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Nawyria
Netherlands140 Posts
On September 05 2011 06:54 Skoop wrote: It'll be sick when it's revealed that this is an elaborate Half-Life 3 teaser. It does remind one of the sounds the combine make, doesn't it? But I highly doubt it though, Valve has yet to release HL2:EP3, so chances of seeing HL3 all of the sudden seem very slim. | ||
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SonicTitan
United States249 Posts
On September 05 2011 08:51 beg wrote: you cannot prove things right in science. just saying, just saying... science works like this: you make up a theory (can be complete fantasy) and test if it's more useful than what people believed beforehands. but yea, without showing that a theory is useful, the theory counts as rubbish mostly. stating "this is viral marketing" isn't particularly useful or insightful at all though, because there's no way for you to show that it actually could be viral marketing. but it's a valid theory up to discussion! absolutely! but please dont make claims in the name of science if you dont understand how it works. ty ty. maybe you think that there's some incongruences in what i wrote... feel free to ask... i'm a little drunk and too lazy to phrase everything perfectly... but let me sum up for you what you were doing: 1) telling people that they need proof 2) making claims without proof. that's not science. sry. There are not enough faces to palm... I tried. What else can I say. EDIT: You know what? Fuck it. I KNOW you can't prove things definitively with science. That's not why I posted. The point is, the OP posted a bunch of videos making a fantastic claim, with the implication that they were true, then when someone called bullshit, someone ELSE got their panties in a wad. At which point I opined that when faced with a fantastic claim with zero proof to the theory, we have every right to call bullshit. None of which your post actually addressed, of course. I love alcohol as much as the next guy, but for fuck's sake, don't post drunk. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:01 Nawyria wrote: It does remind one of the sounds the combine make, doesn't it? But I highly doubt it though, Valve has yet to release HL2:EP3, so chances of seeing HL3 all of the sudden seem very slim. Actually it isn't, I think they'll announce/release EP3 at the same time as they announce Half-Life 3 now that they've added Portal to the universe (I think they're implanting the portal gun into HL3 or perhaps even EP3) | ||
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Mafs
Canada458 Posts
On September 05 2011 08:13 gosuMalicE wrote: Why are these stupid conspiracy/hoax threads always on the front page... UFO's Bears mercy killing cubs then committing suicide (I'm sorry this did NOT happen, obvious fake news ffs) Now a Chinese government official murder/suicide conspiracy thread and this... Mods need to start closing this garbage. Why. Im just giving out information about these strange noises. This isnt a hoax unless private companys can make massive sounds which shake buildings that are undetectable. I want to know the cause of these sounds. And if you have a legit answer please say so. There are plenty of new sources in this thread from me and other posters that these sounds are real. If you think this is some conspiracy then you are the one spreading that crap. | ||
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Elzar
Germany204 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:05 SonicTitan wrote: There are not enough faces to palm... I tried. What else can I say. You could reply to my post maybe? | ||
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:06 Krehlmar wrote: Actually it isn't, I think they'll announce/release EP3 at the same time as they announce Half-Life 3 now that they've added Portal to the universe (I think they're implanting the portal gun into HL3 or perhaps even EP3) Why must it take them so many years to give us what we all want, EP3 or HL3. erg. my brain hurts. | ||
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Elzar
Germany204 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:05 SonicTitan wrote: There are not enough faces to palm... I tried. What else can I say. EDIT: You know what? Fuck it. I KNOW you can't prove things definitively with science. That's not why I posted. The point is, the OP posted a bunch of videos making a fantastic claim, with the implication that they were true, then when someone called bullshit, someone ELSE got their panties in a wad. At which point I opined that when faced with a fantastic claim with zero proof to the theory, we have every right to call bullshit. None of which your post actually addressed, of course. I love alcohol as much as the next guy, but for fuck's sake, don't post drunk. Seriously, what is wrong with you? The OP hasn't made any claims at all. "My question to the tl community is what is the source of these sounds?" Maybe i'm just blind, but could you quote the claims OP has made, because i can't find any of them. | ||
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SonicTitan
United States249 Posts
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:12 SonicTitan wrote: Already seen. Well aren't you special? You forgot the [hipster] [/hipster] tag in your post. | ||
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Elzar
Germany204 Posts
Still waiting for the quotes of the claims you said the OP has made ... Could be hard to find because he didn't make any claims, but take your time. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
It looks like a small set (2 or 3) of sounds that have been acoustically transposed up and down and then overlaid on each other. Its hard to really neatly unpack a messy audio file like this, but the strongest evidence for it is that a lot of the sounds that have identical pitch also have identical duration-- not something we'd expect if it was a natural phenomenon, or even a recorded sound. EDIT: Also, the sounds are 'layered' in the spectrograph, also indicating its acoustically altered. I'll upload a screenshot in a sec. | ||
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Elzar
