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Ardhimas
Profile Joined March 2011
Indonesia75 Posts
September 06 2011 00:18 GMT
#1
Poll: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

Below average. (1139)
 
65%

Better than average. (325)
 
19%

Average, (287)
 
16%

1751 total votes

Your vote: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

(Vote): Better than average.
(Vote): Average,
(Vote): Below average.



I've always been curious about this, especially considering we are all starcraft players, meaning we would have good hand-eye coordination. Hand control however, is a different story. I have good hand eye coordination, but when it comes to writing I sometimes struggle to read some phrases I've written a few months before. One of my limiting factors in improvement is the fact that I can't click as precise as I often would, even if I know what to do.

What is it like with you guys? I'm sure you've had comments about your handwriting before, so you would know if it's good/average/bad.
"Damn, you are like a man-bear-girl with those hands." - Qzy
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:20:12
September 06 2011 00:19 GMT
#2
mine sucks, only legible to myself. then again, most people in the office are the same. lol
lol. i wasted my 6000th post on criticising my own handwriting. fail. ==
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 06 2011 00:20 GMT
#3
My handwriting is atrocious. Sometimes I can't even read something I've just written.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 06 2011 00:20 GMT
#4
mine is just awful.

in elementary schools teachers would freak out marking my stuff because of how messy it was. it's still messy though, but for most things in the world you don't even need to handwrite anymore and even if you do it's not like my writing is completely illegible.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
September 06 2011 00:20 GMT
#5
I've been complimented several times on it, but I very rarely write stuff by hand. Like 2-3 times a year I guess.

Pity, my one talent is going to waste.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
September 06 2011 00:21 GMT
#6
I need a way below average option.

If I try really hard I can right decently, but if you would have looked at my notepad when I was a waiter you would have thought it was a different language not using the english alphabet.
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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
September 06 2011 00:21 GMT
#7
I swear my handwriting hasn't changed since 3rd grade.
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duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
September 06 2011 00:22 GMT
#8
My handwriting is bad, but I can read it and I can write pretty fast so it's all I need.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 06 2011 00:22 GMT
#9
Voted average. Mine's definitely readable, but I never get comments about how great it is.
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#10
Terrible. My dad just made fun of my handwriting a week ago. It's probably on par with 4th grader most of the time, and it gets worse when I'm jotting down fast notes in class.
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
September 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#11
Really tiny, crammed together, and borderline illegible handwriting.
Eh, whatever.
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nougdp
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany144 Posts
September 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#12
Beside my autograph I handwrite like twice a year... so its a common problem, if you use your PC so much.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
September 06 2011 00:24 GMT
#13
Mine's so bad you literally need to decode it, thankfully everything's on computers these days.
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
September 06 2011 00:24 GMT
#14
Dip a spider in ink, let it walk over a page, *VOILA* my handwriting
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Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
September 06 2011 00:25 GMT
#15
My hand-writing is pretty bad. Nothing is consistent, but at the very least its readable. Though, if I do try to put in effort in my writing, it can come out a little nicer than usual.

Not really sure why that is.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
September 06 2011 00:26 GMT
#16
I am pretty much the only person that can decipher it.
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IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
September 06 2011 00:27 GMT
#17
I cannot hand write. I actually can barely even print. I've never really had a need for either, though.
JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
September 06 2011 00:27 GMT
#18
I do math pretty much all day and I find if I don't write neatly, I make mistakes. As such, my writing is pretty decent.
@JethroTV
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
September 06 2011 00:28 GMT
#19
When I write only for myself : barely legible, only readable if you're me honestly.

When I put in effort : pretty bad
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 06 2011 00:29 GMT
#20
Most of the time I can figure out what I wrote.
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Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
September 06 2011 00:29 GMT
#21
Where's the "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not an artist!" option?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:30:27
September 06 2011 00:29 GMT
#22
I have my moments, really! But mostly it's ugly as fuck and I struggle deciphering it myself at times, especially when I'm trying to write fast.
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CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 06 2011 00:30 GMT
#23
absolutely awful. Yet all my high school teachers could read it. Guess it just goes to show how bad some other peoples are lol.
.DrK
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:31:46
September 06 2011 00:31 GMT
#24
there are some people who say that i write very well and there are others who can't even read what i'm writing, but in terms of neatness, i think my handwriting is very good.

see for yourselves.
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(the bottom thing is my signature + initials so don't pay attention to it, it was to test my new tablet)
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
September 06 2011 00:31 GMT
#25
The whole reason why I started taking a laptop to class was because I myself couldn't understand my notes. Try to write too fast and you end up with nothing.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:33:42
September 06 2011 00:32 GMT
#26
There are 4 people in the world that I know that can decipher my handwriting completely other than me. Two are teachers, one is a person I work on homework with frequently (who also has kinda messy writing. Which is rare for girls. But she's going into med school so she's on the write track for that profession), and one of my friends. My math busy work can be neat if I want it to be (if it on an exam or if it is to be handed in), but my normal writing is abysmal. I type everything I can. Which is funny, because I suck at typing too (like 40 WPM, just sad for the amount of time I use computers).

I had numerous complaints about my handwriting back when I worked.
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
September 06 2011 00:32 GMT
#27
My friend thought i was writing in shorthand
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
September 06 2011 00:34 GMT
#28
Mine is pretty on and off, one day it will look fine and the next it just looks terrible.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
September 06 2011 00:34 GMT
#29
Everyone always compliments me on my handwriting so better than average it is
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McFortran
Profile Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
September 06 2011 00:34 GMT
#30
My handwriting looks like that of a 5 year old with poor motor skills. My math is quite beautiful though, except I have a tendency to write Greek letters backwards and all of my closed letters and numbers look the exact same (0,a,9,g,8,lowercase sigma...etc).
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:37:00
September 06 2011 00:34 GMT
#31
My teachers hate me.
I can nearly even study my own notes, at least my friends don't bug me for notes anymore lol.
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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
September 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#32
Legible - above average
Neatness - below average


I guess I'll put average as these cancel each other out.
Paragraphs written by me as a whole look so messy even though the individual letters are legible.
Ardhimas
Profile Joined March 2011
Indonesia75 Posts
September 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#33
Wow, I am among friends here xD

I see there must be a pattern between interest in Starcraft and handwriting ability. Well, good to know I'm not the only one. In fact:
On September 06 2011 09:31 ThaZenith wrote:
The whole reason why I started taking a laptop to class was because I myself couldn't understand my notes. Try to write too fast and you end up with nothing.

This wouldn't be any less true if it came out of my mouth.
"Damn, you are like a man-bear-girl with those hands." - Qzy
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
September 06 2011 00:36 GMT
#34
I have hardly written anything since the late 90's. I can't even read my own writing to be honest. Not that I care, that is what I have a laptop, PC and a smartphone for. I have zero need to write as an IT Manager.
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
September 06 2011 00:36 GMT
#35
Mine is probably one of the worst
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DrThorMD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada359 Posts
September 06 2011 00:36 GMT
#36
I love my own handwriting. It's slightly worst than my dads. And he's a doctor. Most people say my writing is terrible when I'm writing fast. It improves considerably when I'm actually concerned with neatness.
Damn your Chronoboosts!
Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 00:38:28
September 06 2011 00:37 GMT
#37
I've been complimented more times than I can count about my handwriting. I like to think it's a lefty thing =D

Edit* I'm either told my handwriting is "pretty" or I "write like a girl"
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 06 2011 00:38 GMT
#38
I voted better than average but that's because I like mine. Other people can't understand it, but I think it's because they are stupid.
NullYoung
Profile Joined September 2011
United States20 Posts
September 06 2011 00:44 GMT
#39
Awful... but at least I can usually read my own. And the rise of technology hasn't helped. There are rarely situations where I even need to hand write things anymore... gogo future!
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
September 06 2011 00:45 GMT
#40
It looks like I killed a bunch of big-legged spiders and glued them in a piece of paper, so it looks bad...
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 06 2011 00:46 GMT
#41
My writing used to be really good back in high school. Then I got into college and it went to shit trying to write on those tiny little auditorium desks and trying to keep up with the professors. Sigh.

It's improved since I've graduated, though.
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S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
September 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#42
If I try to write nicely and I take my time, it's decent I guess. I write quite fast though and because of that it's very, very sloppy. I try to type things as much as I can, but still being in high school there's a lot of stuff that I can't, which is unfortunate. The only time my handwriting is like average is if I'm doing math, lol.
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
September 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#43
It depends on who I'm writhing for. If I'm writing for myself, then......it's just awful.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
September 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#44
Pretty awful. Who writes anything these days? We have computers.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
September 06 2011 00:48 GMT
#45
Are most gamers bad at handwriting? Or are most gamers ashamed of their handwriting even though it actually is average?
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Kenshin_915
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada139 Posts
September 06 2011 00:48 GMT
#46
I would say mines average, and sometimes above average after I've been writing for awhile and get the flow going. I write in a sort of half cursive, half printing that's built for speed, so it can look like crap, but if I slow down it's pretty good.
TeaGreen
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada147 Posts
September 06 2011 00:49 GMT
#47
I almost always handwrite as in writing cursive, so in that sense my handwriting is above average. However if I print it's really really bad...numbers are fine though.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
September 06 2011 00:49 GMT
#48
My handwriting is utterly awful, always has been. I'm generally the only person that can read it unless I take extra special care.
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Nancial
Profile Joined July 2011
197 Posts
September 06 2011 00:50 GMT
#49
I've got a beautiful handwriting and it remains readable for anyone up to the point when I write almost a word per second( then it's readable, but not beautiful , coz i know which parts of every letter make it recognizeable and make accent on them ).
im pretty good at painting stuff for an amateur. guess that helps.
also i use very very FAT pens that almost swim on the paper. guess that helps
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
September 06 2011 00:52 GMT
#50
Mine is messy and overly large. I kind of wish I had better handwriting, but it is pretty hard to willfully change it.
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Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
September 06 2011 00:52 GMT
#51
Mine is horrible, and it got even worse because I didn't write anything for like 3 months during the summer
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 06 2011 00:53 GMT
#52
My handwriting barely qualifies as chicken scratch. My dad jokes that I should have been a doctor.
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#53
Mine's neat if you look at it sideways.
im deaf
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#54
mines legible, but you have to try. If i really care its pretty nice.
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cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#55
When I was a kid my father made me learn calligraphy during summer breaks because he thought my handwriting was horrible. >.<

I've forgotten most of it but I still have very nice handwriting. I always get complimented on it, which at times makes guys think I'm gay. :/
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#56
It is kinda absurd: 70% below average XD

gotta be a result of the sheer amount of manliness on TL.
Jeff11
Profile Joined May 2011
6 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#57
All of these people saying they have "below average" must not know what average handwriting looks like.

