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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 31 2013 04:41 GMT
#2421
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I need someone out there to reassure me. My now old friend lead a co-dependent life with her latest girlfriend. He is in serious debt, has no food, and spends most of his time vaporizing hash oil, playing Skyrim, Monday Night Combat, Magic the Gathering, or League of Legends, when he's not working full-time at only $9 an hour.

He supports both himself and her and she smokes cigarettes. He has diabetes, and major debt to the hospitals because of his overall respiratory health dealing with his old smoking habits and floaters in his eyes from being a diabetic. I went to see him tonight and recently his co-dependent lifestyle hadn't changed, and had gotten worse.

He asked me to leave early when he said he had a co-worker come over, whom I know, to do "business" with. Basically what is happening is she is a prostitute and he is pimping her out for more drugs.

Now I'm going to go see him later this weekend and tell him I appreciated our time together, I thought of him as a friend, and that I am not going to spend any more time with him if he is going to continue to live his co-dependent drug-saturated lifestyle. I'm going to give him all my MTG cards and then tell him I think we need to stop being friends.

Mainly I feel I'm being arrogant and jealous, that I am not allowed to have sex with his girlfriend when the rest of my/his other friends/co-workers/swingers/addicts have. But I know this is a waste of time, I need my own girlfriend and mind my own business. Plus thank you society for educating me about addiction, co-dependence, and STD/STIs.

I need someone to reassure me that I should stand up for my dissociation with him because he used to be one of my several old-drug-dealers.
Support your esport!
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
July 31 2013 06:00 GMT
#2422
On July 31 2013 13:41 Alabasern wrote:
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I need someone out there to reassure me. My now old friend lead a co-dependent life with her latest girlfriend. He is in serious debt, has no food, and spends most of his time vaporizing hash oil, playing Skyrim, Monday Night Combat, Magic the Gathering, or League of Legends, when he's not working full-time at only $9 an hour.

He supports both himself and her and she smokes cigarettes. He has diabetes, and major debt to the hospitals because of his overall respiratory health dealing with his old smoking habits and floaters in his eyes from being a diabetic. I went to see him tonight and recently his co-dependent lifestyle hadn't changed, and had gotten worse.

He asked me to leave early when he said he had a co-worker come over, whom I know, to do "business" with. Basically what is happening is she is a prostitute and he is pimping her out for more drugs.

Now I'm going to go see him later this weekend and tell him I appreciated our time together, I thought of him as a friend, and that I am not going to spend any more time with him if he is going to continue to live his co-dependent drug-saturated lifestyle. I'm going to give him all my MTG cards and then tell him I think we need to stop being friends.

Mainly I feel I'm being arrogant and jealous, that I am not allowed to have sex with his girlfriend when the rest of my/his other friends/co-workers/swingers/addicts have. But I know this is a waste of time, I need my own girlfriend and mind my own business. Plus thank you society for educating me about addiction, co-dependence, and STD/STIs.

I need someone to reassure me that I should stand up for my dissociation with him because he used to be one of my several old-drug-dealers.

Be at peace. Considering just what you wrote, you did good enough.
And you're not being jealous at all, any man would fantasize about having sex with that slutty+hot girl even if she is your friend gf. And you're not being arrogant, for the simple facat that you are wasting your own time just trying to get him in better shape. Being friends do not mean that you have to sacrifice until the last consequences for him. You did enough. And I'm even not considering the "he used to be one of my several old-drug-dealers" line, I'm pretty sure a real good friend would never take you to their vices.
And btw, he may sell those MTG cards for some more shit u.u (drugs, cigs, etc).
Chicken gank op
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 31 2013 06:28 GMT
#2423
On July 31 2013 15:00 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 13:41 Alabasern wrote:
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I need someone out there to reassure me. My now old friend lead a co-dependent life with her latest girlfriend. He is in serious debt, has no food, and spends most of his time vaporizing hash oil, playing Skyrim, Monday Night Combat, Magic the Gathering, or League of Legends, when he's not working full-time at only $9 an hour.

He supports both himself and her and she smokes cigarettes. He has diabetes, and major debt to the hospitals because of his overall respiratory health dealing with his old smoking habits and floaters in his eyes from being a diabetic. I went to see him tonight and recently his co-dependent lifestyle hadn't changed, and had gotten worse.

He asked me to leave early when he said he had a co-worker come over, whom I know, to do "business" with. Basically what is happening is she is a prostitute and he is pimping her out for more drugs.

