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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 01 2011 21:41 GMT
#181
I've been banned and warned several times and I'm really sorry for those things I did that might have upset mods.I really do like TeamLiquid.net and I dont wanna lose the chance to keep being part of this great community.
Seriously tho, stop banning me plz, I mean common Im that that bad last time Nazgul told me Im reaching my final lifes.

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BE GENTLE
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
April 01 2011 21:41 GMT
#182
On April 02 2011 05:00 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 04:58 clusen wrote:
What happens when you get a warning anyways? Do you get a pm with an explanation?

Yes. You get a pm and also a record of it is added to your account. Staff can see what you have been warned for in the past.


and once you're on that list, you can't get off.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 21:45:25
April 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#183
I've actually gained a ton of respect for TL's mods. I admit, when I first started out here, I saw the sheer number of bans and I was a bit skeptical. I got the impression that TL had a bunch of power-tripping mods that banned people on the drop of a dime. I made a couple of dumb, "bad" posts as mods like to put it (one one-liner, one joke that quite offensive) and got a 2-day ban and a 2-week ban, respectively.

Then, I shaped up and realized that the mods here are actually extremely fair in their judgments, and I realized that here wouldn't be a place for me to troll or be internet-immature as I like to call it. Here could be a place for me to actually try and put effort into my posts (which I also do on GameFAQs, but unfortunately the responses there are more often than not unsatisfactory, which anyone who frequents GameFAQs should know...) Here is a place where mods actually moderate somewhat heavily on the basis of a post's intelligence (at least, that's what I gleaned from browsing the Automated ban list).

I realized that mods are fine with any sort of opinion, whether it's popular or not, whether it's critical of a popular community figure or not, or even Teamliquid's own TSL, as long as you're thoughtful in your opinion's presentation, provide good evidence, and don't fall into disrespectful ad-hominem territory - it really facilitates the type of discussion that I often try to have on the internet but fail on most sites because there are too many morons/trolls. As far as mods on internet forms go, the ones on TL have greatly earned my respect and I've begun habitually frequenting the site now.... it's addicting T_T

So... yeah. I don't really have much of a fear of being banned anymore because the mods are actually quite fair. If you post smartly, you won't be banned, simple as that. And I know that if I ever get a warning/temp-ban in the future, it'll be very likely be justified.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 01 2011 21:44 GMT
#184
Does anyone know if there are consequences to warns, like 10 warns and ur out?

I've gotten 2 temp bans and 4 warns so far.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
April 01 2011 21:45 GMT
#185
On April 02 2011 05:05 tofucake wrote:
I've decided to put together some charts for everybody. These are based off of my own observations and should be taken with a grain of salt.

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First up, the "What you post" chart. As you can see, it's quite easy to get banned. As you can also see, there are conflicting points. For instance, memes (in image form) and image macros are totally acceptable, in fact they are required, in the image thread, while elsewhere you will get banned for them. There's also the obvious martyring and flaming and such as well.


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Next up is the "Where you post" chart. This is a combination of forums, thread types, and even a specific thread. Obviously, if you've got a thread in the closed forum, you've got a good chance at being banned as well. SC2 Strategy is easily the easiest place to get banned. Even looking at it wrong can get you a warning.


[image loading]

And finally, the "Post count" chart. This one should be self explanatory. Newer people stand a decent chance at being banned, what with TL being so much different from the rest of the internet. Although, the longer you're here (ie: more posts) the more you get to know how TL works your chance goes down a bit until right around 1000 posts where you're like "pffft fuck that I'll only get warned for this, I have a thousand posts!" and then you get banned and you're like OKAY and you really do clean up and become a decent member of society. Then you hit 10000 posts and there's 1 of 3 things that happens.
1. You're fana, in which case you're gone
2. You're suddenly expected to act like some kind of example and even a simple typo gets you 30 days
4. What happened to 3?



Finally, there's what I call the iNcontroL Point. While technically not a number, if you can manage to attain a post count of iNcontroL you can literally do whatever you want and not even Zeus would be able to ban you. To date, this has only been acheived by iNcontroL, despite konadora's best attempts.



hilarious. laughed out loud. my dog looked at me funny.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
April 01 2011 21:48 GMT
#186
tbh The moderation on this website is pretty good, I really enjoy that it is moderated kind of strictly, especially since i don't troll or post meemes. And i really think the one or 2 warnings i got i deserved, so i really like the moderation.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
April 01 2011 21:48 GMT
#187
I've gotten one ban I deserved, cleaned up since and don't really worry about it anymore. As long as you put a bit of thought into your posts you're all set. Don't just post what first comes to mind...
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
April 01 2011 22:04 GMT
#188
Intuitively I see the mods as uptight nerds, lurking the forums and trying to wank their nerd ego by picking on small things, compensate much?

But rationally moderation is needed when you have so many new young people streaming in, and if I post stuff that I fund amusing here and there and get warned for it I guess I see it as a small price to pay for keeping the overall quality of the site high and not having people with thousands of posts with little value added.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 01 2011 22:08 GMT
#189
Oh I always fear =) Sometimes it's true, mostly just warnings though.