That being said, I still easily have the worst handwriting. I've seen people write better with their feet.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 06 2011 00:55 GMT
#58
My handwriting is awesome and very distinctive!
br3ak.g0d
Profile Joined September 2010
43 Posts
September 06 2011 00:56 GMT
#59
lol since almost everyone voted their own handwriting below average, wouldn't that make "below average" the new average?
Hipsv
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
135 Posts
September 06 2011 00:58 GMT
#60
Mine is Below Below Average, but I ripped tendons in my arm as a child which severely affected my writing ability so I guess I kinda have an excuse for writing like I'm in 5th grade.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
September 06 2011 00:58 GMT
#61
apparently, the average handwriting is below average. =p
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R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:01:33
September 06 2011 00:59 GMT
#62
My handwriting is terrible, especially when i'm writing quickly. I am also left handed which blows because everything smears so i've always hated writing and try to avoid it at all costs. If I can type instead I will do that 100% of the time. Not to mention typing is 1000% faster and always legible.

On September 06 2011 09:58 Railxp wrote:
apparently, the average handwriting is below average. =p

There arnt very many girls voting so naturally its going to be mostly under average xD
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Inferno272
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
September 06 2011 00:59 GMT
#63
hmm depends if i'm trying or not. my english is terrible cause i don't give a fuck, my mandarin is decent cause i take my time and anything else like numbers is also terrible.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 06 2011 00:59 GMT
#64
On September 06 2011 09:58 Railxp wrote:
apparently, the average handwriting is below average. =p

The average SC playing nerd compared to the general population, yeah.
Mine's below average. Some people say it's shit, some people say it would be readable if it were less tiny and cramped. Either way it's terrible.
lvlashimaro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States91 Posts
September 06 2011 01:00 GMT
#65
People say I write like an Asian girl. I blame this on my mom. When I was in 3rd grade, my handwriting was terrible. My mom would erase all my homework and make me start over if it wasn't neat, so I forced myself to have good handwriting. It was cruel and evil at the time, but it definitely pays off now in college when I have to look back on my notes for homework, midterms, and finals.

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arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
September 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#66
absolutely abysmal
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BlindSC2
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom435 Posts
September 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#67
If I need to write neatly I can - albeit slowly - but otherwise mine is only legible to myself, both in terms of the handwriting and I also use stupidly obscure abbreviations etc

When I look back at my notebook, it's easy to see how at the start of the year I was like 'mmk I'm gonna make it really neat so at the end of the year I can find all my revision stuff easy'

That happens for a few pages... and then eventually just turns into mindless scribbles of words taken out of context with doodles around the edge of the page

If you give me a sheet of graph paper, you can bet your ass I'm filling it in like a chess board


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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:01:59
September 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#68
People can read my writing, but no one would ever say it is pretty. It's probably just above the legible mark.
Finchy711
Profile Joined August 2011
United States48 Posts
September 06 2011 01:05 GMT
#69
Going to drop some handwriting knowledge on you guys.

Most people have bad handwriting because they are using the wrong muscles to write with. Most people use their wrist/fingers to write with, this is bad form (it gets even worse when you try to write fast).

The muscles you should actually be using are further up your arm (think shoulder area), these are actually more precise and consistent once trained than wrist/fingers...just ask any high level golfer.

The best way to practice is to write large on a chalk/dry-erase board on the wall, as this will limit the amount of wrist action you can use.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 06 2011 01:06 GMT
#70
My penmanship is pretty bad, it's even worse than Falcynn's.
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
September 06 2011 01:07 GMT
#71
if im writing notes im great. If im writing normal stuff its bad
Arathore
Profile Joined January 2011
104 Posts
September 06 2011 01:08 GMT
#72
I didn't think mine was too bad until one day back when I was in middle school i thought i'd score some points with my girlfriend and leave her a romantic note in her locker. I ended up having to read it to her because she couldn't make out what it said.
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:09:17
September 06 2011 01:09 GMT
#73
Mine is legible I guess, but I don't like it. Too messy
At class people pretty often ask me 'What does it say here?' 'Is this a k or a h?' kinda depressing -_-
''They put signs, but I can't read''
Neb1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States183 Posts
September 06 2011 01:10 GMT
#74
Mine doesn't look nice, but it is more readable than most.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
September 06 2011 01:11 GMT
#75
why is there no "absolutely atrocious" option?
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arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
September 06 2011 01:11 GMT
#76
id say mine is below average

but most handwriting i see is below average

i think its normal to have shit handwriting...
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
September 06 2011 01:12 GMT
#77
My handwriting has not changed since middle school. I am 100% serious.
gg wp
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
September 06 2011 01:15 GMT
#78
Horrendous, absolutely horrendous. Thats all there really is to say.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
Jameslf
Profile Joined April 2011
Colombia19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:21:20
September 06 2011 01:20 GMT
#79
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See for yourselfs...
2 things.
1. Its in spanish (i'm latin american, but my family is from england, so no worries )
2. its flipped (cause i took it without a mirror u-u)

It looks, as my friends describe it, like grasshoppers humping ants. Really.

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The worst Caligrafer... sorry,
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
September 06 2011 01:22 GMT
#80
On September 06 2011 10:12 Ulfsark wrote:
My handwriting has not changed since middle school. I am 100% serious.


Same. Honestly, as soon as I started doing homework on a computer I think I stopped writing completely.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
September 06 2011 01:24 GMT
#81
On September 06 2011 09:58 Railxp wrote:
apparently, the average handwriting is below average. =p

lol yeah, my hand writing is dreadful. If only the OP asked about average typing speed, then I would have something to wave my dick at.
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brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
September 06 2011 01:24 GMT
#82
I print so it is very legible. My cursive is horrible though.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:27:30
September 06 2011 01:25 GMT
#83
Definitely below average, it has not changed since I was like 12.

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Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
September 06 2011 01:25 GMT
#84
On September 06 2011 09:20 Lemonwalrus wrote:
My handwriting is atrocious. Sometimes I can't even read something I've just written.


same! Thank goodness for the computer.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 06 2011 01:25 GMT
#85
I gave up on handwriting. It's too difficult.
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Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
September 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#86
I can read my handwriting, but not many other people can. Although, I do regularly get complimented on how cool it looks because it's all cursive and such.

So, in appearance, above average if you just glance at a page full of my writing, but below average if you actually try to read it.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
September 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#87
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/handwriting
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Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom397 Posts
September 06 2011 01:26 GMT
#88
I can always read what i've written but no one else can
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
September 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#89
Average- it's a blend of cursive and regular writing.
My friends say that my writing is too neat (by guy standards). lol.
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Szubie
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:29:17
September 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#90
Mine is terrible, lol. My teachers kept begging me to improve it for the finals, so it was legible enough to read. Unfortunately for them, I decided to do this by handing in the rest of my essays for the year handwritten....and I don't think I made much improvement! :D
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#91
Why write when I can type? My writing is total shit.
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 06 2011 01:32 GMT
#92
I have terrible penmanship. I remember my 7th grade science class teacher explaining to us why males on average had worse penmanship than females. He told us that when kids learn to write for the first time, the muscles in the wrists and hands are significantly more developed in females than males. So, if you are male and started kindergarten a year early, then you are more likely to have poor penmanship.
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
September 06 2011 01:33 GMT
#93
I have a "girly" writing. Once in high school I forgot to write my name on a paper when I got an 85 when the teacher wanted to hand them back, I claimed it as mine and she didn't believe me. -.- I didn't dare call her sexist!
Pondo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia283 Posts
September 06 2011 01:34 GMT
#94
I often get told I write like a girl by guys. And girls tell me their jealous of my handwriting :S
I put down above average.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:40:26
September 06 2011 01:39 GMT
#95
Everyone friend or stranger tells me I have the hand writing of a doctor or physician, now that is horrible.

edit: It doesnt help that my script hand-writing style began in 2nd grade, very early in my elementary days.
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Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
September 06 2011 01:43 GMT
#96
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Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
September 06 2011 01:43 GMT
#97
My handwriting is goddamn terrible.
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Ravar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States447 Posts
September 06 2011 01:45 GMT
#98
If I took my time my hand writing would be at least average but I always write way to fast and it looks like my pen/pencil was in a fight with my hand and took it out on the paper.
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Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
September 06 2011 01:45 GMT
#99
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optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
September 06 2011 01:46 GMT
#100
i struggle to read my own writing if its on a piece thats a few months old ;/
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
September 06 2011 01:46 GMT
#101
My writing is god awful. When I was younger people would make fun of me for writing like a scrub. =<
Amazingly SOME teachers can read it, but it's pretty damn bad.
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 06 2011 01:47 GMT
#102
My handwriting is legible, but quite messy and the size of the text changes frequently.
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Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
September 06 2011 01:51 GMT
#103
I have awful handwriting, it has been made fun of by other students (all in light humor though).
I think the reason for most tl'ers having worse handwriting, or thinking our handwriting is worse, is because it hasn't been forced as much as previous generations to us young guns .
I think I have way above average WPM, at least compared to older people xD. So I guess it all works out :D
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 06 2011 01:53 GMT
#104
I clicked better than average on accident, my handwriting is absolutely unreadable to anyone but me (and even then I'm not at 100% success rate of knowing what my old notes say).
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:55:42
September 06 2011 01:55 GMT
#105
When I write normally, it's average. Other people say it's above average, although I seriously doubt it.

Funnily enough I look up to people with semi-readable scribbles. They all have a certain charm to them that most Asian robot handwriting doesn't.
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Andymoo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States110 Posts
September 06 2011 01:56 GMT
#106
On September 06 2011 09:21 Hyren wrote:
I swear my handwriting hasn't changed since 3rd grade.


^^ this.

Mine is awful, I've had papers given back to me because they weren't legible enough to grade -_- There are some days it takes me a few minutes to even understand stuff I wrote before, gg
Lamppost
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada317 Posts
September 06 2011 01:57 GMT
#107
My handwriting is so bad I avoid situation that require me to actually use my handwriting and I practice my signature 2-3 times on a blank sheet before signing something important lol
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 06 2011 01:59 GMT
#108
yeah, I'm having difficulty reading my own stuff nowadays.

I write in cursive, so I guess that's part of the problem. If I wrote in print, it's okay maybe--I think it looks like a first grader's, but it is more readable.

Every teacher I've ever had said I had bad handwriting, as well as TA's in university. The worst was my last year in high school, where my english teacher said I had worse handwriting than a guy who graduated 2 years ahead of me.

