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On June 05 2011 14:38 Phyre wrote: I find it pretty ridiculous that the mother of the boy isn't pressing charges and seems to be disregarding this simply as a prank that went a bit too far. Pressing charges could really hurt the girls' lives.
Society at large is fine with boys being beat up and shit on because we're supposed to lose our sensitivity anyways. If the genders were reversed, the boys doing it would probably get rape charges.
Some of the people in this thread sicken me even more than the girls in the video. Custody for the child should be removed from the boys mother, i cant believe she just says "i want these girls parents to do something about it What!? You sicken me! You think the boys mother is bad because she's not exacting enough revenge?!
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On June 06 2011 02:41 esperanto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:16 Blardy wrote:On June 06 2011 02:10 esperanto wrote: This is a cruel story but you absolutly cant compare that to if the gender were opposite. With males doing this there would be a sexual intention behind it, that gives the thing another dimension. Besides the feelings and the possible trauma is completely diffrent. A girl in that case is would be defenseless in case the boys would force sex. A total violation of body and soul. 14 year old girls doing this not even wont (in most cases) have the intention to do this, they actually wont physically not be able to force sex of this boy.
Beeing in the situation where someone else with a sexual intention can force sex with you is completely diffrent than a cruel emberrasing prank. Please dont compare that.
I remember when i was younger at one of my first partys (about 13 years old) some girls pulled down the pants of a boy while he was dancing, he was so embarrassed he started crying and went home. Sure what the girls did here is more cruel but still closer to a prank than to a major sex-crime. So what you're saying is that whatever a male does, its for sex. If I depants a girl, its because I want to have sex with her right there on the spot? The reason sex-crimes even on a "low" level are punished hard is the the psychological trauma on the victims side for even beeing in this situation where forced sex is possible. Its about the victims side. In this case a sexual intention is unlikely even from the boys point of view. (Jinro I dont think the boy thought of strap-ons in this situations ^^ ) In german law terms what the girls did (if I was the judge and had to go after this case) could be charged with "Nötigung" (to force something of someone) but not "Sexuelle Nötigung" (a complete new level). I am not saying that it wasnt bad what the girls did there and they actually could be charged by law. I am just saying that this specific situation cant be compared to a rape situation a 11 year old girl could be in or could feel to be in when hold down and undressed by 2 14 year old boys.
There is a huge difference between rape and sexual herrasment. Clearly completely undressing someone against their will is considered a sexual crime.
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On June 06 2011 02:54 dreamsmasher wrote: i find it highly disturbing people think that the legal system should have been involved.
I find it disturbing that you're out there reproducing.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 05 2011 14:51 haduken wrote: The mother did the right thing. If she went ahead and press charges then her son would be the laughing stock of the school.
Sad but true. Yeah, people are like, "I'd get so mad at my mom if she refused to press charges!" and that's a joke. In any town across all of America, if you were known as the kid who got his clothes taken off by upperclassmen and his mom sued the kids and possibly single handedly ruined their future, you'd become the largest social outcast imaginable. The mom's decision seems smarter than anything my parents would do.
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On June 06 2011 02:58 Vegasminion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 02:54 dreamsmasher wrote: i find it highly disturbing people think that the legal system should have been involved. I find it disturbing that you're out there reproducing.
ya i wouldn't expect someone with a sig like yours to get it.
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gj girls, thats how to create persons running amok.
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That kid will remember this 20years from now on. And could take severely psychological damage from this. But yea in the end its the mothers fault obviously. She doesn't want to press charges and probably wont help her kid out much with psychologically either. Its pretty sad. But there is happening worse stuff in the states every day so its not surprising me much.
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On June 06 2011 02:56 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:38 Phyre wrote: I find it pretty ridiculous that the mother of the boy isn't pressing charges and seems to be disregarding this simply as a prank that went a bit too far. Pressing charges could really hurt the girls' lives. Society at large is fine with boys being beat up and shit on because we're supposed to lose our sensitivity anyways. If the genders were reversed, the boys doing it would probably get rape charges. Show nested quote +Some of the people in this thread sicken me even more than the girls in the video. Custody for the child should be removed from the boys mother, i cant believe she just says "i want these girls parents to do something about it What!? You sicken me! You think the boys mother is bad because she's not exacting enough revenge?!
So... why do people always read what they want to read and never read what is written?
Were in my post do i mention revenge?, i say the boys mother is bad because she wants the girls parents to do something about a situation that she is doing NOTHING about.
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I'm glad most of the TL community is just as disturbed and sickened by this as I am, aside from the few people commenting who think this is even remotely funny at all. I applaud the mother for her decision. I have to say, if I was his parent, they would not have gotten off so easily.
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On June 06 2011 02:46 puttputt wrote: Axe body spray is going to get SUED!
bahahahahhahaha, it pretty much is an axe body spray commercial played out in real life. lol
Another lesson in why you shouldn't wear axe
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Ya wtf this is so dumb, I'm sorry but those girls should go to jail or some shit. If the situation was reversed and 3 guys ripped the clothes off a girl in the middle of a street, its a serious fucking crime but girls do it to a guy and their mothers slap them on the wrist?
