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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 17:44 BeaSteR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:39 Zandar wrote:
In other news: Chuck Norris just returned from a holiday in Pakistan. Haha ye that must be the case man! :D
Uh, no. Osama was shot. Chuck doesn't use / need guns. It's pure coincidence, nothing more.
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From the funny pictures thread, don't know if i'm going to get warned..... (pls no XD)
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On May 02 2011 17:44 BeaSteR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:39 Zandar wrote:
In other news: Chuck Norris just returned from a holiday in Pakistan. Haha ye that must be the case man! :D
Chuck Norris was actually leading the attack
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On May 02 2011 17:41 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:36 FaZe wrote:
Osama was a bad man, but in the end killing him means nothing. No, it means everything. A guy like him doesn't come around every year.
It all depends on the propaganda. Killing Jesus didn't reallya stop his cult from becoming rather popular - even if a guy like him didn't come around in the oast 2000 years. Don't get me wrong, I know that this comparison is a bit tastelss. But what I am trying to point out is that if sufficient people subscribe to the view that Osama is some sort of holy martyr, this might actally strenghten Al-quaeda in the long run. No one can tell, at this point, whether it is a net gain for the US or not.
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All life is sacred yet murder is bad decision making and should in no way effect the value of a man.
What the fuck...I have to be missing something.
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On May 02 2011 16:58 kaisen wrote:![[image loading]](http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/122/a/6/ftw_by_wolvensong-d3fe6n6.jpg)
I LAFFED out loud at work here hahahahaha trollface rofl... What a world this is where people can think of these things. 7/10 
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On May 02 2011 17:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
He DECLARED WAR on the united states. When you declare war on something, that thing might kill you.
Bin Laden was a nation by himself?
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On May 02 2011 17:42 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:36 FaZe wrote:On May 02 2011 17:15 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 02 2011 17:02 FaZe wrote:On May 02 2011 16:35 travis wrote:"Durrr, you're trolling." Well thought out retort guys. I said nothing that isn't true. If his death brings more peace to the world then that's great but I am not going to celebrate someone's death, let alone the death of someone I didn't know. On May 02 2011 16:35 Angra wrote:On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:On May 02 2011 16:08 ryanAnger wrote:
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If Australia were put into the exact circumstances that the US is currently, the reaction would be exactly the same.
We aren't monsters for celebrating the death of a monster. ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it? What if the people seen celebrating had family or friends who died in the 9/11 attacks? Shouldn't they be happy then that their family/friends' killer was brought to justice? Or should they just take it with a straight face and show no emotion whatsoever, even though they had personal connections to deaths from a terrorist attack? Maybe you're the one who's being insensitive by telling other people how they should be reacting when they could potentially have a HUGE emotional investment in this whole thing, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, children, loved friends. Ever think about that? Those people would be celebrating in the name of revenge. And while that's common, it's definitely on the undesirable side when it comes to behavior. Anyways, most of these people were not that emotionally invested. He was undeniably evil. But what made him that way? Reflecting on his life, we should mourn for the hate and anger that people inflict on one another that cause these actions. If he was brought up in a 1st world, developed country - I'm sure his life would have gone differently. Instead of striving for understanding and compassion, we cheer the death of our enemies. It's self destructive. If he was brought up in a 1st world developed country? He came from an extremely wealthy family. The man was a mass murderer. He is the one responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I celebrate him being killed. Why? Because he deserved it. Because I know people who lost family in 9/11. They have told be they can sleep just a little bit easier knowing he has been killed. That right there is enough for me to celebrate because those people have gone through hell and they never deserved it. This man brought so much pain to millions of people. Him being killed helps relieve it just a tiny bit. So before you criticize someone for celebrating his death, imagine your brother being killed along with 1000s of others because of this man. Wouldn't you be happy that the man responsible for it all has been brought to justice? He hated who he hated because that's who he was taught to hate. 250,000 Japanese civilians were killed when the US Firebombed Japanese civilian populations. 250,000 innocent people, burned to death. The giving end calls it war, the receiving end calls it terrorism. Osama was a bad man, but in the end killing him means nothing. It's only a change in the current in the ocean of worldly hate. It's the misunderstanding and lack of tolerance that people need to fight. As Che Guavera once said : "Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man". It's not who he was taught to hate, it is who he decided to hate. His sister doesn't hate the people he did and they grew up together. Its not something he was being fed since birth. It was a decision he made. And you cannot compare WWII to what Osama did. Sure killing him doesn't end terrorism, but it certainly does mean something to those who have been effected by his attacks on innocent people.
