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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 13:08:37
November 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#1121
On November 09 2014 21:11 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Any singers here? Every now and then I try and get better at playing guitar/singing. Just now I recorded a quick thing and I HATE the way I sound. Any tips? Obviously one thing is hitting the notes better which I need to work on, the production quality isn't great of course either (it's a quick recording) but in the end I even just hate how I sound, voice-wise. It's so boring and dry.

Is there any way to improve that with technique or something? To project your voice more, to sound better? Or am I just unlucky and born with a horrible singing voice lol

LINK: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42455/riseagainst.mp3

(it's the chorus of Rise Against's Paper Wings)


Haha, I was about to make a post like this, also singing Rise Against!

High five brosefine!
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2500 Posts
November 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#1122
On November 09 2014 21:11 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Any singers here? Every now and then I try and get better at playing guitar/singing. Just now I recorded a quick thing and I HATE the way I sound. Any tips? Obviously one thing is hitting the notes better which I need to work on, the production quality isn't great of course either (it's a quick recording) but in the end I even just hate how I sound, voice-wise. It's so boring and dry.

Is there any way to improve that with technique or something? To project your voice more, to sound better? Or am I just unlucky and born with a horrible singing voice lol

LINK: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42455/riseagainst.mp3

(it's the chorus of Rise Against's Paper Wings)


i hear your voice and it sounds unique to me.
+ Show Spoiler +

- to project your voice more you will need to practice abdomen/stomach breathing. Basically most people when they breath, they do so with the lungs and let they upper chest of their bodies rise as they fill with air. The correct way of breathing, is by using and expanding your solar plexis and the muscles in your stomach. Everybody breaths this way when they are sleeping. If you notice right before you go to sleep and lay down you will start breathing in this natural pattern again. If you have a dog look at how he/she breaths, cause they do correctly. This is the first thing you should learn for singing, since it will enable you to support more easily your voice in the long run and your projection will be extremly louder and you will be able to keep the tone. Once you work on this, try and sing sometimes while you are performing other daily common operations. (like driving or in the shower) there is a reason why many people do this.
- another thing i notice is you seem to divide the guitar and the voice. You should work more on binding them toghether. there are several ways to do this:
one technique is to play the song first with one instrument (first voice or guitar), without the other, then try it again toghether. you can also record them seperatly and practice one and/or the other.
another technique is to play and sing the chorus of rise against paper wings, with a slower tempo, to practice. the rehearse it at your normal tempo.
- as far as being on the right tone, you seem to already have a good intonation; one tip i could give is to strike single notes on the guitar, let them resonate and equal them with your voice.

on the psychological side, don' t worry if you "hate" your voice atm. its a stage that will pass if you keep on singing. i used to hate listening to my voice, even just while talking, now i just listen and see where needs improvements and what parts are okay.


keep on singing and playing, just saying
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
November 09 2014 14:43 GMT
#1123
On November 09 2014 21:52 pebble444 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 21:11 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Any singers here? Every now and then I try and get better at playing guitar/singing. Just now I recorded a quick thing and I HATE the way I sound. Any tips? Obviously one thing is hitting the notes better which I need to work on, the production quality isn't great of course either (it's a quick recording) but in the end I even just hate how I sound, voice-wise. It's so boring and dry.

Is there any way to improve that with technique or something? To project your voice more, to sound better? Or am I just unlucky and born with a horrible singing voice lol

LINK: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42455/riseagainst.mp3

(it's the chorus of Rise Against's Paper Wings)


i hear your voice and it sounds unique to me.
+ Show Spoiler +

- to project your voice more you will need to practice abdomen/stomach breathing. Basically most people when they breath, they do so with the lungs and let they upper chest of their bodies rise as they fill with air. The correct way of breathing, is by using and expanding your solar plexis and the muscles in your stomach. Everybody breaths this way when they are sleeping. If you notice right before you go to sleep and lay down you will start breathing in this natural pattern again. If you have a dog look at how he/she breaths, cause they do correctly. This is the first thing you should learn for singing, since it will enable you to support more easily your voice in the long run and your projection will be extremly louder and you will be able to keep the tone. Once you work on this, try and sing sometimes while you are performing other daily common operations. (like driving or in the shower) there is a reason why many people do this.
- another thing i notice is you seem to divide the guitar and the voice. You should work more on binding them toghether. there are several ways to do this:
one technique is to play the song first with one instrument (first voice or guitar), without the other, then try it again toghether. you can also record them seperatly and practice one and/or the other.
another technique is to play and sing the chorus of rise against paper wings, with a slower tempo, to practice. the rehearse it at your normal tempo.
- as far as being on the right tone, you seem to already have a good intonation; one tip i could give is to strike single notes on the guitar, let them resonate and equal them with your voice.

