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EZmark
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada31 Posts
June 02 2011 15:52 GMT
#121
6'3 175 lbs is so skinny dude... you must have no muscle mass @ all
What if you tried your best and DIDN'T succeed.
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:03:49
June 02 2011 16:00 GMT
#122
What you eat isn't that important, unless you're really obese.

The key to lose weight is to do looooong and extended cardio training.

By long, I don't mean 45 mins of running, more like 20-25 mins of running, immediately fallowed by 1h-1h30 of a random physical activity (any sport is ok, including musculation), and if you can, use a bike to come back to your house.
Twice or once a week depending on your physical condition.

The reasonning behind this is that the longer a physical activity goes on, the more your body will use your natural reserves to find the energy required.
Passed 30 mins, your body will start to burn fat at a really good rate.
The difficulty in this program is that if you don't have a decent heart, you wouldn't be able to execute it properly (ie women, really obese/unsportive man). Any repeated or extended pause in this program will ruin it.

The program in this thread is about privation and short-term lose.
Definitely not a healthy way of losing weight.
Besides, thinking about gaining muscle ie weight when you're already obese is madness.
Or else you might look like Incontrol, ie a lot of muscule and fat at the same time : a kind of gorilla.




shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:12:27
June 02 2011 16:04 GMT
#123
i agree that people should try to be more healthy, but if they're happy with themselves then who are you to stick your nose in?


personally i have never dieted in my life, but i motivated myself to squeeze at least 1 hour of exercise into every day, in addition to normal participation of activities/sports. i feel a lot more confident and healthy, but i wouldn't say that i was unhappy before...

i didn't take advice off anyone or follow a guide - it's basic scientific fact that exercise burns energy in the simple form of food or body fat. i find the diet/exercise regime subject quite amusing, as their are countless shortcuts, cheats, complex tips etc.. but at the end of the day it's about moving your body to burn energy and if you want to lose weight just stop putting excess energy into your body!

once you get into the routine it becomes part of daily life and it's easy. that's the most important thing. make it a routine, make it so that your day is not 'complete' without exercise and you'll feel guilty for slacking and motivate yourself to catch up.

the second most important thing is to not let it go too far. if fitness becomes your entire life then you sacrifice part of your personality and risk becoming shallow and vain.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:11:09
June 02 2011 16:08 GMT
#124
On June 03 2011 01:00 TeWy wrote:
What you eat isn't that important, unless you're really obese.

The key to lose weight is to do looooong and extended cardio training.

By long, I don't mean 45 mins of running, more like 20-25 mins of running, immediately fallowed by 1h-1h30 of a random physical activity (any sport is ok, including musculation), and if you can, use a bike to come back to your house.
Twice or once a week depending on your physical condition.

The reasonning behind this is that the longer a physical activity goes on, the more your body will use your natural reserves to find the energy required.
Passed 30 mins, your body will start to burn fat at a really good rate.
The difficulty in this program is that if you don't have a decent heart, you wouldn't be able to execute it properly (ie women, really obese/unsportive man). Any repeated or extended pause in this program will ruin it.

The program in this thread is about privation and short-term lose.
Definitely not a healthy way of losing weight.
Besides, thinking about gaining muscle ie weight when you're already obese is madness.
Or else you might look like Incontrol, ie a lot of muscule and fat at the same time : a kind of gorilla.




Thats semi-right. Your body will use sugar and carbonhydrate supply for intense strength exercise (aka pumping iron, weightlifting etc) and will burn fat for long-term activity. Obviously its not exactly splitted in those two parts completely. Even if you go running you will burn some carbonhydrate and sugar supply.

The thing is, most beginners can't run for 30 minutes to 1 hour. What you want to do is, as I stated burn your sugar and carbonhydrate supply before you do cardio. This way you make sure the body will burn fat, since it has no supplies it can use. Also most beginners overdo it. Doing sports is fine, but if you start and you want to do 4-6 times sport a week - you will lose motivation.

If you do a good 3 split (chest/triceps, back/biceps, legs+shoulders) with cardio after each set, you will be good to go and will lose weight. Its 3 times sport a week with enough time for your body to regenerate.