I would be interested to know what circumstances led him to decide to hate.
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On May 02 2011 17:47 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
He DECLARED WAR on the united states. When you declare war on something, that thing might kill you. Bin Laden was a nation by himself?
His organization, al qaeda, declared war on the U.S., with him being the declarer.
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I like how the mods have the ability to put that little white bar at the top saying
"Keep it civil guys" =)
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On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
you assume that it was possible to capture him alive without losing the lives of US soldiers. you assume that the Pakistan government would have allowed for Bin Laden to leave their custody. you assume that in a firefight that lasted about 40 (?) minutes, that it would have been possible to just take him out of the mansion quietly. the US soldiers did what was necessary.
we captured Saddam alive (different circumstances), gave him a public trial, and then executed him. most likely, that would have been ideal for bin laden as well. make an example out of him in front of the world, execute him, and then dump his body at sea. just came down to would we rather have bin laden dead or give him a chance to escape again.
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On May 02 2011 17:48 FaZe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 02 2011 17:36 FaZe wrote:On May 02 2011 17:15 jmbthirteen wrote:On May 02 2011 17:02 FaZe wrote:On May 02 2011 16:35 travis wrote:"Durrr, you're trolling." Well thought out retort guys. I said nothing that isn't true. If his death brings more peace to the world then that's great but I am not going to celebrate someone's death, let alone the death of someone I didn't know. On May 02 2011 16:35 Angra wrote:On May 02 2011 16:29 diehilde wrote:On May 02 2011 16:26 ryanAnger wrote:On May 02 2011 16:22 travis wrote:
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ppl are monsters for celebrating any man's death, if that's what they are actually celebrating
he was born a child, he had a mother and father and hopes and dreams. he had challenges and successes and love and fear and hate. that's reality. he was just a man like you or me and now he is dead. You're a fool if you actually feel this way. Sure, he was a man, just like you and me, but that is where the similarities end. He was human, but there was no humanity about him. I celebrate his death because he deserved to die, and that is undeniable. with the same reasoning people in the middle east celebrated the death of the 9/11 victims. I guess the difference is they are wrong and you are right, isnt it? What if the people seen celebrating had family or friends who died in the 9/11 attacks? Shouldn't they be happy then that their family/friends' killer was brought to justice? Or should they just take it with a straight face and show no emotion whatsoever, even though they had personal connections to deaths from a terrorist attack? Maybe you're the one who's being insensitive by telling other people how they should be reacting when they could potentially have a HUGE emotional investment in this whole thing, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, children, loved friends. Ever think about that? Those people would be celebrating in the name of revenge. And while that's common, it's definitely on the undesirable side when it comes to behavior. Anyways, most of these people were not that emotionally invested. He was undeniably evil. But what made him that way? Reflecting on his life, we should mourn for the hate and anger that people inflict on one another that cause these actions. If he was brought up in a 1st world, developed country - I'm sure his life would have gone differently. Instead of striving for understanding and compassion, we cheer the death of our enemies. It's self destructive. If he was brought up in a 1st world developed country? He came from an extremely wealthy family. The man was a mass murderer. He is the one responsible for the 9/11 attacks. I celebrate him being killed. Why? Because he deserved it. Because I know people who lost family in 9/11. They have told be they can sleep just a little bit easier knowing he has been killed. That right there is enough for me to celebrate because those people have gone through hell and they never deserved it. This man brought so much pain to millions of people. Him being killed helps relieve it just a tiny bit. So before you criticize someone for celebrating his death, imagine your brother being killed along with 1000s of others because of this man. Wouldn't you be happy that the man responsible for it all has been brought to justice? He hated who he hated because that's who he was taught to hate. 250,000 Japanese civilians were killed when the US Firebombed Japanese civilian populations. 250,000 innocent people, burned to death. The giving end calls it war, the receiving end calls it terrorism. Osama was a bad man, but in the end killing him means nothing. It's only a change in the current in the ocean of worldly hate. It's the misunderstanding and lack of tolerance that people need to fight. As Che Guavera once said : "Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man". It's not who he was taught to hate, it is who he decided to hate. His sister doesn't hate the people he did and they grew up together. Its not something he was being fed since birth. It was a decision he made. And you cannot compare WWII to what Osama did. Sure killing him doesn't end terrorism, but it certainly does mean something to those who have been effected by his attacks on innocent people. I would be interested to know what circumstances led him to decide to hate.