The other guy's handwriting was chicken scratch. It was literally only horizontal lines. He didn't even finish words it was so bad. the last 3 letters of any word longer than like 5 letters was just an amorphous line.

So, I guess when teachers say it's the worst they've ever seen, it's pretty bad.
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Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
September 06 2011 02:00 GMT
#109
A lot of people say my handwriting is very neat. Actually a lot of teachers have pointed out my handwriting in class and made me help them write their work for them. ><"

I don't think my handwriting is that good though, I see a lot of crooked lines. =x
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
September 06 2011 02:01 GMT
#110
I believe the current bias on handwriting is that women tend to have the more readable and neater handwriting. But I've had several girls tell me that they like my handwriting style compared to other males, and sometimes their own.

Self criticism says it's very violent and scratchy in nature. Very fast movements, sometimes separated by pauses and other times weaved together in completely unnecessary spots. For example, my T's will look like X's because I don't pick up my pen when I cross the T's stem. My E's (lower case) look like a theta symbol "θ". On top of these, as well as unmentioned scrutiny, letters will heavily vary throughout an entire essay. One D at the beginning will start looking like a 9 near the end.

The way I hold my utensils has also been pointed out several times. I make an upside down U-shape with my hand while I'm writing. Others say this form will hurt their wrists if they try to mimic it.

But I think it's my thinking process that makes it look favorable. A sentence or even half a sentence will materialize into my mind, I will scribble it down as fast as possible if it's a good idea, then sit there doing nothing until the next idea. The result is my papers look like they are fully thought out before written, then madly thrown down onto paper before the entire idea of the paper is forgotten. Brain capacity +1.
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Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
September 06 2011 02:03 GMT
#111
I used to have very good handwriting and then came high school where I needed to write at 4000 wpm in order to get all the notes the teachers put up and I seemed to have sacrificed all handwriting neatness above just average for speed.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
September 06 2011 02:04 GMT
#112
Absolute turds. I used to have fuckin sick handwriting. It all went down hill as soon as I discovered battle.net
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Hobosnipe
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada13 Posts
September 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#113
My hand writing is terrible, sometimes I can't tell what I just wrote.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#114
I was going to say below average, but after seeing poll resuls it's obviously just Average.
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Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
September 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#115
My cursive handwriting isn't pretty but it's perfectly readable to anyone, my ß looks particularly terrible and I don't differentiate between upper and lower case Ks.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
September 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#116
Probably below average, I rarely write that much shit though, so yeah, cant be good at something you never do T_T

I did have pretty good handwriting in like high school though, rofl.
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atrocity3010
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
70 Posts
September 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#117
Pretty bad, it looks like it was written by a 5th grader. My "signature" is even worse, it's literally just two squiggles.
ravenKRaz
Profile Joined March 2011
United States580 Posts
September 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#118
My handwriting is atrocious.. it's usually very hard for even me to read what i wrote. It's probably due to the fact that i write extremely fast and i don't really give a shit about writing anyway
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Glowinglight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States76 Posts
September 06 2011 02:10 GMT
#119
My hand writing is very neat, I used to have a habit of writing very small, but have gotten out of it. My cursive is terrible though.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
September 06 2011 02:11 GMT
#120
I have nice cursive, but fairly standard messy printing/normal writing. Writing in cursive just automatically puts me in neat-anal-arty mode.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
September 06 2011 02:12 GMT
#121
my handwriting is chicken scratch
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spacebob42
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
September 06 2011 02:17 GMT
#122
I find it curious that so many sc2 players, with the dexterity and hand precision a game like SC2 requires, have sloppy handwriting. I do, too, incidentally.

Also, I'm no statistics major, but I think if 70% are below average, something's wrong with the metric...
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Mordoc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States162 Posts
September 06 2011 02:20 GMT
#123
For me, 'below average' is a euphemism for absolutely terrible to the point that I have to type all my work or at least write in print, and very slowly.

Also, I'm borderline for receiving medication for it (ADD medication, I think), but hate depending on meds.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
September 06 2011 02:20 GMT
#124
Sometimes I have trouble reading my own handwriting.
V3ndx
Profile Joined April 2011
Peru42 Posts
September 06 2011 02:24 GMT
#125
My handwrite is barely readable most of the time. Only when I have to write something for someone, I try to make it very readable (maybe even draw the letters haha).
Or when I find myself with a lot of time to write slowly and make it legible.
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
September 06 2011 02:24 GMT
#126
I can always read it... except for when I'm taking notes in class... uhh.. fail :/
Also, it has stayed the same since about 2nd grade. I just graduated from 8th grade last year and teachers were still both criticizing my hand writing, lowering grades for bad hand writing, and trying to get me to improve it by forcing good hand writing onto me. AKA what failed in the past is bound to work this time! Sure it's the 20th try of the same technique but... it could work...+ Show Spoiler +
...Not

Also lol@ the first reply being a guy wasting his 6000th post on criticizing his own handwriting xD. Most hilarious 6000th post yet :3
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Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
September 06 2011 02:24 GMT
#127
Terrible, people say I have a dr's handwriting.
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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
September 06 2011 02:26 GMT
#128
Quite bad unless I try to make it good.. which I don't.
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zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
September 06 2011 02:26 GMT
#129
Above average, I get compliments all the time from people. I think I get it from my parents (specifically mom since hers is nicest), since they both have really neat handwriting.
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
September 06 2011 02:27 GMT
#130
99% of males have terrible handwriting where pretty much only you yourself can understand what u wrote
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
September 06 2011 02:28 GMT
#131
I had a drunk toddler tell me i had bad handwriting once... it hurt real bad
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
September 06 2011 02:28 GMT
#132
mine's pretty horrible, but over the years it's at least become kind of standard, so while it's illegible, it's illegible in the same way every single time
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 06 2011 02:29 GMT
#133
On September 06 2011 09:27 IskatuMesk wrote:
I cannot hand write. I actually can barely even print. I've never really had a need for either, though.

It's your condition that prevents you from writing, is it?

To everyone else, he's sick with some degenerative disease, if I remember correctly...
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
September 06 2011 02:30 GMT
#134
On September 06 2011 10:25 DarthXX wrote:
Definitely below average, it has not changed since I was like 12.

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Dude your handwriting is amazing!
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 02:30:26
September 06 2011 02:30 GMT
#135
I pretty much indent letters into the page so much that they can show up on a few pages forward(not the actual ink, just the pressure I put on each letter) and its pretty big writing, but its very legible.

Now when I had/have to take a lot of notes, I write with no regard to my neatness.
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LordAben
Profile Joined September 2011
20 Posts
September 06 2011 02:30 GMT
#136
I once failed a paper in my english class because the teacher couldent read what i wrote. Afterwards i typed every essay a made
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
September 06 2011 02:32 GMT
#137
I can read my handwriting, but I am about the only one. I've never had good hand writing, however in my 8th grade computer class (10 years ago now) I had better WPM than my teacher.
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MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
September 06 2011 02:34 GMT
#138
In high school, I used to lose marks on test and papers because my teachers couldn't read my answers. Eventually I bought a printer and started typing my papers but still got boned on test since you can't do a test on a computer >.<
Fallians
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada242 Posts
September 06 2011 02:36 GMT
#139
Mine makes my teachers want to quit there job.....
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
September 06 2011 02:37 GMT
#140
Used to be pretty good a long time ago, but after several years of typing instead of writing in almost every situation possible it's gotten a bit worse - maybe average/slightly below average.

And when taking personal notes it's terrible of course, no use for neatness there.
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Hibzy
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom445 Posts
September 06 2011 02:40 GMT
#141
Really, really, REALLY bad. If i'm tired even i can't read what i have written
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 06 2011 02:40 GMT
#142
It depends on what I'm doing, how pressed for time I am, my mood, the pen, and other stuff. Ranges from fairly neat/above average to a sort of tentacled calamity given form in ink and bound to the page.
brownthing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States189 Posts
September 06 2011 02:41 GMT
#143
My handwriting is very legible, but pretty much everyone tells me it also looks really bad -.-.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
September 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#144
I write like a 12 year old. It's pretty much embarrassing.
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
September 06 2011 02:43 GMT
#145
The poll results are hilarious. Mathematically speaking, we can't have 70% below average!
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Jenkl
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 02:44:59
September 06 2011 02:43 GMT
#146
On September 06 2011 11:43 Millitron wrote:
The poll results are hilarious. Mathematically speaking, we can't have 70% below average!


It's not a random sample.

And add me to the atrocious pile.
Wait, maybe I've worded that poorly...
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
September 06 2011 02:44 GMT
#147
There should be an option for exceedingly below average.
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
September 06 2011 02:49 GMT
#148
Where is the option: "totally abysmal"?
My handwritting is actually kind of ugly but I'd say only somewhat below average. However, I know tons of people who have a handwritting that you could only decipher if you have a degree in cryptography. If I ever need to copy something for my engineering studies the only chance of getting legible papers is to ask one of the few girls amongst us, since the stuff of all guys seems like they've been writting it with their left foot while trying to juggle balls with their hands.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
September 06 2011 02:49 GMT
#149
My "proper" handwriting is very neat and legible, some of my friends say it's "girl" handwriting.

Though on the other hand, when I'm furiously jotting down my thoughts, I don't even heed the lines on the page. No one else can read it... sometimes not even me .
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nerdoplex
Profile Joined May 2011
United States15 Posts
September 06 2011 02:49 GMT
#150
People say I write like a type writer, I always type in all caps and small but very neat, almost OCD-like. I am always asked to write for them so that it will look good at work and such. Been writing the same way since like 4th grade.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
September 06 2011 02:53 GMT
#151
Always get compliments on my handwriting, "esp for a guy". Then I get them in bed. It's like a one-two combo.
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AresHero
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
September 06 2011 02:53 GMT
#152
Mine used to be horrible chicken scratch, but during my 2nd year of college I finally got sick of looking at it. I picked a cool semi-caligraphy style font out online and forced myself to copy it until I could write it proficiently. It took about 2 weeks to get decent and after about a month I couldn't write in my old handwriting anymore.
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 06 2011 03:09 GMT
#153
Mine is awful I hope it'll be understandable though this year :s
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RunAwayCactuar
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom54 Posts
September 06 2011 03:10 GMT
#154
My handwriting is very neat. Everyone that's seen my handwriting says it's 100% readable and similar to Calibri text. I hold the pencil with all my fingertips/thumb touching just below the pencil tip which make writing really accurate but I haven't seen or known anyone who writes this way...wondering who taught me to write this way xD
Ardhimas
Profile Joined March 2011
Indonesia75 Posts
September 06 2011 03:14 GMT
#155
On September 06 2011 11:43 Millitron wrote:
The poll results are hilarious. Mathematically speaking, we can't have 70% below average!