On June 03 2011 01:04 shizna wrote:
i agree that people should try to be more healthy, but if they're happy with themselves then who are you to stick your nose in?


Did you miss sex before you had it? Every fat or overweight person that states "I'm happy as I am" or satisfied with what I got does say that, because they don't know better. I had 30-40lbs more than I have now. (I'm 176, 76KG and still want to lose 4KG to push body fat down a bit). You feel so much better, more active... more fit, everything.

A fat person can say whatever he/she wants - being healthy is better and feels better.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
June 02 2011 16:10 GMT
#125
Maybe I just have incredible amounts of willpower, but I go on a 3 apple+3 bowls of cereal / day diet after a few weeks of binge drinking and the stomach fat just vaporise with a week.

Yah, I'm all ready for the beaches with my secksy secksy 6 pack ^_^
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:18:08
June 02 2011 16:17 GMT
#126
On June 03 2011 01:10 Ravencruiser wrote:
Maybe I just have incredible amounts of willpower, but I go on a 3 apple+3 bowls of cereal / day diet after a few weeks of binge drinking and the stomach fat just vaporise with a week.

Yah, I'm all ready for the beaches with my secksy secksy 6 pack ^_^


Undereating will make you lose fat AND muscle.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fag Pack
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
June 02 2011 16:18 GMT
#127
Although this may be slightly off topic, you do mention that,

On June 02 2011 06:59 forgotten0ne wrote:
I actually did use one with creatine for a while, but that can be quite dangerous (although effective for weight loss).


creatine is not used for, nor has any impact on fat loss. It is also not dangerous.
OGS:levelchange
Lafonzo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada26 Posts
June 02 2011 16:21 GMT
#128
Maybe I just have incredible amounts of willpower, but I go on a 3 apple+3 bowls of cereal / day diet after a few weeks of binge drinking and the stomach fat just vaporise with a week.

Yah, I'm all ready for the beaches with my secksy secksy 6 pack ^_^

Yeah and you have a Ty-Rap frame with it ...
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 02 2011 16:21 GMT
#129
On June 03 2011 00:52 EZmark wrote:
6'3 175 lbs is so skinny dude... you must have no muscle mass @ all


6'3 175 isn't particularly skinny. Not that BMI is anything great but that weight and height puts one smack dab in the middle of the normal BMI range. If you look at the people that are truly lean (but still very healthy) such as elite runners most of them are right around or just under the 20 BMI range. Obviously 6'3" 175 isn't ripped, but most guys at that aren't going to be sticks either.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 02 2011 16:21 GMT
#130
On June 03 2011 01:18 thesideshow wrote:
Although this may be slightly off topic, you do mention that,

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 06:59 forgotten0ne wrote:
I actually did use one with creatine for a while, but that can be quite dangerous (although effective for weight loss).


creatine is not used for, nor has any impact on fat loss. It is also not dangerous.


Hahaha, I completely overlooked that line. How does creatine help you with losing weight? Creatine is used to save water supply in your muscle to "pump them" and also increased strength (at least it has that affect for lots of people). So it won't make you lose fat, but make you look more bufffed.

Its not dangerous if used correctly. You need to drink a lot, if not, it can damage your body but only if you overdo it. For a skinny person - non bodybuilder - creatine is absolutely not needed.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Lafonzo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada26 Posts
June 02 2011 16:25 GMT
#131
We read funny stuff overhere...
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:38:17
June 02 2011 16:34 GMT
#132
On June 03 2011 01:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Did you miss sex before you had it? Every fat or overweight person that states "I'm happy as I am" or satisfied with what I got does say that, because they don't know better. I had 30-40lbs more than I have now. (I'm 176, 76KG and still want to lose 4KG to push body fat down a bit). You feel so much better, more active... more fit, everything.