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On June 06 2011 02:10 esperanto wrote: This is a cruel story but you absolutly cant compare that to if the gender were opposite. With males doing this there would be a sexual intention behind it, that gives the thing another dimension. Besides the feelings and the possible trauma is completely diffrent. A girl in that case is would be defenseless in case the boys would force sex. A total violation of body and soul. 14 year old girls doing this not even wont (in most cases) have the intention to do this, they actually wont physically not be able to force sex of this boy.
Beeing in the situation where someone else with a sexual intention can force sex with you is completely diffrent than a cruel emberrasing prank. Please dont compare that.
I remember when i was younger at one of my first partys (about 13 years old) some girls pulled down the pants of a boy while he was dancing, he was so embarrassed he started crying and went home. Sure what the girls did here is more cruel but still closer to a prank than to a major sex-crime. you're clearly an idiot, Women can FORCE men to have sex with them even if the guy doesn't "Get hard" Don't say something is fucking impossible when it's not. In this particular case could they rape him? yes very likely, "any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person." That is the definition of Rape, because you clearly didn't know, they could've sat on his face and forced him basically to "go down" on them, I'll use slang so your moronic brain can comprehend what I'm saying. They're school kids right? they have writing utensils? pencils, pens?, markers? highlighters? Anal rape with one of those, rubber bands? can restrict blood flow to the penis and FORCE it to become hard..Don't be a fucking idiot please.
Also So it's more likely that if a guy at 14 does this to a girl he wants to rape her? What the fuck. Are you under the impression that girls can't get just as horny as guys? what girls won't commit a gang rape like this because why? "it's a prank" it's not a fucking prank, it's a fucking malicious assault committed by a bunch of girls. They COULD ave raped him just like three 14 year old boys COULD have raped an 11 year old girl, are we to believe that 14 year old boys are just fucking RAPISTS waiting for a place to strike? honestly, going by a mix of logic here we can just say "No they just wanted to humiliate and embarrass her" it was "Just a prank". It was not a prank, if the roles were reversed boys would be punished more harshly and unfairly, just because that's true doesn't mean it's ok to say that if it WERE 14 year old boys they're more likely to fucking rape the girl in that case.
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On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
can we ban this idiot please?
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Its a "rape" by law standards, so the girls should be punished in consequence. I am however surprised by the fact that the Sociological change is felt so hard. This is normally something "boys" would do, and if they did, even hell wouldent be safe for them.
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On June 06 2011 03:07 King[Neikos] wrote: [ So... why do people always read what they want to read and never read what is written?
Were in my post do i mention revenge?, i say the boys mother is bad because she wants the girls parents to do something about a situation that she is doing NOTHING about.
Well, to be frank, I don't think we can say that the mother is doing NOTHING. We don't know that. What we do know is that she's not pressing charges, which is only one of the multitudes of things she could do. Your post never uses the word revenge, but that's the only reason why you, as the mother, would want to press charges. You're not doing this for prevention purposes, the harm has already been done. Maybe she feels that pressing charges would distract her for caring for her son in a time of psychological distress.
Now I would have pressed charges, no question about it. But I don't think it's fair to judge the woman because she didn't. She has a much better understanding of the circumstances than we do and she knows her son far better than we do.
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On June 06 2011 02:56 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:38 Phyre wrote: I find it pretty ridiculous that the mother of the boy isn't pressing charges and seems to be disregarding this simply as a prank that went a bit too far. Pressing charges could really hurt the girls' lives.
And you don't think that 11 year-old got traumatized by being held to the ground and stripped naked? Instead you're worried about that three bullies may have to take responsibility for what they did. The girls's parent's aren't going to do shit, because if they had decent parents they wouldn't be doing that kind of stuff in the first place.
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It seems like the girls aren't getting a severe enough punishment IMO.
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On June 05 2011 14:46 Sephy69 wrote: Don't know what's wrong with the mother, but people these days are just too nice. I would have hated my mother and given her shit for a long time if she didn't press charges.
You would've hated your mother for that? Wow.. Thank god I'm not in your family, lmao.
Personally I wouldn't wanna go to court. I don't understand the vengeance so many seem to feel necessary. I don't think it'll help the boy to sit in court accusing a couple of crying girls for assault. The mother seems pretty sensible though.
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On June 06 2011 03:13 AraMoOse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 03:07 King[Neikos] wrote: [ So... why do people always read what they want to read and never read what is written?
Were in my post do i mention revenge?, i say the boys mother is bad because she wants the girls parents to do something about a situation that she is doing NOTHING about. Well, to be frank, I don't think we can say that the mother is doing NOTHING. We don't know that. What we do know is that she's not pressing charges, which is only one of the multitudes of things she could do. Your post never uses the word revenge, but that's the only reason why you, as the mother, would want to press charges. You're not doing this for prevention purposes, the harm has already been done. Maybe she feels that pressing charges would distract her for caring for her son in a time of psychological distress. Now I would have pressed charges, no question about it. But I don't think it's fair to judge the woman because she didn't. She has a much better understanding of the circumstances than we do and she knows her son far better than we do.
So, the girls are committing a crime against your son, and the only reason to present charges against the perpetrators is for revenge? You have a pretty twisted sense of justice right there.
And i beg to differ about her knowing her son so much better than us, remember she only realized about the whole stuff AFTER her other son told her, and the sibling only came to know about it after a friend of his told him, a lot of union in the family.
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