Now I'm going to go see him later this weekend and tell him I appreciated our time together, I thought of him as a friend, and that I am not going to spend any more time with him if he is going to continue to live his co-dependent drug-saturated lifestyle. I'm going to give him all my MTG cards and then tell him I think we need to stop being friends.

Mainly I feel I'm being arrogant and jealous, that I am not allowed to have sex with his girlfriend when the rest of my/his other friends/co-workers/swingers/addicts have. But I know this is a waste of time, I need my own girlfriend and mind my own business. Plus thank you society for educating me about addiction, co-dependence, and STD/STIs.

I need someone to reassure me that I should stand up for my dissociation with him because he used to be one of my several old-drug-dealers.

Be at peace. Considering just what you wrote, you did good enough.
And you're not being jealous at all, any man would fantasize about having sex with that slutty+hot girl even if she is your friend gf. And you're not being arrogant, for the simple facat that you are wasting your own time just trying to get him in better shape. Being friends do not mean that you have to sacrifice until the last consequences for him. You did enough. And I'm even not considering the "he used to be one of my several old-drug-dealers" line, I'm pretty sure a real good friend would never take you to their vices.
And btw, he may sell those MTG cards for some more shit u.u (drugs, cigs, etc).


I am very grateful you responded. Thank you. And I think I'm going to sell the cards now (my old friend has $3,000 debt to his landlord, and 1000's of debt to the hospital too) and he won't use the money properly because of his condition. Thank you Belha!
Support your esport!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 03:27:48
August 01 2013 03:22 GMT
#2424
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Damn, YMCA is filled with jackasses...
I just dont want to go there anymore.. gotta raise my rows to 135 and im quitting. So many boneheads who contradict whatever I learn on my own on the web and they prove the very notion that a lot of people are just yoloing how they work out. It boggles my mind how the "experienced" trainer is just a complete asshat who won't help me with anything when I ask him politely. Instead of fixing my form or giving me tip he tells me to do something completely different (I'm trying to do Pendlay rows and he tells me I have an attitude for not doing the normal bent over rows. Real fucking piece of shit. Mighty rude of him to just imply I'd switch over to something I don't want to do. And on top of that he doesn't even help me when he says my form is off. What the fuck? What kind of service is that.. assholes. I don't care if you showed up on TV and have the experience. Do your goddamn job and stop saying I have an attitude for being skeptical of such a shoddy practiced gym. Nobody seems to be helping out the poor fellows who are doing half reps on bench press and squats. None of the YMCA employees who are suppose to know what they're doing. What is up with that? I remember being at another YMCA and they told me circular weights are dangerous. I'm tired of their shit..

also what is up with my particular YMCA having a curfew for 17 year olds at 6:30 in such a metropolitan area in the city??? is there so much danger here? no fuck no. Stupid as hell.
Also nobody here has hair like i do.. or well did. I cut my hair and i dont like it either.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 22:38:42
August 06 2013 07:43 GMT
#2425
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
August 06 2013 07:49 GMT
#2426
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I hate Oracle :/
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 06 2013 18:57 GMT
#2427
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Make your work history matter. Don't forgot to do paperwork arithmetic. I just applied for an unemployment workforce center and couldn't do basic multiplication and division arithmetic or imperial tape measuring calculation. Seriously make your work history important, and stay employed. I don't know how I'm going to survive if I lose my allowance/room at my parents. I can't afford my gas/car insurance @ $2400 a year/food/prepaid Tracfone minutes $30-40/per 1-3 months. I am losing hope because all I can do is general labor. I'm too far behind to make anything in fiction to publish, and most likely I would get declined 99.8% of the time.
Support your esport!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:30:05
August 07 2013 07:55 GMT
#2428
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
August 07 2013 11:30 GMT
#2429
On August 07 2013 03:57 Alabasern wrote:
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Make your work history matter. Don't forgot to do paperwork arithmetic. I just applied for an unemployment workforce center and couldn't do basic multiplication and division arithmetic or imperial tape measuring calculation. Seriously make your work history important, and stay employed. I don't know how I'm going to survive if I lose my allowance/room at my parents. I can't afford my gas/car insurance @ $2400 a year/food/prepaid Tracfone minutes $30-40/per 1-3 months. I am losing hope because all I can do is general labor. I'm too far behind to make anything in fiction to publish, and most likely I would get declined 99.8% of the time.


