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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 25 2017 19:04 GMT
#12381
On May 26 2017 03:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2017 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
TM is clearly thinking of a Leviathan spaceship. And Captain does look a bit like a talking plant.

http://farscape.wikia.com/wiki/Leviathan




Was actually thinking about Saga, but Farscape is as good a sample as any--albeit giving birth to naturally growing ships is a bit less replicable.

I also was not limiting the scale. How big of an internal ecosystem within a ship is needed to grow your own parts as the ship degrades over time.


That depends a lot on the actual way of degradation. I am afraid that if you really had a wooden ship, you'd be losing parts of it for good, by evaporation and fragmentation in impacts, due to cosmic radiation etc... in such a case, you really won't gain that much by "growing" the replacements inside, due to mass conservation. However if the main issue is internal decay, when the material just looses properties, but the mass stays in place, it can be beneficial to drag it in, dismantle and rebuild. In the case of the wood, if it starts decaying in place, you can grind it into substrate and grow new wood from it - that's beneficial, because it recycles the mass. This all also works only provided that you have a seriously good source of energy, preferably one that gets replenished from the environment. Near a star it could be "solar" power, in empty space it could be harvesting interstellar gas for hydrogen at high speeds (interstellar ramjets), but it honestly also could be total matter anihilation, if that's actually possible, because that provides so much energy per gram that having to carry fuel becomes less important.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
May 25 2017 19:49 GMT
#12382
Does reverse reverse psychology work?
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"not enough rights"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
May 25 2017 20:09 GMT
#12383
On May 26 2017 04:49 fluidrone wrote:
Does reverse reverse psychology work?
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What do you think?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 25 2017 20:43 GMT
#12384
On May 26 2017 04:49 fluidrone wrote:
Does reverse reverse psychology work?
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Isn't that just normal psychology?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-25 21:43:12
May 25 2017 21:42 GMT
#12385
--- Nuked ---
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11925 Posts
May 25 2017 23:18 GMT
#12386
On May 26 2017 04:04 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2017 03:57 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On May 26 2017 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
TM is clearly thinking of a Leviathan spaceship. And Captain does look a bit like a talking plant.

http://farscape.wikia.com/wiki/Leviathan




Was actually thinking about Saga, but Farscape is as good a sample as any--albeit giving birth to naturally growing ships is a bit less replicable.

I also was not limiting the scale. How big of an internal ecosystem within a ship is needed to grow your own parts as the ship degrades over time.


That depends a lot on the actual way of degradation. I am afraid that if you really had a wooden ship, you'd be losing parts of it for good, by evaporation and fragmentation in impacts, due to cosmic radiation etc... in such a case, you really won't gain that much by "growing" the replacements inside, due to mass conservation. However if the main issue is internal decay, when the material just looses properties, but the mass stays in place, it can be beneficial to drag it in, dismantle and rebuild. In the case of the wood, if it starts decaying in place, you can grind it into substrate and grow new wood from it - that's beneficial, because it recycles the mass. This all also works only provided that you have a seriously good source of energy, preferably one that gets replenished from the environment. Near a star it could be "solar" power, in empty space it could be harvesting interstellar gas for hydrogen at high speeds (interstellar ramjets), but it honestly also could be total matter anihilation, if that's actually possible, because that provides so much energy per gram that having to carry fuel becomes less important.


Exactly, the main problem is that you can't create matter on board the ship. So whatever amount of, for example, carbon you start with is the amount of carbon that you have. You might even lose some, but you probably shouldn't if you built your ship well.

You can cycle that carbon through various things, one cycle would be something like food - human - co2 ( and excrement) - plant- food, which needs some additonal catalyzers like water, but you don't really use up anything except for the energy, which you can just take from the sun if you are not too far away from it.

So if you want to do something long-term, you have to set everything up very carefully so you recycle all of the things in some way.

