EPTNaomi Cambell threatens sue over "racist" advert - Page 4
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thee telescopes
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
That said, I don't get how a chocolate bar could be a diva. | ||
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Zinnwaldite
Norway1567 Posts
On June 01 2011 21:26 Supamang wrote: Fair enough man. And when people pick out black people eating fried chicken as the stereotype to use to bully someone, thats a problem right? Im gonna give you some slack since youre not from the US and you might not know about the "black people love fried chicken" stereotype. The thing is,, most stereotypes have some truth to them. For example, dancing is and has always been a part of the many african cultures, african americans have it in them because many of them ar part of a family that was once shipped over from africa to be slaves. So a sterotypical african loves to dance when they're happy. Now i've traveled around africa a bit and so many of them dance when they're happy, and it is honestly one of the greatest things i've seen. But if i twist it,, i can say,,africans dance like savages, they talk like monkeys and they are all beneath me. I know about the ¨black people love fried chicken¨ stereotype. Now answer me this: Do many black people like fried chicken? Is there some truth to this stereotype? Most likely. Do all black people like fried chicken? No, but most if not all stereotypes are exaggerated versions of a fact. It's important to separate stereotypes from prejudice. The stereotype that says ¨all black people love fried chicken¨ Really only means that many black people like to eat fried chicken, and that is most likely true for many areas in the united states. But when you hear the stereotypical phrase and think that it is an absolute fact,, it becomes prejudice, and from there it becomes racist. The real issue is in the way people think about the stereotypes, not the stereotypes themselves. Stereotypes are there to say,, oh hey,, these people tend to have that in common,, they are not meant to point out all sorts of things as fact, that is what prejudice does. | ||
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Albrithe
Canada187 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On June 01 2011 20:37 Supamang wrote: Uhhh, imma let you in on something Naomi Campbell...theres way worse commercials than that jpeg youre crying over: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCT77YNHsk&feature=related and this is one of the more mild ones Theres your problem. I see a guy eating chicken and dancing, advertising for some chicken company... You see a black guy and think this is racist because he's black. | ||
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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Hamster
United Kingdom156 Posts
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On June 01 2011 20:42 veljanov wrote: in sweden we have theese chocolate balls that was always called neger(nigger)bollar(balls), but ofc that aint allowed any more for some quite good resons, just plain old choclate balls now. It's actually "negroballs" not niggerballs. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Wyk
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On June 01 2011 21:55 GreEny K wrote: Theres your problem. I see a guy eating chicken and dancing, advertising for some chicken company... You see a black guy and think this is racist because he's black. interesting that the only people complaining about my post are non-Americans. you guys just arent familiar with the racial stereotypes here so its forgivable, but the self-righteous tones are really starting to piss me off | ||
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
yeah... | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On June 01 2011 21:54 Sebzou wrote: The thing is,, most stereotypes have some truth to them. For example, dancing is and has always been a part of the many african cultures, african americans have it in them because many of them ar part of a family that was once shipped over from africa to be slaves. So a sterotypical african loves to dance when they're happy. Now i've traveled around africa a bit and so many of them dance when they're happy, and it is honestly one of the greatest things i've seen. But if i twist it,, i can say,,africans dance like savages, they talk like monkeys and they are all beneath me. I know about the ¨black people love fried chicken¨ stereotype. Now answer me this: Do many black people like fried chicken? Is there some truth to this stereotype? Most likely. Do all black people like fried chicken? No, but most if not all stereotypes are exaggerated versions of a fact. It's important to separate stereotypes from prejudice. The stereotype that says ¨all black people love fried chicken¨ Really only means that many black people like to eat fried chicken, and that is most likely true for many areas in the united states. But when you hear the stereotypical phrase and think that it is an absolute fact,, it becomes prejudice, and from there it becomes racist. The real issue is in the way people think about the stereotypes, not the stereotypes themselves. Stereotypes are there to say,, oh hey,, these people tend to have that in common,, they are not meant to point out all sorts of things as fact, that is what prejudice does. Dude, I dont know why were even arguing. I agree with most of your points. The only thing we disagree on is that goofy commercial. You said its not racist at all. I agree to some extent. People make fun of black people for eating fried chicken here so I think its very mildly offensive, but still more offensive than the thing Naomi Campbell is whining about. My whole post was to point out how ridiculous Naomi's complaint was. I was posting a barely offensive video and saying it was still more offensive than Naomi's commercial. It was mostly an excuse to post a video I found to be hilarious. And somehow i get a bunch of white people to bitch about me about being hypersensitive. wtf is up with that? EDIT: Im gonna disagree with something you said. I think stereotypes in and of themselves are not good. It dehumanizes a group of people by slightly suggesting that they lack individualism. Its demeaning when people think they know a lot about you just because youre a certain race. Its best to get to know people on a case by case basis. | ||
KwarK
United States44285 Posts
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Tachyon
Denmark146 Posts
On June 01 2011 20:19 Jayme wrote: SO it's racist now to point out that someone has the same color skin as a chocolate bar?  I feel like there's a Michael Jackson joke here somewhere... OT: Kinda ridiculous if she goes through with it, and don't her winning at all | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On June 01 2011 22:06 HellRoxYa wrote: It's actually "negroballs" not niggerballs. In my middle school everyone was looking forward to the lunch break to play a satisfying game of "nigger". Even the black kids loved nigger. It's Naomi Campbell's right to sue I guess, but she should lighten up. | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On June 01 2011 22:15 bonifaceviii wrote: Took blood diamonds as a gift from an African warlord, complains about a chocolate bar advertisement calling her a diva. yeah... yeah, makes you wonder if it would have been different had they just sent some chocolate to her ;D | ||
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