Hopefully my warnings are far enough apart and my report-spammage partially makes up for it. e_e
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
April 01 2011 22:14 GMT
#190
you are right to fear baning, team liquid is the most ban intensive forum i have ever seen! so many moderators around here
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#191
I get warned once in a while (actually not recently?) for making great posts in LR threads. Though generally not having antagonistic feelings toward people is good enough?

Hmm I did get warned by Plexa once for something that I can't remember, but I liked the warning.

From: Plexa [ 23722 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Warning!
Date: 5/1/10 14:25
This is a Warning!

Stop being so awesome
sheesh

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
Plexa
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
April 01 2011 22:24 GMT
#192
On April 02 2011 02:51 phil.ipp wrote:
@caradoc

no offense, but with all what is going on in the world you are afraid of a warning on TL?
you should seriously check your life priorities ..


You think very lowly of people if you think they can't have more than a few priorities. If you like something and you don't want it taken from you then you may have a priority not to do anything that would get it taken.
polar bears are fluffy
Herpadurr
Profile Joined January 2011
Monaco151 Posts
April 01 2011 22:24 GMT
#193
Why would you fear banning?
I've gotten my fair amount of warning and a ban before and I simply don't give a shit.
The mods on here are taking their job way too seriously (a.k.a. power-tripping), especially in the funny pictures thread. There are so many things in there that I regard as being funny that people got warned or even banned over that I can't take any of the mods seriously anymore.
The thread tells you not to debate over the pictures, yet a warning or a ban is exactly that.
Why not just implement a voting system so the users, not the mods, can decide whether a picture is funny or not and below a certain threshold the picture gets purged?
The website promotes communication but doesn't even give you any chance of appealing a warning or a ban or explaining what you meant, should there be a possibility of it being taken wrong. The system is a joke. There are political systems that work that way and you don't like them.
I have a rather harsh but efficient way of telling people that they're retarded or could have used Google and the likes and should I ever get banned for good, I'll just make a new account.
Dynamic IPs for the win.
And even if you're not on a dynamic IP: as long as you think you said the right thing and made your point clear and get banned regardless, you should realize that this community isn't quite smart enough to get what you're saying or at least whoever banned you isn't.
You're stupid. Stop it.
LuciferSC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada535 Posts
April 01 2011 22:26 GMT
#194
Yeah gotta hand it to the admins for doing great job.

Stay rational & logical, let your emotions and other factors stay away from your posts, and for most parts mods will let you go.
Come get some
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 01 2011 22:30 GMT
#195
I've made what I know to be terrible posts in the past, and still managed to survive completely unscathed for three years (including my old account) except the time I deliberately asked for a perm ban. You just know what line you don't have to cross as your TL experience accumulates; then, follow the advice on my sig for almost guaranteed 95% reduction on your warn/ban rate.

Never understood the mentality of those who always live in constant fear of mod PMing you- it's not good for your health... Despite, isn't mod messaging you kind of cool? Even though, of course, it may be that of condemnation where he calls you all kind of horrible things.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 01 2011 22:33 GMT
#196
Coming from the Battle.net forums, I was tripping balls with my first post. And the first thread I created got closed. A little piece of me died, but I think I've matured past that point. xD
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 01 2011 22:39 GMT
#197
Oh God...what happened to my old account, Mori600. I still feel horrible for what I did back then. I believe my quotes can still be found in the search engine. Bleh...something about being banned by people you admire really kills you deep inside. And when you get banned, it is not a "Fuck the police attitude," it feels like a punch in the face with a really hurtful but accurate reason from a teacher you really admire
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
April 01 2011 22:44 GMT
#198
Yeah, I don't really care but I've been banned for some pretty slight things. TL moderators demand you say things with political correctness\sensitivity gloves on.

You can pretty much say anything if you say it kindly enough
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
April 01 2011 22:48 GMT
#199
I've gotten banned by a self-professed (if I recall correctly) wemade-fan mod for posting an image macro of shine (though the image itself was accompanied a several lines of text, merely having it was cause enough), but I have never been warned.

I have had three requested temp-bans, however.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
April 01 2011 22:50 GMT
#200
On April 02 2011 05:16 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:13 CarlyZerg wrote:
I love the way this forum works. It's the only well-moderated forum on the Internet, imo. As long as you're not a total asshat, you don't have anything to worry about. The mods seem to take a user's entire post history into account when making decisions, which I think is a solid move.

When I make snipy or condescending posts at someone who I think deserves it, I don't worry about getting banned, because:

1) I'm not a a total asshat who types in caps or calls people fags

2) my overall post history shows an honest effort at being a good member of TL society.

In my entire time here I've gotten 1 warning for calling someone a troll.

For some of us who came from the world of Counter-Strike (for example, me), it was a long, hard journey before I was able to make quality posts. Yes, common sense dictates that nobody should have any problem sticking around and having fun. But if common sense were really so common we wouldn't have the Automated Ban List.


Yeah, the days of the Gotfrag and CAL forums are long gone for me as well, thank the lord! Course I don't have much to contribute to these forums so I don't post very often.
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
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