EPTNavy "ghost ships" cost 300 million dollars - Page 6
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Kar98
Australia924 Posts
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Pai Mei
Hong Kong16 Posts
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GameTime
United States222 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On July 26 2011 17:29 GameTime wrote: The 300 million doesn't even scratch the 692 billion defense budget. While it's a shame I think the bigger issue here is why are we (The US) wasting so much money on defense? The amount we spend on our military is comparable to the rest of the world put together which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm pretty sure most of the money is spent on upkeep. Also, America has the "Best" mentality. We HAVE to have the best weapons, the best ships, the best tanks, the best technology. And we do. We also spend a retarded amount of money on it because defense contractors jack the prices up because there's literally only one or two big companies that the US can go to for technology. Being in the defense industry is so prosperous on the contractor side, you can say "this weapon needs 5 billion in spending" when it only needs 2 million, the US cannot just say, "No fuck you" because there is no one else to go to. | ||
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Chargelot
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On July 26 2011 17:29 GameTime wrote: The 300 million doesn't even scratch the 692 billion defense budget. While it's a shame I think the bigger issue here is why are we (The US) wasting so much money on defense? The amount we spend on our military is comparable to the rest of the world put together which is absolutely ridiculous. More people want us dead. Not trying to brag or anything, but we're a pretty sexy target. | ||
Electric.Jesus
Germany755 Posts
Bottom line: yeah, wasting $300 million sucks, but its only the tiniest tip of the iceberg. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On July 26 2011 17:47 Electric.Jesus wrote: $300 million is nothing when it comes to wasting tax-payer money. In Germany we have the so called Black Book of Taxes which lists- in detail - all incidents of obvious taxpayer money waste. It usually sums up to 30-40 billion Euros each year. Given that the US has four times the amount of taxpayers, I think cumulative taxpayer money waste would easily hit the three digit billions in the US. Bottom line: yeah, wasting $300 million sucks, but its only the tiniest tip of the iceberg. The United States has a similar thing, in reports done by the Government Accountability Office. Waste in any organization large or small is inevitable, and 300 million is indeed a drop in the bucket, especially when you look at the amount of waste that goes into typical R&D projects, as part of the nature of the game. | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
What? I meant that the author of the article does not understand economics. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On July 26 2011 17:34 Chargelot wrote: More people want us dead. Not trying to brag or anything, but we're a pretty sexy target. I'm pretty sure USA is the most feared country military-wise. I don't see any foreign country willing to get in any war against USA, this would be pure suicide. USA has always done pre-emptive strikes that revealed to be about securing geo-strategical and economical key spots in the occupated countries. You might still believe that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and that sadam hussein was not going to trade the oil of his country via euro prices and policies. Sexy target is not the term I'll use. Kinda repulsive target imo. Why do other countries need less defence system ? Why would they generate less hate ? Please, do your homework, document yourself. I strongly encourage you to watch this movie : | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
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originalred04
United States53 Posts
I tried to watch your movie and got about 10 minutes in and just turned it off. There is just to much sensationalism, and conjecture for me to spend 2 hours of my life watching it. I am not fan of Obama, nor was I a fan of Bush. It makes some legit points that are already well known, I'm not sure what the point of the video is, other than to push some conspiracy theorist garbage around as true journalism. You make comments like "USA has always done Pre-emptive strikes," if by always you mean post WWII and even then it's a very weak argument. Our wars in the Middle East have raised our prices in oil not lowered them, so that's not really a valid argument either. I'm not debating the right or wrong of these wars just your claimed reasoning for the wars. America has it's fair share of problems but on the whole we are a pretty benevolent country. The American people do not desire Empire or conquest. We do not thirst for war, or bloodshed. Historically speaking, America is the most benevolent world super power ever. If we had desired it to be so, we could have overrun the world after Germany collapsed. We had a weapon capable of leveling ever major city on Earth that opposed us, Europe was in shambles, Japan devastated, China divided in civil war, India, Africa, The Middle East, could have offered up no semblance of defense. Instead we instituted the marshal plan and helped rebuild Europe. all of this is pretty far from the topic of this thread, not even sure how I managed up reading it, all in all America is pretty FUBARed in the near future. | ||
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mmorrow401
United States29 Posts
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mmorrow401
United States29 Posts
On July 27 2011 13:19 originalred04 wrote: If we had desired it to be so, we could have overrun the world after Germany collapsed. We had a weapon capable of leveling ever major city on Earth that opposed us, Europe was in shambles, Japan devastated, China divided in civil war, India, Africa, The Middle East, could have offered up no semblance of defense. Instead we instituted the marshal plan and helped rebuild Europe. . you forgot about the Soviet Union but you're pretty much on point. | ||
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