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Canada11372 Posts
On January 04 2012 14:55 xDaunt wrote:
Far too often this thread is like watching a bunch of Klu Klux Klan members debate who should be the next head of the NAACP.
Show of hands -- how many people here are actually registered republicans?
I voted Alliance (which most Canadians will find that fact rather distasteful) and then Conservative federally in Canada. Of course that makes me a commy in US political terms. (Our flag is red after all.)
I also vote Liberal provincially (economic conservative party) rather than the NDP, big government-union party.
I've never voted for any left of centre party in Canada.
I just find it fascinating how right-wing corporatist both parties are in the US.
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On January 04 2012 14:55 xDaunt wrote:
Far too often this thread is like watching a bunch of Klu Klux Klan members debate who should be the next head of the NAACP.
Show of hands -- how many people here are actually registered republicans?
you dont need to be a republican to follow republican politics? granted im a HUGE liberal but i still love watching both sides and following what both parties are saying even if i dont agree with one
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On January 04 2012 14:55 xDaunt wrote:
Far too often this thread is like watching a bunch of Klu Klux Klan members debate who should be the next head of the NAACP.
Show of hands -- how many people here are actually registered republicans?
Flamebait aside, there's somewhat more to the Republican nominations than registered republicans.
I'm going to guess that 99% of non-US TLers and maybe 70% of US TLers who have posted in this thread are not registered republicans. Out of that 30% of registered US republicans, if TL is representative of the US population as a whole for, say, people who make more than median income, perhaps 5-10% will actually vote for a candidate.
Probably somewhat less, considering how young the average user of TL is.
Of course, these numbers are completely arbitrary and wild guesses. Something tells me that they're still an overestimate, though.
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On January 04 2012 15:12 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 14:55 xDaunt wrote:
Far too often this thread is like watching a bunch of Klu Klux Klan members debate who should be the next head of the NAACP.
Show of hands -- how many people here are actually registered republicans? Flamebait aside, there's somewhat more to the Republican nominations than registered republicans. I'm going to guess that 99% of non-US TLers and maybe 70% of US TLers who have posted in this thread are not registered republicans. Out of that 30% of registered US republicans, if TL is representative of the US population as a whole for, say, people who make more than median income, perhaps 5-10% will actually vote for a candidate. Probably somewhat less, considering how young the average user of TL is.
Hahaha. Every time I reload the page the numbers on this change. First 80%, then 60%, now we have a synthesis at 70%.
What's motivating all this? Am I just going insane?
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On January 04 2012 15:17 frogrubdown wrote:
Hahaha. Every time I reload the page the numbers on this change. First 80%, then 60%, now we have a synthesis at 70%.
What's motivating all this? Am I just going insane?
It's not you. I simply don't know much about TL's demographics. Though it changed from 60% to 70%, I don't think I used 80% anywhere.
It's probably closer to 80% than 70%, on third thought. If you assume that registered democrats are roughly equal, that's saying 40% of US TLers are registered voters, which is still super optimistic.
There should be a self-report thread for the age of TL users somewhere, but I can't find it.
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On January 04 2012 14:34 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 14:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney still loses either way as both sides are blasting him for spending somewhere over 9 million dollars in bashing Newt etc. showing that he certainly isn't so middle class after all.
Also listening to Santorum, fucking moron. tell us how you REALLY feel about santorum? hes got ideas that will play very well to the base
He's a moron no debate about it. He wants to make contraception illegal and wants government out of people's lives yet believes gay couples don't deserve to be even seen let alone heard. That is just one of his positions.
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I was originally all doom and gloom over Paul's near win. But then i realized, that that's how much support he has in the republican and independent crowds, the democrats haven't had a chance to boost his numbers. Could still be looking good going into NH
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On January 04 2012 15:20 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 14:34 Deathmanbob wrote:On January 04 2012 14:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney still loses either way as both sides are blasting him for spending somewhere over 9 million dollars in bashing Newt etc. showing that he certainly isn't so middle class after all.