on the psychological side, don' t worry if you "hate" your voice atm. its a stage that will pass if you keep on singing. i used to hate listening to my voice, even just while talking, now i just listen and see where needs improvements and what parts are okay.


keep on singing and playing, just saying


Hey, awesome. Thanks for the tips, I will take them to heart! I've already been trying to get better at hitting notes by picking single tones and then trying the match them. I've been trying to breathe from the lower part of my body just now and I think I have it down. Basically instead of moving my ribcage, it moves my stomach. Really weird feeling at first and I don't think I can actually speak/sing while doing it quite yet! :p

I recorded another take of the same thing with much better gear just now as I had a bit more time, I feel more confident about this already: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42455/riseagainst2.mp3
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 17:52:58
November 09 2014 14:59 GMT
#1124
Unfortunately I'm bad at singing too so can't give you tips, but I did ask a vocal teacher from a music school if everyone can sing better.
And she said, everyone has the capacity to sing at a good level with proper technique and practice. However, to reach the top in singing is something that is innate.

So I know you can do it, if you find someway to improve :D

Also your voice doesn't sound horrible


Edit: Also, thanks for the PM tips!
I think I'm getting the hang of it

The video helped a lot too
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 09 2014 22:33 GMT
#1125
I've been struggling to get down a technique for quite some time now.

Any fingerstyle enthusiasts here who has mastered the snare / kick percussion?
Snare is easy enough, because it's usually on a beat when you don't have to play further notes, but I can't for the life of me to the kick sound (hitting the wood above the neck with the base of your thumb) while still striking notes.

If it weren't for that, I could keep a steady (if somewhat simple) kick / snare going throughout a song, but I'm dropping notes on every kick.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
November 23 2014 01:43 GMT
#1126
Hey guys, is it better to upgrade the pickups on one guitar or get a second backup guitar? I'm wondering because I don't want to do this for a while cuz I love my strat, but if I want to join a band a make some cash playing local gigs doing covers then what is best?
User was warned for too many mimes.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
November 23 2014 01:49 GMT
#1127
Depends how much you want to spend. By having another guitar, you can leave it in a different tuning (if you play stuff in different tunings), but by upgrading the pickups you'll probably have a bigger increase in sound quality. New pickups cost ~$150 total, but buying a new guitar can run you upwards of $500 for something that's at least passable.

I'd say it's up to you and your level of investment. A new guitar will give you more versatility, but is a bigger investment and more of a hassle to deal with.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
November 23 2014 18:18 GMT
#1128
On November 23 2014 10:49 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Depends how much you want to spend. By having another guitar, you can leave it in a different tuning (if you play stuff in different tunings), but by upgrading the pickups you'll probably have a bigger increase in sound quality. New pickups cost ~$150 total, but buying a new guitar can run you upwards of $500 for something that's at least passable.

I'd say it's up to you and your level of investment. A new guitar will give you more versatility, but is a bigger investment and more of a hassle to deal with.

That's pretty true on the hassle part. My professor told me that it depends on what I'm looking to do with the Strat I have now. It's an MIM which is greater for modding, but if I'm not looking to keep that guitar for when I'm out of college, then there's not point to mod it. If I am looking to do that, then modding it makes sense and I can pick up another guitar along the road.
User was warned for too many mimes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 23 2014 19:43 GMT
#1129
I'd say it all depends on two things, the first being the general quality (I mean wood, tuners, construction, etc, everything that isn't the pickups) of your guitar and the second being if you feel like your current guitar allows you to cover most of the styles you would play in local gigs. Afaik MIM Strats aren't bad guitars for the money (well obviously it'll vary from guitar to guitar) and are a good basis for modding, so if you feel like a Strat fits the style of music you would play, upgrading your pickups seems like a good idea.
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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 25 2014 02:23 GMT
#1130
On November 10 2014 07:33 SixStrings wrote:
I've been struggling to get down a technique for quite some time now.

Any fingerstyle enthusiasts here who has mastered the snare / kick percussion?
Snare is easy enough, because it's usually on a beat when you don't have to play further notes, but I can't for the life of me to the kick sound (hitting the wood above the neck with the base of your thumb) while still striking notes.

