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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
October 10 2016 07:12 GMT
#10161
How come cascade is the only person in this thread who understands Pythagoras. Is math education really that bad?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 07:26:32
October 10 2016 07:25 GMT
#10162
On October 10 2016 16:12 Acrofales wrote:
How come cascade is the only person in this thread who understands Pythagoras. Is math education really that bad?

I think it was just magpie that accidentally missed a square somewhere or something. Doing maths is tricky written in forums like this. How come TL doesn't have latex support yet??
TL+?
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 10 2016 08:25 GMT
#10163
On October 10 2016 16:25 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 16:12 Acrofales wrote:
How come cascade is the only person in this thread who understands Pythagoras. Is math education really that bad?

I think it was just magpie that accidentally missed a square somewhere or something. Doing maths is tricky written in forums like this. How come TL doesn't have latex support yet??
TL+?

whom do we have to spam write nice messages for this implementation? i bet some donald bots could vote this to be the most important issue with TL.

is it 'whom' or 'who'?
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 12:02:45
October 10 2016 12:02 GMT
#10164
On October 10 2016 17:25 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 16:25 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2016 16:12 Acrofales wrote:
How come cascade is the only person in this thread who understands Pythagoras. Is math education really that bad?

I think it was just magpie that accidentally missed a square somewhere or something. Doing maths is tricky written in forums like this. How come TL doesn't have latex support yet??
TL+?

whom do we have to spam write nice messages for this implementation? i bet some donald bots could vote this to be the most important issue with TL.

is it 'whom' or 'who'?

In this case 'to whom,' as it is the object of the sentence, and I say ask R1CH
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 10 2016 13:47 GMT
#10165
Wrong because the lower line (=2) is not mathematically equal to the upper line (=sqrt(2)), you just drew it that way.
maru lover forever
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12078 Posts
October 10 2016 14:33 GMT
#10166
On October 10 2016 22:47 Incognoto wrote:
Wrong because the lower line (=2) is not mathematically equal to the upper line (=sqrt(2)), you just drew it that way.


I gotta say, i am amazed at how many people not only fail to notice the actual point when stuff goes wrong in the fake proof, but are also very convinced that they totally know what the problem is, despite being completely wrong.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 15:41:46
October 10 2016 15:38 GMT
#10167
If you zoom in enough on the segment which is supposed to be equal to 2, what you have is not a line, but a staircase. The sum of all the segments of that staircase is equal to 2. The line next to it is equal to sqrt(2).

Disclosed is a shitty paint pic alluding to what I'm talking about. http://imgur.com/hpjLU1B

Totally stealing this
maru lover forever
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
October 10 2016 16:16 GMT
#10168
On October 11 2016 00:38 Incognoto wrote:
If you zoom in enough on the segment which is supposed to be equal to 2, what you have is not a line, but a staircase. The sum of all the segments of that staircase is equal to 2. The line next to it is equal to sqrt(2).

Disclosed is a shitty paint pic alluding to what I'm talking about. http://imgur.com/hpjLU1B

Totally stealing this

You'd have to zoom in infinitely far, though so good luck with that. It's better to say what Cascade said: that while the number of stairs goes to infinity, the length of each stair goes to 0, resulting in fact in lim (stairs -> infinity) length_of_staircase = sqrt(2). And not, as the original" proof" implies, 2.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
October 10 2016 16:39 GMT
#10169
I can't believe I missed an entire discussion on math
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 18:09:36
October 10 2016 16:51 GMT
#10170
On October 11 2016 01:16 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 00:38 Incognoto wrote:
If you zoom in enough on the segment which is supposed to be equal to 2, what you have is not a line, but a staircase. The sum of all the segments of that staircase is equal to 2. The line next to it is equal to sqrt(2).

