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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
April 16 2012 08:40 GMT
#2641
Short background notice about Breivik's strategy, that's been in Norwegian media:
Breivik doesn't recognize the court and is going to ask to be acquitted (not guilty). His lawyers are legally bound to co-operate with his wishes, so that's what they're going to ask for. Moreover, (don't know when this is going to happen, but) Breivik's lawyers will have the opportunity to call in various witnesses, including politicians and whatnot (there are going to be dozens). One of them is a man called mullah Krekar, who is a convicted terrorist and fanatical islamist, and Breivik hopes that he will confirm Breivik's world view of the West in constant war with Islam.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 09:10:42
April 16 2012 08:44 GMT
#2642
On April 16 2012 17:40 iMAniaC wrote:
Short background notice about Breivik's strategy, that's been in Norwegian media:
Breivik doesn't recognize the court and is going to ask to be acquitted (not guilty). His lawyers are legally bound to co-operate with his wishes, so that's what they're going to ask for. Moreover, (don't know when this is going to happen, but) Breivik's lawyers will have the opportunity to call in various witnesses, including politicians and whatnot (there are going to be dozens). One of them is a man called mullah Krekar, who is a convicted terrorist and fanatical islamist, and Breivik hopes that he will confirm Breivik's world view of the West in constant war with Islam.


Mullah Krekar, really? How is he reliable in any way. What on earth, wasn't he just put in jail for threatening Norwegian politicians with death for the second time? Meh, I guess I don't understand all this legal nonsense.

edit: Oh god, they're starting with World of Warcraft now. I get the feeling i'm about to be absolutely pissed off. As if there hasn't been enough nonsense about blaming WoW for Breivik's actions since it occurred.
memes are a dish best served dank
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
April 16 2012 09:13 GMT
#2643
Awh this is hillarious! Never thought I'd hear a rundown of what WoW is in a norwegian courtroom. They even refer to his 'Justicar' title.

I wonder if they would reflect on it if it was Dragonslayer instead..grasping for straws and reading too much into things, really.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
April 16 2012 09:16 GMT
#2644
Things you would never believe you will hear on a court room. "Gathering many co-players to kill a dragon". What the hell..
ElanMT
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands87 Posts
April 16 2012 09:18 GMT
#2645
Here we go again - games are the root of all evil in the world.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 09:20:37
April 16 2012 09:19 GMT
#2646
On April 16 2012 18:13 Neeh wrote:
Awh this is hillarious! Never thought I'd hear a rundown of what WoW is in a norwegian courtroom. They even refer to his 'Justicar' title.

I wonder if they would reflect on it if it was Dragonslayer instead..grasping for straws and reading too much into things, really.


No kidding, it was really weird listening to these people, all 35+ years of age, describing and being informed about WoW. I just sincerely, sincerely hope that they are able to give a decent perspective on it and see reason regarding the game. There's over 10 million people playing the game that haven't murdered anybody and that aren't influenced by the violent themes.

edit: Honestly, I don't think the fact that he plays WoW even bears significant mention in a courtroom. He probably drank water and breathed oxygen, too. I don't think that influenced his actions.
memes are a dish best served dank
Lokj
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands439 Posts
April 16 2012 09:20 GMT
#2647
On April 16 2012 18:13 Neeh wrote:
Awh this is hillarious! Never thought I'd hear a rundown of what WoW is in a norwegian courtroom. They even refer to his 'Justicar' title.

I wonder if they would reflect on it if it was Dragonslayer instead..grasping for straws and reading too much into things, really.


Hm, obviously Breivik took pride of this title and probably used it as a title in his Knights Templar movement.
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 09:26:54
April 16 2012 09:23 GMT
#2648
I remember an article a while back that linked to a video of his guild in wow killing a boss. And his character was tagged with a skull mark in-game for coordination's sake. And people actually thought it ment something...
"Oh noes his character has an evil skull on it, he must be truly evil".

