote a one-off comment like "lol derp she sux dix!!" on her tribute page. The shit that he posted was pretty sickening.
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Not sure how I feel about this. I wonder if the guy would have been given an equivalent punishment had he harassed the family in real life rather than through the internet. Something tells me no. Of course I have no idea to what degree he was harassing them, but if it was just general offensive material then the authorities shouldn't be involved at all. Telling someone their daughter sucked after she killed herself is a horrible thing to do for sure, but it's not illegal.
Edit: Hmm... I read the article and it seems some of the stuff he did was pretty horrible... But a criminal offence? I feel like this could have been easily resolved by the FB staff by simply IP banning him. His posts surely go against the terms and conditions of the site. I'm not comfortable with the idea that a few inappropriate comments can get you a jail sentence.
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On September 14 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:39 Supamang wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Thats quite a strong assertion, considering victims were judges back in the days when there wasnt society A lot of people will cry out in protest to this because of the arbitrary idea of "internet privacy", but what this guy did was far and beyond normal trolling. He was straight up harassing the victims and thats very punishable No, what he was doing happens on the internet every day. Death threats, mocking the death of family members, etc. Every day. In fact I bet if I actively played SC2 and WoW for the next 10 days I would get one of those two per day at bare minimum.
Saying "it happens a lot" is a poor argument. There is a lot of obvious illegal things that happens a lot, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong to convict him but I just hate people saying this over and over again, especially when it comes to online issues. I feel we should base our laws on what we deem as right or wrong, not what the police have resources to enforce.
Also I feel that people fail to take into account the whole picture. Harrassement is one obvious example of this. If you take a part out of a harrasemnt case it might not be illegal but as a whole it is.
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"So what are you in here for?"
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"Uhm...trolling the internet."
*GASP*
"Boys, what do we think of trolls?"
"WE HATE TROLLS!!"
"That's right, we HATE trolls. They ruin every good forum on the internet!"
Que beating.
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On September 14 2011 20:48 yandere991 wrote:
People should actually read the god damn article. This wasn't some dude that wrote a one-off comment like "lol derp she sux dix!!" on her tribute page. The shit that he posted was pretty sickening.
I personally find "Tasha the Tank Engine" pretty funny. It's in god awful, atrociously bad taste, but still...
EDIT: All depends on if the execution is as good as I'm imagining it.
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On September 14 2011 20:46 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:On September 14 2011 20:39 Supamang wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Thats quite a strong assertion, considering victims were judges back in the days when there wasnt society A lot of people will cry out in protest to this because of the arbitrary idea of "internet privacy", but what this guy did was far and beyond normal trolling. He was straight up harassing the victims and thats very punishable No, what he was doing happens on the internet every day. Death threats, mocking the death of family members, etc. Every day. In fact I bet if I actively played SC2 and WoW for the next 10 days I would get one of those two per day at bare minimum. Thats called internet rage. It happens once or twice, but you dont hear from the guy ever again after 10 minutes. This guy repeatedly tried to contact the families with malicious intent.
No, I have on more than one occasion been trolled consistently by people telling me I should die, commit suicide, made fun of dead family members for several weeks for beating them in Arenas in World of Warcraft. Yes, weeks, yes ignored them and they made new characters to continue to do this for hours and hours on end. Want to know the difference? You ban a Facebook account or whatever it at least takes 10-15 mins to make a new one with a new email and what have you, creating a new character in WoW takes about 5 seconds.
Now just so you don't misunderstand, I don't really care if you give a shit how I feel. The point is it happens, a lot.
On September 14 2011 20:49 gruff wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:On September 14 2011 20:39 Supamang wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Thats quite a strong assertion, considering victims were judges back in the days when there wasnt society A lot of people will cry out in protest to this because of the arbitrary idea of "internet privacy", but what this guy did was far and beyond normal trolling. He was straight up harassing the victims and thats very punishable No, what he was doing happens on the internet every day. Death threats, mocking the death of family members, etc. Every day. In fact I bet if I actively played SC2 and WoW for the next 10 days I would get one of those two per day at bare minimum. Saying "it happens a lot" is a poor argument. There is a lot of obvious illegal things that happens a lot, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to convict him but I just hate people saying this over and over again, especially when it comes to online issues. I feel we should base our laws on what we deem as right or wrong, not what the police have resources to enforce.
My point is, making an example of someone doesn't help on today's World. People generally know, either it's a big enough deal that things will consistently be done about it or it isn't. In this case it falls under the latter description, not because it's entirely unimportant necessarily, but because there are a thousand other, more important issues that aren't even fully under control.
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On September 14 2011 20:43 HereticSaint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 20:42 Supamang wrote:On September 14 2011 20:38 HereticSaint wrote:Completely stupid and pointless case and a waste of money for everyone involved. This is the equivalent to prosecuting a random 14 year old girl for illegally downloading music, sure it stirs up some press and may make it into the paper but in the end it deters absolutely no one from doing said action because in the end they aren't going to go after everyone doing it and you are just as likely to win the lottery as you are to get prosecuted for it. As for the family and parents? They need to toughen up, I've had people comment about family members of mine that are dead probably thousands of times, you don't see me sitting in a courtroom every time that happens, even the especially bad times. On September 14 2011 20:37 syno wrote:On September 14 2011 20:32 Sea_Food wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 syno wrote:
And if u were her mother, would u just ban him?
Wouldnt u prefer to see him in jail
If victims would be judges, the human race would have ended in extinction already. Yes. But just try to think like the mother/parents. Wouldnt you try everything to see this idiot paying for what he's done? Who cares what the mother wants, that has absolutely no relevance. I want a million dollars, I want idiots to die, I want to know how to pilot an F-16. What the hell is your point? Really? You can drop the tough guy act. No one cares what you go through or how bad ass you think you are for toughing it out. This is also the first time Ive ever seen someone compare a 14 year old stealing music to someone harassing the families of dead children And no one gives a shit how tough you are. Congratulations on completely overlooking everything I said because you are a big enough moron to think I'm acting like a hardass when I'm not.
lol i never tried to act like a hardass, why did you tell me that no one gives a shit how tough i am?
youre the one coming in here being all confrontational and spouting random shit about people making fun of your dead family members. you posted twice in a row about people making fun of your dead family members. i dont see how you feel that this is a common occurrence on the internet unless you go around advertising how you have dead family members online
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This is fucking awesome. Pay attention trolls, this could be you one day if you take it too far.
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Haha this is one of those times where the image of the perpetrator perfectly fits his description...
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Great news! God damn trolls..
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