If I made this into a survey and walked around town asking random people, I would probably get a lot of averages, and above averages when I get girls to vote.

TL.net is full of guys who spend more time typing than writing. What can you expect from a sample like this?
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
September 06 2011 03:47 GMT
#156
mine:
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Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
September 06 2011 03:48 GMT
#157
My handwriting is absolutely horrid.

I don't let that bother me however, as I almost exclusively type on a keyboard. I probably pick up a pen and write maybe once a year, tops.
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
September 06 2011 03:52 GMT
#158
Working in healthcare my hand writing is naturally atrocious.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
September 06 2011 04:02 GMT
#159
On September 06 2011 12:52 Snet wrote:
Working in healthcare my hand writing is naturally atrocious.

This is very true for my doctor. Every time I get a prescription the pharmacist never knows what it says.

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Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
September 06 2011 04:02 GMT
#160
People have always told me I write like a girl.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 06 2011 04:03 GMT
#161
Mine is horrendous, they tried to correct it with classes. Didn't pan out, they say I have my father's doctor handwriting.

Minus the medical degree ):
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Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
September 06 2011 04:05 GMT
#162
Very good. Had to fix everything in my last two years of highschool for AP English courses. Can't edit your paper if you can't read it.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 06 2011 04:06 GMT
#163
i write in all capital letters, and just make bigger capital letters for the sake of grammar.

it works.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 06 2011 04:07 GMT
#164
i have an above average handwriting in terms of clarity. i also write pretty fast so i have had no problem with handwriting at all
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
September 06 2011 04:10 GMT
#165
Asian schooled. I feel like my handwriting is grossly below average, but 'illegible' is not even close to description of the worst I have come across around these parts. I've got a feeling my standards are very different according to how most of the TL community whose posts I've read so far in this thread haha.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
September 06 2011 04:14 GMT
#166
Definitely below average here. I have epic chicken-scratch. Always sucks when I have to fill in forms and stuff because it takes twice as long to write neatly.
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V3ndx
Profile Joined April 2011
Peru42 Posts
September 06 2011 04:17 GMT
#167
On September 06 2011 12:52 Snet wrote:
Working in healthcare my hand writing is naturally atrocious.

I still don't understand why most people involved in healthcare have their handwriting so terrible.

When a physician gives me a prescription I can't understand a thing. After I receive it I can decipher what it says only because he/she explained all the instructions while writing them.

Maybe it's because of all the weird long names they have to write while studying? I'm still curious about that...

But anyways, I find it funny when I forget what the doctor said and have to look it on the prescription even though I can't read it, haha.
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Hamsterdam
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand59 Posts
September 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#168
Bad to the point where I have to write extra careful in exams so the examiner can read it.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
September 06 2011 04:31 GMT
#169
Bad.
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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
September 06 2011 04:35 GMT
#170
Mine looks like someone took shrooms and tried to scratch their way out of a paper prison.
Pinkie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States145 Posts
September 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#171
On September 06 2011 13:17 V3ndx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 12:52 Snet wrote:
Working in healthcare my hand writing is naturally atrocious.

I still don't understand why most people involved in healthcare have their handwriting so terrible.

When a physician gives me a prescription I can't understand a thing. After I receive it I can decipher what it says only because he/she explained all the instructions while writing them.

Maybe it's because of all the weird long names they have to write while studying? I'm still curious about that...

But anyways, I find it funny when I forget what the doctor said and have to look it on the prescription even though I can't read it, haha.


I assume its probably because they can't spell most of the prescriptions correctly so they just cursive and scratch so that its not totally obvious that they can't spell.
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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
September 06 2011 04:38 GMT
#172
It's slow, it's ugly, and it physically hurts my hand.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
September 06 2011 04:46 GMT
#173
Really good. All those years of failing engineering classes and redoing the same problem over and over again, including drawings, really got my lines straight. It really cleaned up my form when I sign my name and stuff.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
September 06 2011 04:48 GMT
#174
my handwriting is terrible, slow, and hurts my hand... I hate writing, why can't I just type for exams? I would be done in literally 20 minutes instead of 2 hours..
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
September 06 2011 04:50 GMT
#175
I write fairly fast in cursive and it looks like shit

loooool
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Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
September 06 2011 04:52 GMT
#176
Overall my handwriting is probably average but for some reason it's really neat when I do math lol.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
September 06 2011 04:57 GMT
#177
I only write in caps because my lower-case writing is too sloppy
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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
September 06 2011 05:03 GMT
#178
I get comments regularly that I write like a girl. It does look pretty good though.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
September 06 2011 05:08 GMT
#179
More than readable, but not pretty at all. And same with my Chinese handwriting. It's rare to write anything at length by hand anymore so practice is hard to come by.
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Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
September 06 2011 06:20 GMT
#180
69% say below average. Maybe Handwriting now days sucks because people don't use it as much.
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MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
September 06 2011 06:26 GMT
#181
i dont think my handwriting has changed since i was in the 6th grade, im a junior in college now.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
September 06 2011 06:29 GMT
#182
My handwriting is similar to that of a retarded 2nd grader.

It does not really change if I try to write neat or write fast.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
September 06 2011 06:34 GMT
#183
Mine is pretty good when I am not trying to write fast. I also use cursive sometimes if the situation arises.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 06 2011 06:36 GMT
#184
It looks REALLY ugly but I think most people should be able to read it
Asrathiel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia377 Posts
September 06 2011 06:38 GMT
#185
I voted better than average, I like writing and doing things like filling in forms. But then I'm weird
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drshdwpuppet
Profile Joined July 2011
United States332 Posts
September 06 2011 06:39 GMT
#186
I have really pretty cursive, legible and well formed normal, but when I use my note taking short hand, Micheal J. Fox could write neater.
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Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
September 06 2011 06:41 GMT
#187
My handwriting is so baller it oftentimes gets mistaken for a girl's (no sexism hate or anything like that here). I had a friend ask me to teach him how to write I was like wtf, hell no.
DakotaA7X
Profile Joined June 2011
United States74 Posts
September 06 2011 06:44 GMT
#188
I think we can all thank the internet for the results of this poll. No one will be writing anything in 10 years! I would have to say I am average. It isn't nearly as bad as some of you make yours out to be.
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yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
September 06 2011 06:44 GMT
#189
People have told me that I have nice hand writing but I think it isn't that great just average.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 06 2011 06:46 GMT
#190
mine is pretty bad, iono ... others say it's okay but i'm somehow disgusted by every word i wrote
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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 06 2011 06:46 GMT
#191
My writing has always been bad. Never related it to computer usage through |:/
ponyo.848
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
September 06 2011 06:55 GMT
#192
On September 06 2011 09:29 hypercube wrote:
Most of the time I can figure out what I wrote.


yeah, this.

Mine kinda sucks shit because I don't use handwriting at all. They made me learn it in grade 3 and in grade 6 told me I would use it all through highschool and I was like, "herpderp, you're dumb, I can type 80 wpm, bro."

So I'm okay with it being bad, but I would like to have a totally sick signature. Something completely illegible, but looks like you did it exactly right, you know?
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
September 06 2011 07:00 GMT
#193
My friends ask me if they can use my notes for classes because half the time they can't read their own. Plus I've had girls look over my shoulder when I'm writing and say - "Wow! That's beautiful! I wish I could write cursive like that!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
September 06 2011 07:01 GMT
#194
68% below average? something is wrong here...
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Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
September 06 2011 07:03 GMT
#195
My handwriting is pretty terrible, but I'm great at carving moonrunes only I can understand.
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
September 06 2011 07:05 GMT
#196
On September 06 2011 09:29 hypercube wrote:
Most of the time I can figure out what I wrote.

this is what I have. Sometimes I can't read the notes I took, very annoying.
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Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
September 06 2011 07:06 GMT
#197
Mine is really really bad. It looks like a spider has been dipped in ink, dropped on the page, then had a fit. Will upload a picture shortly actually
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
September 06 2011 07:07 GMT
#198
My handwriting hasn't improved at all since I learned to write. I bet there sure are worse handwritings than mine but seriously, mine is very bad:--D
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 07:09:03
September 06 2011 07:07 GMT
#199
My writing is extremely messy, its a rare sight for other people to be able to read a complete sentence of mine, no exaggeration. Handwriting in particular I literally dont know how to do, I just basically write the words out and add little swirly lines to connect them, fraying off in arbitrary directions. Its a thinly veiled facade im afraid.
JosephFoU
Profile Joined September 2011
Afghanistan16 Posts
September 06 2011 07:08 GMT
#200
Can't really vote for this one, it much rather subjective. Some loved my unique handwriting and can read it perfectly while others don't really apperciate it and can't read it.
DarkSWARM
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
September 06 2011 07:09 GMT
#201
On September 06 2011 16:01 Valashu wrote:
68% below average? something is wrong here...

I find that most people have "bad" handwriting, so they naturally assume below average when the reality is average isn't very good, at least based on what I've seen.

I used to be told I had really neat and girly handwriting. I don't know why but now some people say they can't read my handwriting and it hasn't changed much imo. I still think it's above average, but I never did think it was that nice.
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lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
September 06 2011 07:10 GMT
#202
Well you have to remember like 98% of people here are guys and guys on average have worse hand writing than girls. I wouldnt be surprised if the average guy was below "the average" whereas the average girl was uh, above it. heh.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 06 2011 07:11 GMT
#203
Try writing something without the use of your thumbs, and you will have a good idea of what it looks like.
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jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 07:12:47
September 06 2011 07:12 GMT
#204
Guys generally have bad handwriting. Girls generally have good handwriting. I don't really see how it is possible for some people not to be able to read their own hand writing though, that just seems pathetically bad.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 06 2011 07:14 GMT
#205
I actually was taught how to properly write letters (old and mordern styles). When I don't really care about it to be nice and want it fast, like in lectures, normally it's "average". But normally in daily when I write, it's reasonalbly nice :D Also I think I did write quite much more than normal when I was in middle/high-school
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
September 06 2011 07:18 GMT
#206
I make a doctors chicken scratch look legible.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
September 06 2011 07:27 GMT
#207
On September 06 2011 09:23 lyAsakura wrote:
Really tiny, crammed together, and borderline illegible handwriting.
Eh, whatever.


Same as this guy, if its for myself. If I'm writing back and forth with someone (hearing impaired) I basically take my time a little bit more, bigger and clearer.
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B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
September 06 2011 07:31 GMT
#208
I had to type all my papers in high school because my teachers could not read my handwriting. Its just chicken scratch......
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 07:42:04
September 06 2011 07:40 GMT
#209
I can't write reasonably fast and neat/legible at the same time. If I want my writing to be decent I really have to slow a lot. Picked below average of course.

