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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
July 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#1281
He'll receive the maximum penalty of 21 years if convicted of having carried out a terrorist action, although taking into account the severity of the incident he might be placed into involuntary commitment if there is a risk of repeating the crime or if he is otherwise considered very dangerous. Involuntary commitment mustn't last longer than 21 years as a single conviction but it can be appealed for extension indefinitely for five year periods.
The cur foretells the knell of parting day; The loafing herd winds slowly o'er the lea; The wise man homeward plods; I only stay to fiddle-faddle in a minor key.
merin
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway52 Posts
July 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#1282
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" -Ghandi
merin
EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 20:53:26
July 23 2011 20:52 GMT
#1283
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


I didn't really elaborate because I didn't think I needed to.

What this individual did was disturbing and sickening, that however does not mean I am not entitled to my own political views.

I in no way condone what was done, and do feel sympathy & wish my deepest condolences for everyone affected by this incident.

PS:88 is my birth year smart guy.
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
July 23 2011 20:52 GMT
#1284
Html(its slow):

http://maanpuolustus.net/uploads/2083_A_European_Declaration_of_Independence/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
July 23 2011 20:53 GMT
#1285
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

I wouldn't be quite sure about that.
People who are against the spread of islam/multiculturalism in Europe won't change their opinion because of this massacre, where as he certainly did manage to draw some additional attention to those problems.

Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
sorvin
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel14 Posts
July 23 2011 20:54 GMT
#1286
On July 24 2011 05:51 merin wrote:
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" -Ghandi


+1
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
July 23 2011 20:56 GMT
#1287
my heart goes out to all the victims of both tragedies
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11792 Posts
July 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#1288
On July 24 2011 05:53 Xayoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

I wouldn't be quite sure about that.
People who are against the spread of islam/multiculturalism in Europe won't change their opinion because of this massacre, where as he certainly did manage to draw some additional attention to those problems.


If anything, he managed to draw attention to the problem of fucking batshit crazy nazi freaks.
Drteeth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Great Britain415 Posts
July 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#1289
On July 24 2011 05:36 Johndarke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:34 aderum wrote:
I just saw a beautiful picture made by a swede today..
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thought i would share it with you guys.


I found that picture very touching, as well.

Very tragic this whole thing is.


A simple and touching picture, our hearts to you all in Norway from the UK.
Nice cheese ....GG!
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 21:02:53
July 23 2011 21:00 GMT
#1290
On July 24 2011 05:52 EndOfTime88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


I didn't really elaborate because I didn't think I needed to.

What this individual did was disturbing and sickening, that however does not mean I am not entitled to my own political views.

I in no way condone what was done, and do feel sympathy condolences for everyone affected by this incident.

PS:88 is my birth year smart guy.


Considering that your very first comment to the shootings was that this "was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe" with the condolences following afterwards, the 88 might as well have meant something else.

It apparently didn't - fine - which still doesn't mean this is the right place to express your views. You're certainly entitled to them, whatever they might be, but that doesn't change the fact that your post was, as I said earlier, lacking respect.

-----

On another note, I had just found the time to read several of the translated blog posts and some exerpts from that 1.500 page monstrosity. The cold, cynical ramblings of the shooter and the terrified reports of the shocked youths make for a horribly chilling combination.
chronomancer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States29 Posts
July 23 2011 21:01 GMT
#1291
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


its a number................people like you are the reason that racial slurs still have their power its a effing word or a number its the context that's counts. ie: 311 the band could stand for kkk if you want to think that they are only trying to insult people

and i don't really get where his post is devoid of respect either every place has problems and he's making a statement that this dude if he really wanted change he went the completely wrong way to go about it. it's reality
koveras
Profile Joined January 2011
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 21:02:33
July 23 2011 21:02 GMT
#1292
This reminds me of the story of the unabomber. He had send bombs to important people who worked at airfields and universities. Eventually the FED's gave in to his demands and posted his manifesto in a newspaper or something. Than his brother recognized the manifesto and turned to the police and the unabomber whas caught shortly after. He stated that the reason for sending the bombs to people whas because he wanted attention for his manifesto and claimed that if he didnt kill no one would pay attention. Unfortunatly he got what he hoped for since I read the damn thing. So im guessing this massacre whas done for the same reason, to generate attention for his manifesto :/
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PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
July 23 2011 21:03 GMT
#1293
Oh man, heard about this just by now :s made me speechless and angry at the same time. Feeling so bad for all the victims and their families who has not done anything wrong to deserve shit like this. I hope this ain't terrorist attack(?), I just don't understand at all : (

This really doesnt help islamic community at all, another step back now. It is sad that it is just a small parties of islamic (extremists) who does this shit : (, I wonder what kind of this world would be without any religion?
EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
July 23 2011 21:04 GMT
#1294
On July 24 2011 06:00 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:52 EndOfTime88 wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


I didn't really elaborate because I didn't think I needed to.