In the case of your wood ship, as opisska mentioned, everything is fine as long as you don't lose anything to the outside. If you don't do that, i don't think you need a large ecosystem. Probably some bacteria to break the old wood down, and new woodplants to grow out of the broken down wood. You need to engineer your setup carefully so it reuses everything you put into it, and no dead ends. If anything ends up in a state where it can not be repurposed cyclically, it might as well be in space. Which is bad. Matter you lose into space is gone, and thus a bad thing, because you absolutely have no way to replenish it. If you lose an atom of carbon, you now have to run everything with slightly less carbon.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 25 2017 23:41 GMT
#12387
I recently saw Alien Covenant, and in the movie, very small swarms of dust/insects (people don't notice them) go into the body, and grow into miniature versions of aliens which grow really quickly. They reach what looks like adulthood in maybe a minute or two.
Given this, is this actually possible? Is there some creature in the world which can grow into adulthood incredibly quickly and not die just as quickly from going into old age?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
May 26 2017 06:47 GMT
#12388
LALALALA SPOILERS. WTF?
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-26 07:28:31
May 26 2017 06:53 GMT
#12389
On May 26 2017 15:47 Acrofales wrote:
LALALALA SPOILERS. WTF?
get reverse psyched, LALALALA

Edit: you can get carbon from cosmic dust, just saying. you can get all kinds of stuff from that dust: from carbon monoxide to aromatic hydrocarbons and ice(water) to complex amino-acids.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 26 2017 07:26 GMT
#12390
On May 26 2017 08:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
I recently saw Alien Covenant, and in the movie, very small swarms of dust/insects (people don't notice them) go into the body, and grow into miniature versions of aliens which grow really quickly. They reach what looks like adulthood in maybe a minute or two.
Given this, is this actually possible? Is there some creature in the world which can grow into adulthood incredibly quickly and not die just as quickly from going into old age?


While I can't think of an example off the top of my head I don't see why not. The process of development varies widely between species. Lobsters, some species of jellyfish, hydras all don't experience "old age" for example.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-28 18:36:42
May 28 2017 18:35 GMT
#12391
How do I play Diablo 1 again?

What I mean is, my old desktop which had Diablo 1 has long since died, and my new computers don't have disk drives for a Diablo 1 CD (and even if they did, I don't know if Windows 10 can run D1).

I can't seem to buy Diablo 1 online/ through Blizzard like I can with their other games. I've heard rumors that you can download the game through a third-party site or some other way, but I'd much rather play it the "real" way if possible. Is there a digital download anywhere? Even if it's just for single player?

Thanks!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-28 18:37:45
May 28 2017 18:37 GMT
#12392
On May 29 2017 03:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
How do I play Diablo 1 again?

What I mean is, my old desktop which had Diablo 1 has long since died, and my new computers don't have disk drives for a Diablo 1 CD (and even if they did, I don't know if Windows 10 can run D1).

I can't seem to buy Diablo 1 online/ through Blizzard like I can with their other games. I've heard rumors that you can download the game through a third-party site or some other way, but I'd much rather play it the "real" way if possible. Is there a digital download anywhere?

Thanks!


initial thought for an option is get an external cd drive their like 30 dollars. other than that not sure. also try the tech support simple questions thread also.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-28 20:14:19
May 28 2017 20:10 GMT
#12393
I have no idea how legal it is (probably grey at best, but if you own the game, I think it gets a significantly lighter shade of grey), but just google diablo abandonware.

You'll also need compatibility tools. Not sure SCUMM will work for Diablo (only games I replayed once they were abandonware were the Lucasarts point and click adventures), but there's plenty of Win95 emulators out there and something will probably allow you to run it.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 29 2017 06:42 GMT
#12394
will taxi drivers actually follow a car if you tell them too?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 29 2017 06:45 GMT
#12395
On May 29 2017 15:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
will taxi drivers actually follow a car if you tell them too?


Absolutely. But don't take my word for it--try it out!
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-29 11:12:19
May 29 2017 11:11 GMT
#12396
On May 26 2017 08:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
I recently saw Alien Covenant, and in the movie, very small swarms of dust/insects (people don't notice them) go into the body, and grow into miniature versions of aliens which grow really quickly. They reach what looks like adulthood in maybe a minute or two.
Given this, is this actually possible? Is there some creature in the world which can grow into adulthood incredibly quickly and not die just as quickly from going into old age?


Being an adult (smaller version and able to reproduce) very quickly is possible. A few species are adult at birth. In a few extreme cases, the young even mate before hatching : Adactylidium for example, although you could argue that they are young adults who just happen to live inside their mother.