Germany204 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:22 caradoc wrote: I extracted the Kiev file and played around with it a bit in praat/audacity. It looks like a small set (2 or 3) of sounds that have been acoustically transposed up and down and then overlaid on each other. Its hard to really neatly unpack a messy audio file like this, but the strongest evidence for it is that a lot of the sounds that have identical pitch also have identical duration-- not something we'd expect if it was a natural phenomenon, or even a recorded sound. Some guys said the sounds from kiev were actually construction works. http://englishrussia.com/2011/07/18/the-construction-of-the-new-underground-station-in-kiev/ So it's either that, aliens, the lizard people or fake. :D | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:22 caradoc wrote: I extracted the Kiev file and played around with it a bit in praat/audacity. It looks like a small set (2 or 3) of sounds that have been acoustically transposed up and down and then overlaid on each other. Its hard to really neatly unpack a messy audio file like this, but the strongest evidence for it is that a lot of the sounds that have identical pitch also have identical duration-- not something we'd expect if it was a natural phenomenon, or even a recorded sound. I don't get it... have anyone even checked if it isn't just the person filming added the sound ? And before you say "Well what about people around the world !" just google alien sighting, ghosts or whatever... trust me there a millions of people across the world who claim all matter of things. This is like the idiocy that more Americans believe in aliens visiting/abducting than in evolution... EDIT: Not meant to condescend the person I replied to, just the concept of an explanation other than a rational one with a skeptical approach. | ||
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Mafs
Canada458 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:11 Elzar wrote: Seriously, what is wrong with you? The OP hasn't made any claims at all. "My question to the tl community is what is the source of these sounds?" Maybe i'm just blind, but could you quote the claims OP has made, because i can't find any of them. Lots of people hear like to put words(or text) into peoples mouths.The only possible claim I could have made is these sounds are real. Which I think when several different videos, witnesses(in science these mean nothing, that I know) and news reports that is enough "evidence" for me to say these sounds are real. And their source is unknown. Lots of people on youtube and other sites are saying these are caused by HAARP, which is valid but I don't know enough about HAARP or the evidence behind this claim to say this is a plausible source of the sounds. In Kiev there is a tunnel being build and the news video says(I understand Russian, and ukranian is close enough for me to understand at least 60% of the video) that this is a video hoax and someone edited this footage and there are no witnesses that live in the area that heard these sounds. Which is a completely plausible explaination. If it isnt construction, it is a hoax in Ukrain. But the windsor/florida and videos from other regions are not explainable by construction(presumably because councillor said there is no contruction going on in that area). They are not a hoax either because plenty of people called the police, and dailing 911 for a giant hoax multiple times is extremely unsafe and if this is some movie promotion then they will probably be arrested for those unnessacary calls to 911. The councillor will lose his job and all witnesses have lied. (windsor area is where the 911 calls took place, I have no idea about the florida video or any other regions videos like these came from) From the evidence that I have seen and the footage taken there really is no plausible source of these sounds that I can think of, if someone else can and support it with evidence I will be glad to accept that explaintion, because I will not accept "this is an alien UFO/collosus making noises for their own giant global project". | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:26 Krehlmar wrote: This is like the idiocy that more Americans believe in aliens visiting/abducting than in evolution... I was immediately saddened upon reading this... because of how painfully true it is... | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:00 rebuffering wrote: Maybe, dont drink and post. Just sayin... my understanding of science is above my drunkeness. ty. maybe try to dicuss what i posted, but obviously you aren't able to. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
I'd be pretty confident saying its a single sound or three that are acoustically altered, layered, and re-mixed into a single file. i.e. someone just mixed it with software. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fiRaQ.png) | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:05 SonicTitan wrote: There are not enough faces to palm... I tried. What else can I say. EDIT: You know what? Fuck it. I KNOW you can't prove things definitively with science. That's not why I posted. The point is, the OP posted a bunch of videos making a fantastic claim, with the implication that they were true, then when someone called bullshit, someone ELSE got their panties in a wad. At which point I opined that when faced with a fantastic claim with zero proof to the theory, we have every right to call bullshit. None of which your post actually addressed, of course. I love alcohol as much as the next guy, but for fuck's sake, don't post drunk. you could try phrasing your point of view in other words than "LOLOLOL FACEPALMS DELUXE". OP hasn't made claims at all. he posted videos of kiev, not commenting them, and posting videos of windsor, giving comments about why they are possibly real. ohh noeees. gogogog flame. the only problem with OP is that he did not make any visible distinctions between two probably unrelated "unexplained sound phenomenons". so if anyone of you would criticise him for this... ALRIGHT. you're correct. but other than that... please try to discuss this on a higher level than you do right now. ty. | ||
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Outsited
United States189 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/outsited/moleman.jpg) Theres no escape from the Mole People | ||
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Elzar
Germany204 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:26 Krehlmar wrote: I don't get it... have anyone even checked if it isn't just the person filming added the sound ? And before you say "Well what about people around the world !" just google alien sighting, ghosts or whatever... trust me there a millions of people across the world who claim all matter of things. This is like the idiocy that more Americans believe in aliens visiting/abducting than in evolution... Just saying, i think when a person says he has seen a ufo / alien / ghost whatever, that person actually did see something so it's not like they're just making it up (sure, some of them make it up). Something was there, they experienced something, but it doesn't have to be the thing they claimed they saw. He saw a UFO and thought it was aliens from space, turns out it was a weather balloon. The point i'm trying to make is, that person saw something, just like all those people heard something. Now what it is, we still have to find out. On September 05 2011 09:26 Krehlmar wrote: EDIT: Not meant to condescend the person I replied to, just the concept of an explanation other than a rational one with a skeptical approach. /sign I don't want to make any claims of the origin of the sounds as long as i'm not provided with all the facts needed to make such claim, but i also don't want to say "it's fake" or "they're just imagining thing" either for the same reason. | ||
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