Also listening to Santorum, fucking moron. tell us how you REALLY feel about santorum? hes got ideas that will play very well to the base He's a moron no debate about it. He wants to make contraception illegal and wants government out of people's lives yet believes gay couples don't deserve to be even seen let alone heard. That is just one of his positions.
oh i know, its great isnt it? as a democrat i really really hope he wins the republican nomination 
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Santorum's tax plan:
-Replace the current individual rate structure with just two rates—10 and 28 percent
-Lower rates on capital gains and dividends to 12 percent
-Triple the personal exemption for dependent children and keep the refundable earned income and child tax credits
-Retain tax preferences for charitable giving, mortgage interest, health care, and retirement savings
-Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax
-Cut the corporate rate in half to 17.5 percent. Manufacturers would pay no income tax
-Allow full expensing for capital investment
-Increase the R&D tax credit to 20 percent
-Allow multinationals to bring foreign earnings back to the U.S. at a 5.25 percent tax rate but at a zero rate if they used the funds to buy “manufacturer’s equipment”
+ Show Spoiler +http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2012/01/03/rick-santorum%E2%80%99s-tax-plan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+taxpolicycenter%2Fblogfeed+%28TaxVox%3A+the+Tax+Policy+Center+blog%29
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goddamnit Iowa, stop voting for fucking Rick Santorum.
EDIT - On a positive note, I like the positive vibes coming from the Ron's website:
+ Show Spoiler +“The Ron Paul campaign is celebrating a great victory tonight.
“There were three tickets out of Iowa, and Ron Paul earned one of them.
“One of the three tickets, the one belonging to Rick Santorum, is a dead-end due to Santorum’s weak fundraising and lack of national campaign organization.
“This is now a two way race between establishment candidate Mitt Romney and the candidate for real change, Ron Paul.
“Ron Paul has a top notch national organization, tremendous fundraising prowess, and unequaled enthusiasm among his volunteers and supporters.
“Dr. Paul has taken the first step towards earning the delegates it will take to be the GOP nominee and is the only candidate not named Mitt Romney with the ability to do so.
“Ron Paul is now off to New Hampshire, South Carolina, Louisiana, Nevada, Maine, North Dakota, Washington, Colorado, and beyond.
“See you on the campaign trail.”
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On January 04 2012 14:55 xDaunt wrote:
Far too often this thread is like watching a bunch of Klu Klux Klan members debate who should be the next head of the NAACP.
Show of hands -- how many people here are actually registered republicans?
Here! Since 2008.
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Huntsman got 744 votes. Bachmann got 6,064.
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On the plus side, Cain got 58.
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Sometimes I think CNN purposely acts stupid when it comes to political coverage.
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How is Santorum anywhere NEAR the top in Iowa? Like honestly, wtf...
I mean I understand the people with the "anyone but Romney" mindset, but Santorum?
And for the record, since xDaunt asked above, I am very certainly not registered Republican, and never will be. 
But I am still rooting for Ron Paul. I would honestly vote for him over Obama, if given the chance.
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Romney might actually pull off the win but just barely.
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On January 04 2012 15:18 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 15:17 frogrubdown wrote:
Hahaha. Every time I reload the page the numbers on this change. First 80%, then 60%, now we have a synthesis at 70%.
What's motivating all this? Am I just going insane? It's not you. I simply don't know much about TL's demographics. Though it changed from 60% to 70%, I don't think I used 80% anywhere. It's probably closer to 80% than 70%, on third thought. If you assume that registered democrats are roughly equal, that's saying 40% of US TLers are registered voters, which is still super optimistic. There should be a self-report thread for the age of TL users somewhere, but I can't find it.
Demographic info on internet use/non-political-forum use by members of the parties could also be useful.
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so after the first caucus it would seem that huntsman and perry are done, bachmann is looking to be out of the race, santorum is going to be low on funds and after his time in the light will be destroyed by the media, i think the real race is between romney, paul and gingrich, with romney being the obvious candidate but no one wants, paul and gingrich have baggage... we shall see how this race pans out.
i am hoping that paul or gingrich win the nomination. out of the 3 romney has the most to be thrown against him, especially considering his spending on destroying gingrich. i also don't think that he is the repubs first pick because he is mormon and created romneycare. while i am not religious i realize that a lot of repubs believe in the equivalent of a square circle.
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Romney team says he has won by 14 votes.
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Aren't the votes distributed proportionally? Aside from PR, does it really matter who wins?
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On January 04 2012 16:06 gchan wrote:
Aren't the votes distributed proportionally? Aside from PR, does it really matter who wins?
No but it makes Romney who predicted he would win, save face. It is basically a delegate tie.
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