Having a lifespan as a full grown adult a lot longer than the growth phase is not that rare. For example, an ant egg becomes a larva in ~1 week and the adult comes out of the cocoon after ~6 weeks. The adult ant queen can live for 20+ years.

Growing (in size) incredibly quickly is trickier and minutes won't get you very far. The fastest prokariot bacterias we know replicate in ~20min in ideal conditions. If you somehow manage a perfect food gathering/distribution within the developping organism, you could double the weight every 20min. Say you start with a dust weighting 0,1g and end with a 100kg adult, you need 20 cycles. Minimum should be ~7 hours.
I guess xenomorphs have faster generation cycles because plot
Coooot
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11925 Posts
May 29 2017 11:31 GMT
#12397
On May 29 2017 20:11 Oshuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2017 08:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
I recently saw Alien Covenant, and in the movie, very small swarms of dust/insects (people don't notice them) go into the body, and grow into miniature versions of aliens which grow really quickly. They reach what looks like adulthood in maybe a minute or two.
Given this, is this actually possible? Is there some creature in the world which can grow into adulthood incredibly quickly and not die just as quickly from going into old age?


Being an adult (smaller version and able to reproduce) very quickly is possible. A few species are adult at birth. In a few extreme cases, the young even mate before hatching : Adactylidium for example, although you could argue that they are young adults who just happen to live inside their mother.

Having a lifespan as a full grown adult a lot longer than the growth phase is not that rare. For example, an ant egg becomes a larva in ~1 week and the adult comes out of the cocoon after ~6 weeks. The adult ant queen can live for 20+ years.

Growing (in size) incredibly quickly is trickier and minutes won't get you very far. The fastest prokariot bacterias we know replicate in ~20min in ideal conditions. If you somehow manage a perfect food gathering/distribution within the developping organism, you could double the weight every 20min. Say you start with a dust weighting 0,1g and end with a 100kg adult, you need 20 cycles. Minimum should be ~7 hours.
I guess xenomorphs have faster generation cycles because plot


Now you made me look up weird creepy animal sex behaviour. Adactylidium is creepy as fuck. Also Bedbugs. The fuck. Males cut holes into the females to rape, while the female fights back. In some cases the female also develops a thingy that looks like a penis to fight back, and so the males have trouble identifying them.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
May 29 2017 11:37 GMT
#12398
bedbugs are absolutely terrible, so it makes sense that they'd reproduce in such a fucked up manner lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 30 2017 13:54 GMT
#12399
On May 29 2017 20:11 Oshuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2017 08:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
I recently saw Alien Covenant, and in the movie, very small swarms of dust/insects (people don't notice them) go into the body, and grow into miniature versions of aliens which grow really quickly. They reach what looks like adulthood in maybe a minute or two.
Given this, is this actually possible? Is there some creature in the world which can grow into adulthood incredibly quickly and not die just as quickly from going into old age?


Being an adult (smaller version and able to reproduce) very quickly is possible. A few species are adult at birth. In a few extreme cases, the young even mate before hatching : Adactylidium for example, although you could argue that they are young adults who just happen to live inside their mother.

Having a lifespan as a full grown adult a lot longer than the growth phase is not that rare. For example, an ant egg becomes a larva in ~1 week and the adult comes out of the cocoon after ~6 weeks. The adult ant queen can live for 20+ years.

Growing (in size) incredibly quickly is trickier and minutes won't get you very far. The fastest prokariot bacterias we know replicate in ~20min in ideal conditions. If you somehow manage a perfect food gathering/distribution within the developping organism, you could double the weight every 20min. Say you start with a dust weighting 0,1g and end with a 100kg adult, you need 20 cycles. Minimum should be ~7 hours.
I guess xenomorphs have faster generation cycles because plot


There goes my sweet dreams for a few lifetimes. I feel broken and mentally eaten alive.

Fantastic job mate
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 31 2017 20:04 GMT
#12400
I am about to start college and graduation gift specials are about to happen.
What's a good laptop that is good for students, but can run games like League, DotA, Counter-Strike, and can allow me to stream?
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