Never touched a computer before I was 13 or 14 btw ;<
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 06 2011 07:40 GMT
#210
Mine is definitely above average simply going on this poll lol. Pretty bad indictment of primary education these days.
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spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
September 06 2011 07:44 GMT
#211
I can barely read my own sometimes, it's really bad but I can't seem to improve it very well and if I do try to I take up a LOT more time and it'll still look horrible :x. So ye definitly below average
Wulfen
Profile Joined December 2010
35 Posts
September 06 2011 07:44 GMT
#212
Its not the best, but i chose about average.

Cause i am left-handed and some teachers told me my words looks very good for a left-handed boy.^^
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
September 06 2011 07:45 GMT
#213
Always legible, but rarely pretty.
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KRaver
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1264 Posts
September 06 2011 07:48 GMT
#214
Being left handed just adds to how bad my handwriting is =/
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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 06 2011 07:48 GMT
#215
If I write fast, only a few people can understand what I just wrote.
In general though, it's legible
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Arckan
Profile Joined September 2010
243 Posts
September 06 2011 07:48 GMT
#216
My writing isn't pretty, but it is very neat. I write in print, I've never had someone say they couldn't read my handwriting and frequently receive comments on how legible it is.

That said, I wish it was sloppier, if making it sloppier meant I wrote faster. I could barely keep up when taking notes in school.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 06 2011 07:49 GMT
#217
sorry, didn't see a "mentally challenged five year old" option.

memes are a dish best served dank
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
September 06 2011 07:50 GMT
#218
hmm, even i have difficulty reading my own handwriting so yeah, would you consider that legible?
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thepeonwhocould
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia334 Posts
September 06 2011 07:52 GMT
#219
Personally I think that if you are writing something that needs to be read by another human being besides yourself...it should be written in print.
MaegnisRa
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium39 Posts
September 06 2011 07:55 GMT
#220
A former teacher of mine told me that it was comparable to how a dog's writing would look like. >:
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courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
September 06 2011 08:07 GMT
#221
absolute crap. its my own secret code, no one can read it
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
September 06 2011 08:07 GMT
#222
My handwriting is like offracing in starcraft. I can kinda throw something together that resembles something useful but regardless its never going to end well.
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Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
September 06 2011 08:12 GMT
#223
I think it's not nessecarily below average, but it is below what I would consider a nice looking handwriting. cba to invest the time to improve it though.
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sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
September 06 2011 08:16 GMT
#224
I dont know why I even bother taking notes in classes...I can never use them later.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
September 06 2011 08:21 GMT
#225
My handwriting is okay, but I don't like it mostly because I am a perfectionist. I'm an illustrator and painter by hobby that's why.
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Toth201
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands49 Posts
September 06 2011 08:22 GMT
#226
I used to have a really REALLY bad handwriting, but once I got to college and stuff started to matter, I tought myself a new handwriting which was slow and annoying at first but now it's pretty fast and everyone can read it.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 08:25:22
September 06 2011 08:24 GMT
#227
My hand writing is horrendous. Good thing I am not in school anymore so I never have to write ever. I was always one of the very worst in all my classes when I was a kid, teenager and an adult. I have struggled to read my own hand writing.
Could be why mechanics have always been why weakness in sc2 and bw.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
September 06 2011 08:26 GMT
#228
my handwriting is disgusting. Can i post a pic LOL
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Skoop
Profile Joined March 2011
United States214 Posts
September 06 2011 08:29 GMT
#229
I'm always typing not writing. So when I go back to class each semester I'm amazed that my handwriting is actually on like a 3rd grade level lol.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 06 2011 08:31 GMT
#230
I must admit its pretty bad. But when I take my time it comes out ok and everyone can read it. But I feel like that is cheating slowing down and making sure I write it neat lol.
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 06 2011 08:33 GMT
#231
I try to make it worse, just to make it look better.
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
September 06 2011 08:41 GMT
#232
On September 06 2011 09:28 Kurr wrote:
When I write only for myself : barely legible, only readable if you're me honestly.


Same goes for me
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Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
September 06 2011 08:43 GMT
#233
People tell me that my handwriting resembles a girl's. Girls tell me they wish their handwriting as nice. I print; my cursive is atrocious. I have a background in art and painting though, so that is a major contribution to my printing form. Though, I have to say that during summers when I hardly have to write something, my handwriting form does diminish noticeably.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
September 06 2011 08:44 GMT
#234
My handwriting is utterly awful. Even I can't read it half the time.
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gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 08:49:54
September 06 2011 08:44 GMT
#235
Horrible (my cursive at least), I have my own versions of like 9 letters which make it impossible for anyone but me to read, however I am extremely fast with it and I never have to look at the page I'm writing on when taking notes in lectures. My printing is almost as quick however and extremely legible.

PS (my signature is atrocious and always looks slightly different, my bank hates me for it.)
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 06 2011 08:45 GMT
#236
My Korean is pretty nice.
English... if I take my time, it looks pretty. If not, it's fairly messy.
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Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
September 06 2011 08:47 GMT
#237
Way below average. I've been using computers regularly since I was 10 >.>. I can read it, but not many others can.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
September 06 2011 08:48 GMT
#238
On September 06 2011 09:18 Ardhimas wrote:
Poll: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

Below average. (1139)
 
65%

Better than average. (325)
 
19%

Average, (287)
 
16%

1751 total votes

Your vote: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

(Vote): Better than average.
(Vote): Average,
(Vote): Below average.



I've always been curious about this, especially considering we are all Starcraft players, meaning we are at least 98% males. This really means at least 70% of us if not much more of us actually have worse than average handwriting.

Fix that for you.
Hi!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
September 06 2011 08:48 GMT
#239
Mine's fine I guess. Not perfect (but I'm working on it) but it's readable and doesn't look half that bad. Also, I rarely make any errors.
Using a regular pen (you know, the kind you need to fill with ink) helps a lot as you can't just scribble away with it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
September 06 2011 08:50 GMT
#240
i write worse then i did in the 4th class
nearly no one can read what i write, but i still write in this "little boy" handwriting you learn in the first classes
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
September 06 2011 08:59 GMT
#241
Depending on how hard I'm trying I find mine pretty neat and readable, even tho my spacing could use some work. I love people that have a what I call classic-modern style (classic writing but kinda upgraded for stylishness, readability and writing speed would be the best way to describe it).

I was going to pick average for myself since I don't feel my writing is any special, but I know way too many people that have horrible writing (ugly and/or unreadable), so I figured I'm a solid above average
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
September 06 2011 08:59 GMT
#242
my writing is worse than a 6 year old retarded kid
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
September 06 2011 09:18 GMT
#243
Even when I have to write super fast my hand writing is always pretty good, and I often get compliments from both men and women about how good my handwriting is, and a lot of questions if I'm an artist which I'm not.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 09:25:14
September 06 2011 09:24 GMT
#244
People always think I'm a girl when they see my gorgeous handwriting. Are girls supposed to have better handwriting?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
September 06 2011 09:26 GMT
#245
Somewhere in the middle. It's ledgible but not pretty.

My CEO's is the worst I've seen. I always have to go to his PA for translations.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
September 06 2011 09:27 GMT
#246
Mine is pretty good. If I write a bit slower than college note-taking I write like a girl. I have a habit of connecting all my words even if they're technically unable to be connected, but I make some loops and it works out well.

I think my handwriting is sort of a hybrid cursive style...I like it =]
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EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
September 06 2011 09:30 GMT
#247
Most of my writting nowadays is done with a keyboard. If you don't practice with pen an paper surely your writting suffer.
aka Wardo
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 06 2011 09:31 GMT
#248
Mine's a fucking tragedy. I remember all through school teachers would always put that on reports, I was a model student until about 15 so they had to think of something even a little negative to put on there and it was always handwriting. Of course my parents focused in on that one negative like crazy and I spent endless hours sat practising handwriting at the kitchen table. Still didn't help.

I don't trust people with really neat handwriting...I can't help but think that they have minds like robots.
CarlaBruni
Profile Joined August 2011
61 Posts
September 06 2011 09:41 GMT
#249
i have the best handwriting of tl i went to olympics game of handwriting and i m win most of my matches
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the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
September 06 2011 09:43 GMT
#250
I have extremely clear and neat handwriting, readable by everyone. Guess I'm the exception...
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
September 06 2011 09:46 GMT
#251
I have quite an elegant handwriting actually.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 06 2011 09:48 GMT
#252
Mine looks terrible but I guarantee you its 100% legible
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
September 06 2011 09:49 GMT
#253
My handwriting is terrible but readable. I can make it average if I have a lot of spare time.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 06 2011 09:50 GMT
#254
On September 06 2011 18:24 Thorakh wrote:
People always think I'm a girl when they see my gorgeous handwriting. Are girls supposed to have better handwriting?

Not often you meet someone handwriting first anymore. I wouldn't be ashamed of having good writing it’s a good thing.

Also you really find out how bad you're handwriting is when you have to write on a chalk board in front of kids. "Don't talk to me trying to not make writing suck so so hard right now"
Uhnno
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands288 Posts
September 06 2011 09:52 GMT
#255
I actually like writing. Call me crazy, but it's a true story. And my handwriting is pretty good also, so definitely above average.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 06 2011 09:55 GMT
#256
I'm the only one who can read it. I'm horrible at writing.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Delarchon
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland132 Posts
September 06 2011 09:55 GMT
#257
Really should spend some time working on my handwriting. It even bothers myself when i see it somewhere.
Just don't know where to start. Maybe i just have to find my first class books somewhere and start all over.
What kind of sorcery is this?
Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
September 06 2011 09:56 GMT
#258
i think my handwriting is pretty good!
but for some reason people disagree and say they cant read it. i honestly don't understand why! D:
Where there's smoke, there's me
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
September 06 2011 10:02 GMT
#259
my handwriting is pretty god damn awesome! :D
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 10:10:23
September 06 2011 10:06 GMT
#260
Mine is aweful. My signature looks like it was done by some who just learned how to write. I wish I'd paid more attention in 4th grade when my teacher was giving her best trying to make me improve it. The sad thing is, I don't think it's necessarily below average, because I see a lot of other people have just as aweful handwritings.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
September 06 2011 10:12 GMT
#261
The last time I tried to wright down my e-mail on a sheet of paper I ended up sending an sms
ligas
Profile Joined May 2011
81 Posts
September 06 2011 11:35 GMT
#262
it's below average but im a very considerate writer. and i like doodling.
papyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines716 Posts
September 06 2011 11:39 GMT
#263
i don't like writing. and my writing is so bad. below average..
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
September 06 2011 11:42 GMT
#264
My handwriting is absolutely dreadful, I really should look at improving that.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
September 06 2011 11:43 GMT
#265
Compared to girl's handwriting, below average. But overall, I think it's pretty ok when I'm not just speed note taking or something.
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
September 06 2011 11:50 GMT
#266
Oddly enough, sometimes I write decently (for a guy) - and other times it's just horrendous.