If you are sincerely interested, I suggest you begin by reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Looming_Tower and then read his speeches. It's very depressing to watch how his life unfolded...
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On May 02 2011 17:49 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:47 Hypemeup wrote:On May 02 2011 17:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
He DECLARED WAR on the united states. When you declare war on something, that thing might kill you. Bin Laden was a nation by himself? His organization, al qaeda, declared war on the U.S., with him being the declarer.
His point was that only states can legally declare war, not non-state actors.
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Nuclear hellstorm if Osama bin Laden is caught or killed: Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" on the West if their leader and world's most wanted terrorist Osama bin Laden is nabbed.
A senior al-Qaeda commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_nuclear-hellstorm-if-osama-bin-laden-is-caught-or-killed-al-qaeda_1535969
*ATTENTION TO THE DATE: Published: Monday, Apr 25, 2011,*
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On May 02 2011 17:50 Aurocaido wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:49 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:47 Hypemeup wrote:On May 02 2011 17:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
He DECLARED WAR on the united states. When you declare war on something, that thing might kill you. Bin Laden was a nation by himself? His organization, al qaeda, declared war on the U.S., with him being the declarer. His point was that only states can legally declare war, not non-state actors.
I think that went right over his head, so I was not going to bother to explain that to him.
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On May 02 2011 17:50 ImFromPortugal wrote:Nuclear hellstorm if Osama bin Laden is caught or killed: Al-QaedaAl-Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" on the West if their leader and world's most wanted terrorist Osama bin Laden is nabbed. A senior al-Qaeda commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks. http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_nuclear-hellstorm-if-osama-bin-laden-is-caught-or-killed-al-qaeda_1535969*ATTENTION TO THE DATE: Published: Monday, Apr 25, 2011,*
Uh oh, somebody fish osama out of the drink and prop him up on something!!
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So now that Osama is killed this means end to the war, right?
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On May 02 2011 17:51 Hypemeup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:50 Aurocaido wrote:On May 02 2011 17:49 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:47 Hypemeup wrote:On May 02 2011 17:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 02 2011 17:42 [F_]aths wrote:
I am not unhappy that he is dead, however I don't think it is okay to kill him without trial and to kill surrounding people, too.
He DECLARED WAR on the united states. When you declare war on something, that thing might kill you. Bin Laden was a nation by himself? His organization, al qaeda, declared war on the U.S., with him being the declarer. His point was that only states can legally declare war, not non-state actors. I think that went right over his head, so I was not going to bother to explain that to him.
Since it is a highly debated topic in international law whether or not state and non-state entities can declare war on each other and what legalities are involved, no it did not fly over my head. His organization made plain their intent to cause harm to our nation and its military, thus allowing military action against it.
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On May 02 2011 17:45 johanngrunt wrote:From the funny pictures thread, don't know if i'm going to get warned..... (pls no XD)
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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does anybody really think his death gonna change anything? he was a puppet of the american goverment all the time. people got trolled f****ing hardcore!
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