A fat person can say whatever he/she wants - being healthy is better and feels better.



congratulations, but it's totally arrogant and ignorant to suggest that all overweight people will feel better if they lose 30-40lbs. i know plenty of overweight people who would disagree with you, they are comfortable and show more confidence than most people of average weight (who are instead self-conscious about other stuff like hair, mole, lack of muscle, height, hygeine, occupation etc).


for the record i lost about 50lbs during the same time i had my growth spurt to 6' 4". but i feel better about myself because i figured out that being self-conscious and worrying about stupid stuff is pointless stress. if you're confident then you can achieve incredible results, regardless of appearance.


psychological health is far more important for happiness than physiological health.
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
June 02 2011 16:39 GMT
#133
On June 03 2011 01:17 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 01:10 Ravencruiser wrote:
Maybe I just have incredible amounts of willpower, but I go on a 3 apple+3 bowls of cereal / day diet after a few weeks of binge drinking and the stomach fat just vaporise with a week.

Yah, I'm all ready for the beaches with my secksy secksy 6 pack ^_^


Undereating will make you lose fat AND muscle.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fag Pack


I usually workout at least every other day eating a ton with vitamin and protein powder supplements so I'm decently toned to say the least. The diet is just to cut those stubborn stomach fat fast which would otherwise take at least 1-2 months to shave. Not worried about muscle mass loss thanks ^^
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 02 2011 16:40 GMT
#134
On June 03 2011 01:34 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 01:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Did you miss sex before you had it? Every fat or overweight person that states "I'm happy as I am" or satisfied with what I got does say that, because they don't know better. I had 30-40lbs more than I have now. (I'm 176, 76KG and still want to lose 4KG to push body fat down a bit). You feel so much better, more active... more fit, everything.

A fat person can say whatever he/she wants - being healthy is better and feels better.



congratulations, but it's totally arrogant and ignorant to suggest that all overweight people will feel better if they lose 30-40lbs. i know plenty of overweight people who would disagree with you, they are comfortable and show more confidence than most people of average weight (who are instead self-conscious about other stuff like hair, mole, lack of muscle, height, hygeine, occupation etc).


for the record i lost about 50lbs during the same time i had my growth spurt to 6' 4". but i feel better about myself because i figured out that being self-conscious and worrying about stupid stuff is pointless stress. if you're confident then you can achieve anything, regardless of appearance.


psychological health is far more important for happiness than physiological health.


First of all, how is it arrogant. Could be ignorant but I seem to miss your point, since you agree that you feel better with less weight. They can say they are happy as they are, but I would say, they would be even more happy with less weight.

Its just like the same bullshit when people say "looks doesn't matter when falling in love" - yes, they do. First thing you see are the "looks" - not more, not less. You would never go and chat up a girl you don't like from the looks to begin with.

Thats how the human mind works, at least partly. I never said that you should worry about everything and obviously psychological health is more important, yet being more healthy and havinga good body will only bring advantages if you don't want to force it.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
PerkyPenguin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
June 02 2011 16:47 GMT
#135
Absolute fantastic read. This just made me pumped to start another diet! Thanks for your post, and congradulations on all of your accomplishments!.
koshr
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany61 Posts
June 02 2011 16:50 GMT
#136
why does everyone say u need some kind of uber special diet, last year i lost 30 kilos in under 3 months by just starting sport everyday and not eat fucking fastfood and unhealthy stuff at the evening and bam
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:54:45
June 02 2011 16:53 GMT
#137
On June 03 2011 01:40 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 01:34 shizna wrote:
On June 03 2011 01:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Did you miss sex before you had it? Every fat or overweight person that states "I'm happy as I am" or satisfied with what I got does say that, because they don't know better. I had 30-40lbs more than I have now. (I'm 176, 76KG and still want to lose 4KG to push body fat down a bit). You feel so much better, more active... more fit, everything.

A fat person can say whatever he/she wants - being healthy is better and feels better.



congratulations, but it's totally arrogant and ignorant to suggest that all overweight people will feel better if they lose 30-40lbs. i know plenty of overweight people who would disagree with you, they are comfortable and show more confidence than most people of average weight (who are instead self-conscious about other stuff like hair, mole, lack of muscle, height, hygeine, occupation etc).


for the record i lost about 50lbs during the same time i had my growth spurt to 6' 4". but i feel better about myself because i figured out that being self-conscious and worrying about stupid stuff is pointless stress. if you're confident then you can achieve anything, regardless of appearance.


psychological health is far more important for happiness than physiological health.