But again.. sup emails, facebook, forums, keyboard.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
ReD-FooT
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark22 Posts
September 06 2011 11:51 GMT
#267
It is truely horrible... Half the time i can't read it myself, especially if it is written fast.
The ironic thing about it is if i have to write on black board in big letters and i can take my time i always get complimented.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 06 2011 11:53 GMT
#268
It has always been terrible.
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Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
September 06 2011 11:54 GMT
#269
I like to think myself as being above average. It's very readable no matter what speed I'm going for. Though my sisters handwriting is light years ahead of mine... It's not even funny, perfect every time-_-
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Dev11
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia152 Posts
September 06 2011 11:58 GMT
#270
I love these kind of polls ^^.

Interesting that over 50% consider themselves below average, as opposed to most people thinking they are above average usually.

couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
September 06 2011 11:59 GMT
#271
I take care to write legibly otherwise what's the point of writing? (other than like signatures)

Also why the fuck do they teach cursive writing? You never use it past elementary school. And the weird people that still do(excluding teachers teaching it) you can't fucking read it anyways.
VonDarkmore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia192 Posts
September 06 2011 12:05 GMT
#272
I usually get told once a week that I have a great signature, its really neat etc.
however if I do fast hand writing it turns into something from the abyss lol others can read it but if you looked at my signature then hand writing most people think “what happened?”
my signature is all I can write fast
I can print really well though so I voted average
One who understands much displays a greater simplicity of character than one who understands little
Zoundsforsook
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Scotland636 Posts
September 06 2011 12:26 GMT
#273
My writing is pretty clear and easy to read, though it is really not very pretty, its kinda looks like a child practicing his letters.
Paint it bright and bold.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 06 2011 12:30 GMT
#274
Myself and my teachers can read my handwriting np, my classmates/friends... well that's another story. Thankfully in this era we can take notes on our laptops at least
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
September 06 2011 12:30 GMT
#275
if i want to it's okay, but usually it's bad
not superbad though, it's readable easily, so I guess average? :D dunno
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 06 2011 12:33 GMT
#276
It looks like someone vomited on paper, let it dry, then traced the lines with ink. Everyone I know complains about it. On the other hand, everyone I know can read it no problem XD.
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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:35:38
September 06 2011 12:35 GMT
#277
mine is inconsistent, uneven and slow, it looks like a preschoolers handwriting. Its legible, but not pretty.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
September 06 2011 12:37 GMT
#278
Well well well below average. No-one can read my notes except me, and only some of my teachers can read my essays first try.

I need to work on that for university.
entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
September 06 2011 12:38 GMT
#279
My peers tell me I write very small. But it's generally tidier than most other peoples. So I said average
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
September 06 2011 12:40 GMT
#280
I'm a programmer, not a writer, Jim!

I have horrible handwriting but luckily i never have to use it anyways. It is definatly readable but letter sizes, distances, etc. change wildly even in the middle of a word.
Thats the drawback of using PCs since more than 20 years.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
September 06 2011 12:41 GMT
#281
Mines relatively good, many of my friends who borrowed notes from me told me that the notes were clean, well-organized, and legible. Too bad I'm not well-organized and clean when it comes to putting buildings down when I'm playing SCBW...
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burnswuff
Profile Joined December 2010
United States61 Posts
September 06 2011 12:45 GMT
#282
My handwriting is actually pretty bad. I wouldn't say it is illegible but it is close. However, most of the time where I even need to write something down, I never reread such as school notes. I've also written essays for school, etc. and so far none of my teachers complained about illegibility. Funny enough, my dad during my childhood, forced me to write the alpha bet over and over and over. This hasn't really helped me much.
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
September 06 2011 12:45 GMT
#283
I can barely read my own words ;(
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
September 06 2011 12:52 GMT
#284
Several female friends have commented "Your handwriting looks so pretty."

I don't know what to make of that =.=
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 06 2011 12:58 GMT
#285
[image loading]
"My parents told me that I have the worst handwriting ever " for those who couldn't read it lol
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Prospero
Profile Joined September 2011
United States183 Posts
September 06 2011 13:02 GMT
#286
Mine has always been pretty good since I was young, shame I rarely write by hand xD
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 06 2011 13:06 GMT
#287
I am capable of printing very neatly... I have no idea why...
But I also have a pseudo writing printing combo that flows while I'm taking notes, which is much less neat.
I get great satisfaction out of neatly written equations too. Integrated Laplace transforms and stuff can look messy but are actually quite beautiful if you have the foresight to scale everything correctly.
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ChinaLifeXXL
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
September 06 2011 13:08 GMT
#288
I tried to read a note I wrote months ago for something to remember.

It was like reading a coded message. I eventually figured it out; but goddamn, son :X
If you can do it; you should do it every time.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
September 06 2011 13:13 GMT
#289
Everyone understands it, but I have fuckweird handwriting. Everyone tells me I pick up the pen or pencil or w/e wrong, or in a way they can't comprehend.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
September 06 2011 13:15 GMT
#290
On September 06 2011 21:58 Xiphos wrote:
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"My parents told me that I have the worst handwriting ever " for those who couldn't read it lol


Now that is a provocation towards lefties like me and other people with a below average handwriting. I once got above average in handwriting in math. My teacher told me that it was very readeable despite the look of a 10 year olds handwriting.
I've never heard that since. At "gymnasiet "(highschool/collage) and university, I've heard a few teachers/professors moaning about "If we had a readeability-score a few of you would not get grades for the science..."
However, at university I have met people with worse handwriting and it doesn't matter at all as long as you can make yourself understandeable in writing.
Repeat before me
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
September 06 2011 13:16 GMT
#291
On September 06 2011 21:58 Xiphos wrote:
[image loading]
"My parents told me that I have the worst handwriting ever " for those who couldn't read it lol


There is nothing wrong with that handwriting, in fact its pretty neat. The spelling is a different matter

Seems people here have esteem issues related to their handwriting! 66% can't be below average can they?

On topic, mines average. I write quickly and its legible. If I were to slow down somewhat it would be better but its a tradeoff between utility and looks I guess.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
September 06 2011 13:18 GMT
#292
I have had people saying that my handwriting is good, but it just looks completely average to me
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
September 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#293
I write most of my school work on my computer since I mostly do works related to film, photography and multimedia which also means that Im very happy since ever since I learned to write I´ve always heard I have a terrible hand writing, some times my teachers couldnt even read my essays in high school so I had to rewrite them.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
September 06 2011 13:23 GMT
#294
My handwriting is so horrible I pity my teachers who have to read my work, especially when it's an essay test and rushing makes my writing even more illegible. Usually I type when I can.
The horror...the horror
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
September 06 2011 13:25 GMT
#295
My handwriting is has been called effeminate by some. I don't know what that means, but I have never met someone who has trouble reading my handwriting.
Writer
Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:29:52
September 06 2011 13:25 GMT
#296
Pretty illegible actually. In 4th grade I got tired of writing with the crappy cursive script they were teaching, it always hurt my hand to write anything more than a line. So I made a simplified (mainly non-cursive, but it can get pretty connected sometimes) script based on a mix of printed and cursive letters, with the side effect that nobody else seems to be able to read it. No idea why, it is actually pretty straightforward, it's like reading some computer font.
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MaKfejA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:28:09
September 06 2011 13:26 GMT
#297
Mine is not borderline illegible.

It is just straight up illegible. Not a soul can read it but me. It's just a style I developed in early writing where I don't like to lift my pen, but I don't like to write cursive either. It looks like a scribble.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 06 2011 13:26 GMT
#298
Looks like someone threw up over whatever I'm writing.

"You have nice writing Denzil I wish I could write like that"

Always leaves me with a wat face on.
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Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
September 06 2011 13:27 GMT
#299
You guys made me lol. Bad handwriting? Wait to see mine. Every letter has a different size. KiNd Of If I wrtoe liKE tjkbfhs ("this simulates the not being able to read it" part).

But I did have to learn by myself after missing almost a year of school when I was a kid. So I just grabbed a pen and wrote that shit until I couldn't anymore. The problem is, the quality hasn't changed much since. I was 7 years old.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:31:48
September 06 2011 13:31 GMT
#300
If you think about it, it is very strange that most people consider themselves with "below average" handwriting. You can conclude one of the two:

1. People on TL forums are very humble in relation to their handwriting.
2. People on TL forums have "below average" handwriting in relation to their non-TL peers.
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Axero
Profile Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:32:59
September 06 2011 13:31 GMT
#301
On September 06 2011 09:24 Detri wrote:
Dip a spider in ink, let it walk over a page, *VOILA* my handwriting


That made me laugh.

I've been told all the time i have great handwriting. I never thought it was better than average myself.
☺
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
September 06 2011 13:36 GMT
#302
Usually my high school class was like this...teacher hands outs papers then go "who's paper is this?" someone checks then goes "hmm i cant read it must be Danny!" then the teacher says" really? this is like sanskrit" followed by me deciphering words for teacher
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
ArchEnemy
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia37 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:47:17
September 06 2011 13:46 GMT
#303
Mines pretty bad in the sense that its different sizes, capitals mixed in, not in the lines, different angles, tappers off badly during an exam however, after saying all that I would say it's definitely readable (except for the stuff I write in the last ten minutes of the exam when my hands falling off! lol)
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
September 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#304
My pure cursive is horrible and should never be used in any test, but I developed a hybrid which is pretty readable, I only use it test though, cause it stresses my hand more
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
teh_longinator
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada725 Posts
September 06 2011 13:54 GMT
#305
Above average. But then again, I seem to be one of the few people in the world who still believe that paper is better to keep records than electronic devices.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
September 06 2011 13:56 GMT
#306
My handwriting is award winning
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:58:39
September 06 2011 13:58 GMT
#307
my writing is pretty un-readable.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
September 06 2011 14:00 GMT
#308
Shitty autistic handwriting. 1st world problems.
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
September 06 2011 14:01 GMT
#309
My handwriting is terrible. High school english teachers must have went insane trying to decipher what the hell a paper was about.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 06 2011 14:02 GMT
#310
My junior and high school teachers were often surprised by how legible I wrote things, but it might have been had to do with the fact I am Asian. Still I like to believe my handwriting is at least that of average, excluding non-educated individuals.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
September 06 2011 14:02 GMT
#311
My handwriting is abyssmal. My teachers must have went insane trying to decipher what the a paper was about.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 14:03:33
September 06 2011 14:03 GMT
#312
if im rushing through it its legible but looks pretty shitty, when i write essays i tend to put effort in to make it nice to read
my english teacher said its likely the examiner will enjoy marking your work if its presents itself well since they will have marked many poorly written essays that day
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
September 06 2011 14:12 GMT
#313
Let's just say I am glad all my papers have to be typed out.