If it weren't for that, I could keep a steady (if somewhat simple) kick / snare going throughout a song, but I'm dropping notes on every kick.


Guys?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 25 2014 09:07 GMT
#1131
Sorry i'm bad at fingerpicking beyond the super basic stuff
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
November 25 2014 17:53 GMT
#1132
Can't help you there, sorry mate
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 25 2014 20:20 GMT
#1133
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK i forgot to close my SG's case, it fell off when i was going out and now it's dinged pretty noticably in two places. I've had the thing for 7 years and it certainly isn't mint, but this is the first time i scratch it after being a complete moron
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
DrCooper
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany261 Posts
November 25 2014 20:45 GMT
#1134
On November 26 2014 05:20 Teoita wrote:
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK i forgot to close my SG's case, it fell off when i was going out and now it's dinged pretty noticably in two places. I've had the thing for 7 years and it certainly isn't mint, but this is the first time i scratch it after being a complete moron

So your Gibson fell down and you got 2 dings? That's a win my brother, your lucky the headstock didn't fall off.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 25 2014 20:51 GMT
#1135
Well it fell down sideways and it wasn't very high up, so little chance the headstock was going to break. The dings are pretty big and right in the front though poor baby now i'll spend the whole night apologizing to her (yes, my Gibson is a she).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
November 25 2014 20:53 GMT
#1136
Anyone have any recommendations for finding accurate bass guitar tabs online? I've only ever used bigbasstabs.com before but I'm looking for more reliable sites.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 26 2014 04:11 GMT
#1137
Oh man, I bought one of those notched straightedge things off ebay for like $20 (not one of those insanely expensive stewart macdonald ones). I now consider those essential, especially for Canadians or other northern people since the cold messes up necks so badly. I took my 7 string Ibanez that was completely out of whack, messed up neck (severe forward bow), horrid intonation and more, and had it to Ibanez spec with a perfectly straight neck and perfect intonation in under an hour. They make doing truss rod stuff so fast to do. Usually that takes a long time because eyeballing it is impossible so I usually have to check by feel. Now I just detune/remove the strings, put the neck into a touch of a backbow, and It'llbe golden once it's retuned up. That thing combined with that swiss army knife tool thingy that came with my RG3250, a set of allen keys, and a set of feeler gauges makes it so setups take so much less time.

I find it weird that some Ibanezes have different tools required for truss rods. My cheapy 7 required a 4mm allen key while my RG3250 uses a box wrench-style thing. Though I wouldn't be shocked if the truss rod in the 3250 was significantly better quality given that it's a Japanese prestige and the 7 is a cheaper one made in Indonesia.

On November 26 2014 05:53 TBone- wrote:
Anyone have any recommendations for finding accurate bass guitar tabs online? I've only ever used bigbasstabs.com before but I'm looking for more reliable sites.

I just use ultimate guitar. It's hit or miss but usually the rating are fairly reliable. I just use it for the musical notation and figure out the fingerings myself because usually they're either way off or super inefficient. Or I buy books for some things. I bought a bunch of Jaco Pastorius books because they were like $10-15 each and had every song I would ever want to know by him in them. Though I'm probably the outlier because I prefer paper books to reading off the computer screen.

"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
November 26 2014 14:49 GMT
#1138
On November 25 2014 11:23 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2014 07:33 SixStrings wrote:
I've been struggling to get down a technique for quite some time now.

Any fingerstyle enthusiasts here who has mastered the snare / kick percussion?
Snare is easy enough, because it's usually on a beat when you don't have to play further notes, but I can't for the life of me to the kick sound (hitting the wood above the neck with the base of your thumb) while still striking notes.

If it weren't for that, I could keep a steady (if somewhat simple) kick / snare going throughout a song, but I'm dropping notes on every kick.


Guys?

There are some finger stylist guys on youtube that are pretty good. I enjoy it but I'm super bad at it and can only do the basic stuff.
User was warned for too many mimes.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 26 2014 16:15 GMT
#1139
That's fine, I'll figure it out eventually. I probably just need to practice until it finally clicks in my brain, but it's not an easy thing to master.

Has any of you ever taken their guitars on a flight?
I don't feel like buying a flight case, is there any way they'll let me just keep my lute at my person?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 26 2014 16:23 GMT
#1140
The only time i did it was when i flew back from the US to Europe after spending one year there; they let me carry the case on board as a carry on (along with a backpack) without any trouble. I would never ever ever ever ever ever check it in and let anyone else handle it though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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