First of all, how is it arrogant. Could be ignorant but I seem to miss your point, since you agree that you feel better with less weight. They can say they are happy as they are, but I would say, they would be even more happy with less weight.

Its just like the same bullshit when people say "looks doesn't matter when falling in love" - yes, they do. First thing you see are the "looks" - not more, not less. You would never go and chat up a girl you don't like from the looks to begin with.

Thats how the human mind works, at least partly. I never said that you should worry about everything and obviously psychological health is more important, yet being more healthy and havinga good body will only bring advantages if you don't want to force it.


right... so you believe that you feel better if you lose weight because you become more sexually attractive and therefore have a better chance of pulling a hot bod?

you come accross as being pretty shallow.

if it makes you feel happy, great. but consider the possiblity that not everyone is the same. you should also question the reason why losing weight made you feel happier with yourself... because appearance shouldn't matter.
Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
June 02 2011 16:57 GMT
#138
Pretty good info.. but you coulda just said cut the carbs, and stick to a high protein in your diet. Your pretty much forcing your body to utilize the fat for energy since there is very little carb. Pro body builders do this exact same thing except with alot more quantity.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 17:00:17
June 02 2011 16:58 GMT
#139
On June 03 2011 01:53 shizna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 01:40 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On June 03 2011 01:34 shizna wrote:
On June 03 2011 01:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Did you miss sex before you had it? Every fat or overweight person that states "I'm happy as I am" or satisfied with what I got does say that, because they don't know better. I had 30-40lbs more than I have now. (I'm 176, 76KG and still want to lose 4KG to push body fat down a bit). You feel so much better, more active... more fit, everything.

A fat person can say whatever he/she wants - being healthy is better and feels better.



congratulations, but it's totally arrogant and ignorant to suggest that all overweight people will feel better if they lose 30-40lbs. i know plenty of overweight people who would disagree with you, they are comfortable and show more confidence than most people of average weight (who are instead self-conscious about other stuff like hair, mole, lack of muscle, height, hygeine, occupation etc).


for the record i lost about 50lbs during the same time i had my growth spurt to 6' 4". but i feel better about myself because i figured out that being self-conscious and worrying about stupid stuff is pointless stress. if you're confident then you can achieve anything, regardless of appearance.


psychological health is far more important for happiness than physiological health.


First of all, how is it arrogant. Could be ignorant but I seem to miss your point, since you agree that you feel better with less weight. They can say they are happy as they are, but I would say, they would be even more happy with less weight.

Its just like the same bullshit when people say "looks doesn't matter when falling in love" - yes, they do. First thing you see are the "looks" - not more, not less. You would never go and chat up a girl you don't like from the looks to begin with.

Thats how the human mind works, at least partly. I never said that you should worry about everything and obviously psychological health is more important, yet being more healthy and havinga good body will only bring advantages if you don't want to force it.


right... so you believe that you feel better if you lose weight because you become more sexually attractive and therefore have a better chance of pulling a hot bod?

you come accross as being pretty shallow.

if it makes you feel happy, great. but consider the possiblity that not everyone is the same. you should also question the reason why losing weight made you feel happier with yourself... because appearance shouldn't matter.


Becoming more sexually attractive is just a side effect. Its just that you feel better, because you have more stamina, you don't sweat as fast, you feel more healthy, more fit all around. How am I shallow, just because I'm saying that a good body only brings advantages?

When you say you lost like 50lbs, you should know what I'm talking about. I'm not interested in pulling chicks left and right, but in living healthy and doing myself a favor. If someone wants to be overweight and is satisfied with that, its fine for me - but doesn't change my opinion that I'm certain the person would be more glad if he/she would know the difference.


Edit: I also have overweight friends and I have no problem with people being overweight. I can have fun with them as I can with other people, I do not laugh at them or anything, how am I shallow. Its just a different opinion and you are being ignorant my friend ;-)
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#140
On June 02 2011 13:43 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Also, I would recommend not sitting as much, if possible. I just read this article that gave some insight on just how bad excessive sitting is.

Oh gosh... I'm going for a walk around the office... :\
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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