I think considering technology right now it will only get worse.
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Rafael
Profile Joined January 2011
Venezuela182 Posts
September 06 2011 14:15 GMT
#314
Mine is legible but sure is ugly
AdunToridas
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 15:50:21
September 06 2011 14:18 GMT
#315
I write my diary in Tengwar - just in case someone's too curious.
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Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 06 2011 14:19 GMT
#316
I'd say my handwriting is just a little bit above average. Nothing too fancy. ^__^
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 06 2011 14:21 GMT
#317
So many above average or below average here (85% to one side of average, 15% saying average lol)

Must suck to be average-by-comparison =P
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Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
September 06 2011 14:24 GMT
#318
Always since I was young I was complimented for having very good handwritng, and yeah I always try to make it nice to make it easier on my teachers.
Esel
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 14:27:26
September 06 2011 14:26 GMT
#319
14 / 15 points instead of 15 in an school exam because of handwriting >.<
i like sc2 more than wc3 because of its mind games , in wc3 the only mind game you could do is go for a different hero than normal to make your opponent thing you are retarded
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#320
much better than average

people always said that i had very legible handwriting (I guess neatness implied?)

I did Chinese calligraphy for a long time when I was young, so I had really nice Chinese writing as well, maybe it carried over to English?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Raven068
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States90 Posts
September 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#321
I have some of the most impressively bad handwriting, but it actually only comes out at certain times. Like when I'm taking notes, usually I can't even read it unless I clean it up immediately afterword. But if I'm doing math work it looks alot better than usual. (Probably just because I don't rush it.)
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KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
September 06 2011 15:10 GMT
#322
I have literally had bad handwriting since I learned how to write. I used to always get in trouble for going over/below the line even when just doing Aa Bb Cc Dd exercises. Now I'm 28, and I can't really say I've improved.

Side note, I'm not saying this isn't possible, but it's funny that 15% of people taking the poll say they're "average."
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 15:20:34
September 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#323
I have probably the worst handwriting out of anyone that I know. A lot of time I will write down some notes or something for class and go back and not understand a single word that I wrote. Doctor`s handwriting is stereotypically bad so since about 8 years old all my teachers have said I would make a great doctor.

On top of that even when I attempt to make my writing look good, which takes about 10 times longer to write something, it still doesn`t look the greatest and someone could EASILY write something with better handwriting than me in a fraction of the time.

EDIT: Also my computer engineering teacher says that bad handwriting is a sign of intelligence haha
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#324
Mine is legible, but doesn't look that great. I consider myself a good athlete and extremely coordinated, but writing is one thing that always bothers be because it doesn't look neat and nice. Same with my signature.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
September 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#325
Mine is pretty bad, I have to do effort or I might not even be able to read what I just wrote.
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Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
September 06 2011 15:37 GMT
#326
Mine is readable but not beatiful to look at to say the least. the layout on a full page looks almost funny imo :D
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 06 2011 15:39 GMT
#327
My handwriting is pretty terrible.. Sometimes have a hard time reading it myself
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
September 06 2011 15:46 GMT
#328
lol people compliment my writing, but then I've always drawn a lot. I write cursive.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
September 06 2011 18:24 GMT
#329
I write like a fucking caveman.
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Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
September 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#330
On September 07 2011 03:24 bonifaceviii wrote:
I write like a fucking caveman.


Amen brother
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
September 06 2011 21:12 GMT
#331
My handwriting is way below average, but my typing speed is world class (proven)
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
September 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#332
I write horribly so only I understand it and me mates wont copy me!
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 06 2011 21:15 GMT
#333
I'd say mine's average. Not very fancy, but definitely readable.
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Zazzles
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Slovakia153 Posts
September 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#334
sometimes even I cant read after myself
"Fortune favors the bold"
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
September 06 2011 21:18 GMT
#335
i can sometimes read what i write. too scribbly though, the ink i use doesn't help.. mine is below average, worse than most people i know
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Terant
Profile Joined September 2010
Malta60 Posts
September 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#336
I think mine is pretty average, it's pretty readable but can get better.
And i am surprised by how many people think their handwriting is bad :O Maybe we spend way too much time on computers seeing the perfect handwriting :O
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
September 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#337
Awful lot of engineers here, apparently.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:28:33
September 06 2011 21:28 GMT
#338
I quickly lose motivation to write neatly... I consider myself capable of writing neatly but I rarely do ^^

On September 07 2011 06:25 Bibdy wrote:
Awful lot of engineers here, apparently.

ooh pick me, pick me!
:)
StarFox1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
September 06 2011 21:29 GMT
#339
Barely legible.
"apologize for playing that race" - EGIdra
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44271 Posts
September 06 2011 21:33 GMT
#340
Mine is atrocious because I'm a guy, I type instead of write, and when I am writing things, it's usually math.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
September 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#341
My handwriting is god awful, so awful that time and time again people just have to comment it.

hayata2.0
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:43:47
September 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#342
I write very neatly, and very tiny.
Can't count the times people have gone "how the hell do you write so small" to me. lol.
Probably not good for the eyes to read though XD

This probably happens because I...like cramming as much into a single page as possible cause I don't like to waste paper. Messy writing is big, so I write neat, and tiny.

Its saying something when I can print (also tiny and neatly) faster than I can handwrite. So I usually stick to printing, cause I can print as fast as people handwrite in a tiny font, thought my hand does cramp up after a few minutes of extended writing
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
September 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#343
Atrocious and extremely unique. I have very swirly Y's and G's, my A's E's and O's all kind of blend in together. Any tall letter like b or d are enormous compared to short letter's. For my writing to even be legible I have to have to use a very dull round pencil. I write so light that last year in school I only sharpened my pencil about 6 times, that was only for when one broke. At the end of the year a pencil that I used all year had only lost about an inch of length. My writing is so unique that I never have to write my name on any hand written assignments. Interestingly enough any kind of math equation or number comes out crystal clear and is a picture of perfection.
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
September 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#344
I basically write in CAPS when I write by hand. So it's very readable but not girly, get compliments about it all the time
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leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
September 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#345
If I take my time then it's average at best but rushing/fast note-taking than it's easily below average but still readable by others.
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
September 06 2011 22:01 GMT
#346
On September 07 2011 06:42 BouBou.865 wrote:
I basically write in CAPS when I write by hand. So it's very readable but not girly, get compliments about it all the time

If it's true that your handwriting tells something about your personality then I can imagine how someone who writes in all CAPS is like, jk.

My handwriting is quite bad. It's quite legible to everyone else, but it looks like a mad kid could not decide if it wants to write in cursive or italic so it's all messed up. It's quite big too which adds to that impression.
RaidenDude
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway21 Posts
September 06 2011 22:03 GMT
#347
My letters often overlap, and if someone is going to read my stuff, they take their time.
Needless to say, i'm not the greatest writer, but, compared to some of my friends it's not horrible either.
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darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
September 06 2011 22:05 GMT
#348
my friends say it takes 1 to 2 month to understand what i have writen
divide et vinces
Thane421
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands40 Posts
September 06 2011 22:05 GMT
#349
I can barely read my own handwriting so I guess it's pretty bad
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
September 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#350
On September 06 2011 09:24 Detri wrote:
Dip a spider in ink, let it walk over a page, *VOILA* my handwriting


Same but, dip a retarded spider who only has 3 legs, drop him an entire tab of acid then spin him around until he is really dizzy then throw him at the paper.....

Well its not that bad I guess, I am really surprised how the examination boards at my University(ies) have been able to read what I have written :/
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BlackFlag
Profile Joined September 2010
499 Posts
September 06 2011 22:12 GMT
#351
I write REALLY ugly, I often have problems to even read it myself when I have to write fast at University. But I can't for the hell of it write with a laptop at University because I can't do lines and arrows fast enough to connect different thougts.
MrBludgeon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
September 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#352
It really depends on what I'm actually writing. If they're notes for class, my handwriting is absolutely terrible since my professors have a habit of filling up the board in about 5 minutes then erasing random parts of it for more room -_-. On the other hand, if I'm writing a rough draft of a proof, for example, my handwriting looks pretty decent (since I may have to go up to my professor's office and ask him something regarding said proof).

Anything I turn in is typed up in LaTeX though, so my handwriting generally doesn't matter =P.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
September 06 2011 22:26 GMT
#353
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I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 22:32:57
September 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#354
On September 06 2011 17:48 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 09:18 Ardhimas wrote:
Poll: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

Below average. (1139)
 
65%

Better than average. (325)
 
19%

Average, (287)
 
16%

1751 total votes

Your vote: How is your handwriting, legibility and neatness-wise?

(Vote): Better than average.
(Vote): Average,
(Vote): Below average.



I've always been curious about this, especially considering we are all Starcraft players, meaning we are at least 98% males. This really means at least 70% of us if not much more of us actually have worse than average handwriting.

Fix that for you.


haha probably a fair assumption. I know very few male friends who write well, whereas most of my female friends / classmates write as if it was their proffession ^_^

On September 07 2011 07:26 rel wrote:
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No way in hell you're doing exclamation marks like that when you're writing for yourself. No way in hell. Especially if you're jotting down notes or so.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
September 06 2011 22:32 GMT
#355
I can`t even print neatly. Especially when I am trying to write fast, I screw up letters and sometimes don`t even complete them properly. I write too small and I hold the pen/pencil too hard.
Hedgehog
Profile Joined May 2011
Macedonia73 Posts
September 06 2011 22:33 GMT
#356
My handwriting is often titled as "Hieroglyphs, failrunes, toewriting"... I have kind of doctorish handwriting which even for me sometimes is tricky to read.
Divide et impera
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
September 06 2011 22:36 GMT
#357
This poll is flawed. There cannot be more than half below average! Unless.. there's a connection between terrible handwriting and visiting Starcraft forums! :o
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
September 06 2011 22:38 GMT
#358
Being that I have written graffiti style lettering and the fact that I usually write things in all caps on paper, I have a pretty illegible style and legible style when I want to. Letters are art too and I've seen and tried to write letters in a million different ways so I think I'm above average in both reading and writing legibility.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
September 06 2011 22:39 GMT
#359
My handwriting is unstable. I used to be left-handed but only for writing, hence they switched me to the right-hand when I was 7. I am capable of drawing nice letters but not of developing a consistent readable and pretty writing style.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 22:40:38
September 06 2011 22:40 GMT
#360
On September 07 2011 07:36 Wivyx wrote:
This poll is flawed. There cannot be more than half below average! Unless.. there's a connection between terrible handwriting and visiting Starcraft forums! :o

There is also just the plain correlation of any internet based poll. The people have to have a computer, visit general forums and read threads and post (usually). There are a lot of SC players who don't forum, even really good players.
So basically any poll on this website or any is not really a legitimate way to conduct the survey.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 06 2011 22:40 GMT
#361
I write in mixed cursive/print. Some teachers compliment me. Others comment on how its not good. I guess that averages to average.