On April 16 2012 18:20 Lokj wrote:

Hm, obviously Breivik took pride of this title and probably used it as a title in his Knights Templar movement.


There's no accident that he's displaying that certain title, sure. But I still think it's silly to read so much into it. I'm using 'Commander' myself, but that's cause I like the title, it's not cause I have any ties or admiration of military rank. I just think there's alot of other things you can focus on that pointless details like these.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
April 16 2012 09:31 GMT
#2649
There was almost like a collective hum of condescension when WoW was mentioned.

Oh, and also, I have the Crusader title.

It will only be a matter of time before I exact my vengeance upon a cruel society that has rejected me, no doubt.
memes are a dish best served dank
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
April 16 2012 09:34 GMT
#2650
Can't believe he pleaded not guilty and then said it was self defence. He's done for, but he's trolling the entire court in the process.
戦いの中に答えはある
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 16 2012 09:39 GMT
#2651
On April 16 2012 18:34 Gingerninja wrote:
Can't believe he pleaded not guilty and then said it was self defence. He's done for, but he's trolling the entire court in the process.

Its not that he thinks he isn't "guilty", its his own dumb protest against a court he doesn't think he is under. He has got such a twisted mind.
"NO" -Has
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
April 16 2012 10:12 GMT
#2652
The man cries (http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=51793).

Quite surprising, seeing as he's been ice cold for most of the trial.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
April 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#2653
On April 16 2012 19:12 Wivyx wrote:
The man cries (http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=51793).

Quite surprising, seeing as he's been ice cold for most of the trial.



he started crying when the focus was on his "work" so I think it's safe to say it's not a reaction of empathy, but rather a pretty selfish reaction
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
April 16 2012 10:22 GMT
#2654
On April 16 2012 19:14 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 19:12 Wivyx wrote:
The man cries (http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=51793).

Quite surprising, seeing as he's been ice cold for most of the trial.



he started crying when the focus was on his "work" so I think it's safe to say it's not a reaction of empathy, but rather a pretty selfish reaction


For sure. Still surprising to see... emotion.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
April 16 2012 10:38 GMT
#2655
On April 16 2012 19:22 Wivyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 19:14 Quotidian wrote:
On April 16 2012 19:12 Wivyx wrote:
The man cries (http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=51793).

Quite surprising, seeing as he's been ice cold for most of the trial.



he started crying when the focus was on his "work" so I think it's safe to say it's not a reaction of empathy, but rather a pretty selfish reaction


For sure. Still surprising to see... emotion.


It's not unusual for these sorts of killers to have emotions for themselves and their close ones, they just can't understand others feelings. It's a very selfish mind.
Set it ablaze!
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
April 16 2012 11:24 GMT
#2656
Argh, it's frustrating that I can't see the security footage. I understand, but nevertheless I'd like to know all I can about the case.
memes are a dish best served dank
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
April 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#2657
oh my god, can't believe they actually started pulling in world of warcraft. I am sure the teenagers that were involved with this were facepalming as much as I was, kind of sad tbh.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 15:07:57
April 16 2012 15:05 GMT
#2658
On April 16 2012 18:13 Neeh wrote:
Awh this is hillarious! Never thought I'd hear a rundown of what WoW is in a norwegian courtroom. They even refer to his 'Justicar' title.

I wonder if they would reflect on it if it was Dragonslayer instead..grasping for straws and reading too much into things, really.

Well, that Justicar title proves that he's really into PvP. You have to grind thousands of BGs to get that title. Seems like real life too.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 16 2012 15:10 GMT
#2659
Seeing him crying is surreal. Obviously his mind is as twisted as it gets, but still ... surreal.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
April 16 2012 16:40 GMT
#2660
On April 17 2012 00:10 Shockk wrote:
Seeing him crying is surreal. Obviously his mind is as twisted as it gets, but still ... surreal.


it's bs imo, he saw a lot of kids die by his hands while he didn't stop until police intervened, it's crying though pride more than anything else if you ask me
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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