Disclosed is a shitty paint pic alluding to what I'm talking about. http://imgur.com/hpjLU1B

Totally stealing this

You'd have to zoom in infinitely far, though so good luck with that. It's better to say what Cascade said: that while the number of stairs goes to infinity, the length of each stair goes to 0, resulting in fact in lim (stairs -> infinity) length_of_staircase = sqrt(2). And not, as the original" proof" implies, 2.


yes
maru lover forever
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 11 2016 13:39 GMT
#10171
On October 10 2016 07:26 Cascade wrote:
I think the moral of the story is that:

length(limit(paths))

Is not always equal to

limit(length(paths)),

even if both converge nicely.

So yes, be careful around infinities.


For those still not convinced, this is the most accurate explanation.

An infinite sum of something decreasing to 0 can give anything.
eg :
1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + ... = +inf
but
1/1² + 1/2² + 1/3² + 1/4² + 1/5² + ... = pi²/6
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 12 2016 01:07 GMT
#10172
--- Nuked ---
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9336 Posts
October 12 2016 01:14 GMT
#10173
On October 12 2016 10:07 JimmiC wrote:
Why is saying #all lives matter offensive to people? Is it not taking the black lives matter movement serious enough? Or mocking it in some way? Seams like a ok statement.


More or less because
http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2016/07/07/all-houses-matter-the-extended-cut/
You're now breathing manually
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 12 2016 01:16 GMT
#10174
On October 12 2016 10:07 JimmiC wrote:
Why is saying #all lives matter offensive to people? Is it not taking the black lives matter movement serious enough? Or mocking it in some way? Seams like a ok statement.

People use it as a counter-point to #BLM for whatever reason. It's more that it's a stupid and unnecessary thing to say, as no one was saying no lives matter, nor does saying blm mean other lives don't matter.
Imagine if someone was having a conversation about food and said "I think Italian food is really good". Then another person said "all food is good".
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 12 2016 03:17 GMT
#10175
On October 10 2016 16:12 Acrofales wrote:
How come cascade is the only person in this thread who understands Pythagoras. Is math education really that bad?

what was wrong with my math
There is no one like you in the universe.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 12 2016 03:27 GMT
#10176
On October 12 2016 10:07 JimmiC wrote:
Why is saying #all lives matter offensive to people? Is it not taking the black lives matter movement serious enough? Or mocking it in some way? Seams like a ok statement.

In isolation it is of course a fine statement. But in the context of black lives matter movement, yes, the two things you said.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 12 2016 04:01 GMT
#10177
On October 12 2016 10:07 JimmiC wrote:
Why is saying #all lives matter offensive to people? Is it not taking the black lives matter movement serious enough? Or mocking it in some way? Seams like a ok statement.


Falls equivalence.

Black Lives Matter spawned from the high amount of police killing of Blacks. It is the specific statement that Blacks are being killed, seemingly en mass.

When you say "All Lives Matter" you are creating a false equivalence wherein you are suggesting that the plights of blacks are equal to the plights of non-blacks, essentially pretending that racism and discrimination does not exist. Its a direct stance that you believe that black people being shot by police is okay and normal and is simply part of life that has to be accepted.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 12 2016 04:42 GMT
#10178
On October 12 2016 13:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 10:07 JimmiC wrote:
Why is saying #all lives matter offensive to people? Is it not taking the black lives matter movement serious enough? Or mocking it in some way? Seams like a ok statement.


Falls equivalence.

Black Lives Matter spawned from the high amount of police killing of Blacks. It is the specific statement that Blacks are being killed, seemingly en mass.

When you say "All Lives Matter" you are creating a false equivalence wherein you are suggesting that the plights of blacks are equal to the plights of non-blacks, essentially pretending that racism and discrimination does not exist. Its a direct stance that you believe that black people being shot by police is okay and normal and is simply part of life that has to be accepted.

I'll add to that very good explanation that false equivalence is sadly a much used tool of conservative/reactionary movements to fight against their opponents, thus it's hardly surprising to see them use All Lives Matter.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 12 2016 04:56 GMT
#10179
How do you get people to stop using logical fallacies (like false equivalence)?
There is no one like you in the universe.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9336 Posts
October 12 2016 04:58 GMT
#10180
Murder them
You're now breathing manually
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