Still, I type most everything. And by that I mean everything I can.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
September 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#362
my hand writing is god awful... and when i teach i have to write extra-slowly so kids can read it well... really sucks
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
September 06 2011 22:44 GMT
#363
This thread also reminds me of that troll thread of analyzing people's handwriting

Here is what I posted there:

What do you guys rate my handwriting?

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Poll: Rate my writing

average (12)
 
44%

below average (9)
 
33%

terrible (5)
 
19%

above average (1)
 
4%

excellent (0)
 
0%

27 total votes

Your vote: Rate my writing

(Vote): terrible
(Vote): below average
(Vote): average
(Vote): above average
(Vote): excellent





A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 06 2011 22:47 GMT
#364
Ladies usually have much better handwriting than men. Mine is nowhere near the level of chicks but it's defiantly readable for everyone I'd say. Which for me is satisfying. :D
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 22:52:34
September 06 2011 22:52 GMT
#365
Chicken scratch yo, chicken scratch.


edit --- this thread has me laughing hard... I'm not so ashamed of my hand writing anymore
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
lightson
Profile Joined July 2010
45 Posts
September 06 2011 22:59 GMT
#366
Terrible, only I can read my own writing without having to pause every few words to figure out the next. Infact, my writing is so bad that I stuggle when having to write/fill in formal documents and such (ie. loan, job applications, landing forms, tests, etc) that I usually have to ask for another copy as my first one was "Below Average".
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
September 06 2011 23:32 GMT
#367
I can draw very well and precisely but my hand writting is soooooo bad, It almost seems I didn't improve since I was 8...
Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
September 06 2011 23:44 GMT
#368
This just in - Gamers can't write worth a shit hahahaha
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#369
I think hardly legible is the average. Not many young people now still practice their handwriting, and thus it becomes rusty/sloppy.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
September 06 2011 23:55 GMT
#370
My handwriting is so bad that I was given a typing device in High School (I have no idea what to call it, it was a keyboard with a tiny black and white LCD screen), but that proved to be more of a hassle than a benefit. I've been diagnosed with dysgraphia and I'm also left handed, which pretty much makes my writing look like one big smudge and scribbles.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 06 2011 23:56 GMT
#371
I don't write at all. If I did try to write something, it would be like frankenstein
Scap
Profile Joined October 2010
United States60 Posts
September 07 2011 00:23 GMT
#372
I have hilariously (and notoriously) difficult to read cursive, ESPECIALLY when note taking. I can read what I wrote but other people can't.
I feel so bad for the kids I TA who have to read my comments..
M0nsterChef
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada67 Posts
September 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#373
My handwriting sucked in elementary and I often lost marks for it but now in high school it doesn't seem to matter how messy it is.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#374
Far better than average for most males, slightly better than average overall. Females in general have better handwriting.
giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
September 07 2011 00:45 GMT
#375
i have terrible chicken scratch hand writing. luckily there are keyboards
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Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
September 07 2011 01:02 GMT
#376
Every time I have to write/sign something I cringe... I just know they're going to think I'm retarded.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 07 2011 01:04 GMT
#377
You need a new option. "The worst I've ever seen."

Unfortunately my handwriting bounces between "decent but girly," to "terrible, terrible damage to my eyes."
kiss kiss fall in love
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
September 07 2011 03:01 GMT
#378
My writing is tiny so it can be hard to read at times. In general I believe females have better handwriting than males.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
zenith8
Profile Joined October 2010
55 Posts
September 07 2011 12:38 GMT
#379
[image loading]

As long as its readable

If I'd really wanted to I could get it neat but it requires a lot of concentration, time and effort and snail pace writing. It isn't practical to write neat for me when your just scribbling down lecture notes or when you only have 15 minutes left to finish writing an essay in an exam.

Girls in my opinion generally have neater handwriting than boys because in our formative school years whilst we are playing games on the computer girls have those glittery flamboyant colourful "secret diaries" where they write up all kinds of silly things like "which boy I like, who I hate, my dream wedding etc"

If anything give it a few years down the track and what you would consider "neat" handwriting today may only be legible to experts due to the advent of technology. Just like how it is really hard to read those old middle age English manuscripts (Think of those big heavy books that were written with a feather and ink). Although the pen and paper will still exist for a long time because of portability.

Oh and if you haven't already seen it Artosis' handwriting :D



TLDR: neat writing takes time, girls have neat writing coz of silly girly diaries, people in the future will have trouble reading our writing of today.
Altar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States577 Posts
September 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#380
I've been told that I have girl's handwriting because its so neat and clean. Even my signature is like perfect because I can't stand doing it so no one can read it.
Heavens to Betsy
Iphimedeia
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong50 Posts
September 07 2011 12:53 GMT
#381
my writing is really neat but its really small and some of my teachers are like why did you write so small even though its legible though you might have to look closely to be able to read it but i can read mine fine though loll :D
"Every shooting star has a shadow - If you want the rainbow you have to put up with the rain" :)
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
September 07 2011 12:53 GMT
#382
I really hate my handwriting. Girls and teachers say it's not as messy and bad as other boys because it's easily readable, but I think it's really aesthetic.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Bertolt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States75 Posts
September 07 2011 12:56 GMT
#383
There is very little hand eye coordination associated with playing starcraft as far as my knowledge.
Just because you are a character, dosnt mean you have character
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 07 2011 12:58 GMT
#384
A lot of people I know are overly critical of their own handwriting. E.g. they always apologise "sorry for my bad handwriting" when in actuality it's pretty good.

i'm kind of the opposite. i consider my handwriting normal and i can read it perfectly but most people struggle to read it
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 07 2011 13:01 GMT
#385
I CAN write decently if I try. But a scribble is just so much faster.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 13:02:52
September 07 2011 13:02 GMT
#386
well mine is beautiful but unreadable if I dont try extra hard..comfirmed by a lot of teachers/profs.
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
September 07 2011 13:03 GMT
#387
my handwriting is like below than below average. I sometimes find hard to read my own writing and i dont really know how to improved it.
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TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
September 07 2011 13:17 GMT
#388
If I actually try I can write really well and pretty but usually I'm in a hurry and then struggle later to decipher my own heiroglyphics.
When I feed the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why the poor have no food they call me a socialist
xlnt
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden106 Posts
September 07 2011 13:20 GMT
#389
My handwriting is terribad.. but some days it feels just right and I can read everything I write, some days it's just horseshit and when I see what I wrote a few days later I don't know what it says. >.<!

But I guess that's how it is for most people in the IT business, you just write emails all the time and no paper anymore..
roxxor?
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
September 07 2011 13:41 GMT
#390
Mine is absolutely horrendous. Probably the worst out of anyone I know. I can try and make it understandable if it's supposed to be understandable to others, like an exam, but if it's just homework or something it becomes a complete mess that few can decipher. I can usually read it okay myself, though.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 14:50:21
September 07 2011 14:49 GMT
#391
It often depends. But its more on the atrocious end of the spectrum, especially on bad days.

Typically its better at the beginning of the semester than at the end.

Sometimes different classes employ different note-taking techniques, so that influences "neatness" in handwriting

Heres a photo of two classes.. at polarizing ends of the class spectrum too. One is a graduate-level class, one is a 100-level class that i need for my last "general education" credits.

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Often times I can read them just fine, but there are times where it just gets messy.
Matuka
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 14:51:12
September 07 2011 14:50 GMT
#392
I like how below average is actually the average. :D (Blatantly taking it out of context).
Anyways mine is atrocious, probably because I hold my pen in a very obscure way.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7887 Posts
September 07 2011 14:56 GMT
#393
Very girly and very readable.

When I take care of it, it's rather nice and very very neat.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
September 07 2011 15:07 GMT
#394
My hand writing is bi-polar. Sometimes it's very neat, other times it looks like a 1st graders handwriting.
CCitrus
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada164 Posts
September 07 2011 15:19 GMT
#395
Definitely readable, but I have a bad habit of switching between printing and handwriting without noticing. Anyone else do the same?
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 15:48:23
September 07 2011 15:44 GMT
#396
My handwriting is also average. No teacher at my school has really complained about it, although I think that it looks pretty bland. Then again, I constantly try to improve my handwriting, but there are limiting factors; one of which is that there isn't time to improve on it when there is so much work to do.
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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
September 07 2011 21:42 GMT
#397

On September 07 2011 07:36 Wivyx wrote:
This poll is flawed. There cannot be more than half below average! Unless.. there's a connection between terrible handwriting and visiting Starcraft forums! :o


I think this can be explained by the fact that girls generally have better handwriting
Writer
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
September 07 2011 21:44 GMT
#398
I don't write neatly, my friends often remark it looks like a 6 year old's work
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Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
September 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#399
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Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
September 07 2011 22:07 GMT
#400
In my opinion, my handwriting is neater than a lot of the guys that I know, but definitely worse than a majority of the girls that I know. I write neater when I write smaller (perhaps less margin for error) and when I write big shit hits the fan.
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
September 07 2011 23:16 GMT
#401
Average, I'd say.

I remember back in middle school I sought to make each letter as efficient as I could (for example, when I write a "d" after I have carried the vertical line to the top, I don't bring it back down to the baseline like I see most people do). This had led to some letters becoming sloppy, but over all these years think how much lead I've saved!
=)=
alurlol
Profile Joined October 2010
England197 Posts
September 07 2011 23:23 GMT
#402
I used to write neatly at school but ever since it's gone to shit. It's not ineligible par se, it's just that before I used to take time writing each word whereas now it's just quick motions to go as quickly as possible, as long as it's 'readable' then that's ok for me.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 07 2011 23:25 GMT
#403
One conversation is universal for when people see my handwriting.

Dude do you like spiders?

Me: No i fucking hate them why?

Well, a dying one just crawled across your nice new paper.

- English humour sucks ass when it isnt rude.
Useless wet fish.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
September 07 2011 23:29 GMT
#404
so.... if so many people think they are below average, then the average must be quite low?
sup
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