What this individual did was disturbing and sickening, that however does not mean I am not entitled to my own political views.

I in no way condone what was done, and do feel sympathy condolences for everyone affected by this incident.

PS:88 is my birth year smart guy.


Considering that your very first comment to the shootings was that this "was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems withing Europe" with the condolences following afterwards, the 88 might as well have meant something else.

It apparently didn't - fine - which still doesn't mean this is the right place to express your views. You're certainly entitled to them, whatever they might be, but that doesn't change the fact that your post was, as I said earlier, lacking respect.



I agree in retrospect what I said was a little insensitive, and a thread about this tragedy isn't a place to try to spread ideas. If you look at my other post I make that clear.


"No need to get into it here, out of respect for the families and severity of the recent incident.

Just upsetting someone would act in this way and think it's beneficial to anyone."

I didn't come in here for a debate. This was a tragic event, that was senseless and did not need to occur.

The end.
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#1295
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Uuhm. Dude are you for real?
"The wrong way to bring attention to these problems?" Are you SICK?
"Hurt his cause?" WHAT?? Dude, could you please GET OUT of this thread? NOW?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
July 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#1296
On July 24 2011 06:03 PeZuY wrote:
Oh man, heard about this just by now :s made me speechless and angry at the same time. Feeling so bad for all the victims and their families who has not done anything wrong to deserve shit like this. I hope this ain't terrorist attack(?), I just don't understand at all : (

This really doesnt help islamic community at all, another step back now. It is sad that it is just a small parties of islamic (extremists) who does this shit : (, I wonder what kind of this world would be without any religion?



Um, this was not done by an islamist group. It was done by some neo-nazi motherfucker. Please read the OP, a newspaper, a newsite.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 21:09:10
July 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#1297
On July 24 2011 05:45 tharid wrote:
I just browsed over the manifesto with my roommate. We both were shocked about the rhetorical and logical strength of this document. I mean, look at the literature used; also the points about the Frankfurt School.

For everyone who did not read it yet: Beware, this compedium is pure poison. I have a feeling that it will spread out like fire in the future days, and it surely will hit some people who aren't as much aware of politics as I am.
I just watched the video and I have this creeping suspicion that it contains some truth (while I don't even want to), even if his methods are completely wrong. This could be pure poison indeed. Why do I get the feeling this wasn't the last of it.

Gah I feel ashamed now... but I can't help it. It's probably just my lack of knowledge on the matter.

Eye for an eye and the world will go blind.
EndOfTime88
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria259 Posts
July 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#1298
On July 24 2011 06:01 chronomancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


its a number................people like you are the reason that racial slurs still have their power its a effing word or a number its the context that's counts. ie: 311 the band could stand for kkk if you want to think that they are only trying to insult people

and i don't really get where his post is devoid of respect either every place has problems and he's making a statement that this dude if he really wanted change he went the completely wrong way to go about it. it's reality


Thank you.

I wasn't trying to make an ambiguous/disingenuous post, sorry it came off that way.
"Time is what we want most,but what we use worst."-William Penn
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
July 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#1299
Just read some of the manifest. I really have to warn you - this is a really hateful but scarely well-writtened.

This is exactly what he wanted the whole time and let us hope that it does not inspire other young people. It is that scary.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#1300
On July 24 2011 06:04 EndOfTime88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 06:00 Shockk wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:52 EndOfTime88 wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:47 Shockk wrote:
On July 24 2011 05:37 EndOfTime88 wrote:
This really was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems within Europe. More than anything acting this extreme has hurt his cause.

My condolences to all the families involved.


Despite your expression of condolences, your post is completely devoid of respect. Considering what you just wrote, I'm hard-pressed not to interpret the "88" in your nickname too much. You better stop posting.


I didn't really elaborate because I didn't think I needed to.

What this individual did was disturbing and sickening, that however does not mean I am not entitled to my own political views.

I in no way condone what was done, and do feel sympathy condolences for everyone affected by this incident.

PS:88 is my birth year smart guy.


Considering that your very first comment to the shootings was that this "was the wrong way to bring attention to these problems withing Europe" with the condolences following afterwards, the 88 might as well have meant something else.

It apparently didn't - fine - which still doesn't mean this is the right place to express your views. You're certainly entitled to them, whatever they might be, but that doesn't change the fact that your post was, as I said earlier, lacking respect.



I agree in retrospect what I said was a little insensitive, and a thread about this tragedy isn't a place to try to spread ideas. If you look at my other post I make that clear.


"No need to get into it here, out of respect for the families and severity of the recent incident.

Just upsetting someone would act in this way and think it's beneficial to anyone."

I didn't come in here for a debate. This was a tragic event, that was senseless and did not need to occur.

The end.

Dude, NO ONE, really, NO ONE, wants your "ideas". Who are you to come to this thread an make posts like that? People are greving. Some even knew people who died there. And you really think anyone wants anyone here who is open for those "ideas" and sees those "problems"? Are you sane?
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