Save or borrow money and take a manual labor course. Most employment centers will pay for these courses to get you back to work. Welders for example make an excellent salary and the variety of projects you can work on is good. Specialized manual labor is always in demand, sometimes you have to relocate, sometimes you work with a fly-in/fly-out plan.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 00:54:26
August 12 2013 00:54 GMT
#2430
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One of my really close friends just died in a motor cycle accident. I don't even know what to think but im so fucking pissed off and sad right now.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
August 12 2013 10:50 GMT
#2431
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I don't like who I have become. I seem to care so little at the moment. I have become so desensitized. Why do I just not care about anything? How can I change this? I am so angry at myself for not having a shard of emotion. My dog died and I didn't shed a tear or feel sad for more than a few seconds.
What has happened to me? Why am I so selfish and arrogant? Why am I even posting here... I am deluded I think.
<3
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 12 2013 11:38 GMT
#2432
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GOT FUCKING SCAMMED OFF 300 DOLLARS FUCKING DOTA2 ITEM SCAMMERS FUCK ALL YOU SCAMMERS. NO SERIOUSLY. FUCK. YOU HEARD ME. F U C K FUCK FUCKING FUCK ALL Y'ALL MOTHERFUCKING SCAMMERS. -peace.
Dear Sixsmith...
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#2433
On August 12 2013 09:54 kmillz wrote:
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One of my really close friends just died in a motor cycle accident. I don't even know what to think but im so fucking pissed off and sad right now.


I hope you and his family recover from the loss. Keep something to remember him.
Support your esport!
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
August 12 2013 18:28 GMT
#2434
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My life is complete. I hate my job, can't do my hobbies, and have enough fear in me to not wish to change my situation. It's like I'm a true fucking american yay?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
August 12 2013 18:52 GMT
#2435
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My life sucks and soon it will get worse
Freelancer veteran
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 12 2013 22:44 GMT
#2436
On August 13 2013 03:28 Thieving Magpie wrote:
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My life is complete. I hate my job, can't do my hobbies, and have enough fear in me to not wish to change my situation. It's like I'm a true fucking american yay?

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I hear you! But at least my boss/coworkers are awesome and therefore don't hate my job unless I must work 100% alone on something mundane (20% of time...)

However my /dreams crushed/ moment (you will never fly as your career- reflexes insufficient for emergency protocol) came like 5 years ago.

Kenpachi holy... Are you younger than 17!?!? If not why the hell does that curfew matter? I understand your post like people usually understand mine!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#2437
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My early college friends were smoking bud last night around me and I have a drug test tomorrow for a full-time Wal-Mart stocking job. God I hope my body isn't still sensitive to this bullshit and I can get along without a hitch. If I fail, I'm back to being fucked...
Support your esport!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 20:03:04
August 21 2013 08:27 GMT
#2438
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 21 2013 08:48 GMT
#2439
On August 21 2013 06:17 Alabasern wrote:
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My early college friends were smoking bud last night around me and I have a drug test tomorrow for a full-time Wal-Mart stocking job. God I hope my body isn't still sensitive to this bullshit and I can get along without a hitch. If I fail, I'm back to being fucked...

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Hi. Drink water so you piss clear. If your parts per million is high, make your urine so diluted with water that the actual urine part is about 10 parts per million, and then you'll be below the threshold. Capice?


On August 21 2013 17:27 Aerisky wrote:
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sometimes I feel like my life is in a downward spiral and I get more and more useless

Right now is one of those times

Probably more moments of clarity than anything else

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Hi. If you're fucking up like I was, let me give you some advice. It's not going to get easier. You'll just be older when you DO. Yeah? Just keep things in reality. By that I mean, don't chalk yourself up to something higher than you actually are and then compare. If you do that you might really feel some bad stuff. Better to say fuck the "ideal me" and just start living where you are.


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As for me, I'm a real fuckup. Sometimes I wake up and ask myself how old I am, and I literally answer 2 years younger than I actually am, because that's how much time I've wasted doing absolutely nothing. I'm a piece of shit and I've had it with being a loser. I'm not going to get much sleep tonight but tomorrow is the day, gentlemen.

Also fuck team games. Most of them are full of kids who haven't learned how to tie their shoelaces yet. And that's the real truth.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
Kurbz
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:04:25
August 21 2013 09:04 GMT
#2440
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I'm 27 years old in october and feel like I have achieved nothing in my life. I got sick last year and couldn't work, I lost my home, car and all my possessions excluding my computer (I told them over my dead body they were taking that). I am still sick and it doesn't look like it's going to get better any time soon. The training I had is next to useless now and if I could reenter the work force anytime soon I have fuck all knowledge above general laborer. Yeah I know there is people in worse situations then me out there but I want to say a sincere fuck you life.

Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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