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On March 25 2011 09:33 SwiftSpear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 08:40 OneBlueAugust wrote:
You don't think Occam's Razor has anything to do with this discussion? Are you sure you're strong on the concept? It's kinda've hard to believe, seeing as how you put forth the following argument:
Man turns out to have a fake girlfriend
He swears he didn't know she was fake, and that someone else made her up
There is a history of him claiming to actually be physically with the girl, and of the girl having been physically with him.
You claim that he could be telling the truth about not creating her (even though all the known evidence supports that he did), but that he lied about being with her physically "because he's an IDIOT and he makes stuff up!"
The problem with your argument is that your premise (the whole basic assumption that it's based on) is that he's not a liar (IE: he's telling the truth about not making the girl up), but then your only solution to him saying that he had actually, physically been with the person is that he's an idiot and a liar.
What are you basing him being an idiot and a liar on, if not him making up his girlfriend? If he didn't make her up, there's no basis for that statement, and so there's no basis to disbelieve his claim that he'd actually been physically with her.
Your argument is based on nothing factual or citeable, and is in fact a bunch of maybe and might-haves. That's why I drew a correlary between it and the Birthers, because that is exactly the kind of pseudo-logic (or drivel) that they use in their arguments.
Basically, I'm getting trolled. That's fine. But for someone not versed in debate or logic, I figured I'd clear it up. You're saying "there's not enough evidence to support Claim A, therefore Claim B" when there's equally little evidence for claim B. That's also argumentative fallacy. Hasty Generalization. The only evidence that supports that he made up kimi as opposed to someone else making her up is that he claimed to be physically with her... which is something alot of people in e-relationships lie about, because it makes the whole thing look less pathetic than it is. Other than that, the evidence is equally strong to both claims. I'd argue that you have the burden of proof, since your claim requires an elaborate long term hoax, where as my claim requires a few white internet lies, which is something many many many internet users do all the time. And if you claim your argumentative logic credentials are any better than mine, you'll just be proving my point 
My claim requires an elaborate long-term hoax, and yours doesn't? You're claiming someone trolled this guy over the period of eight months for no clear reason, when I'm claiming a guy made up his girlfriend for the exact same reason your'e claiming he lied about being with her (so he won't look pathetic).
Seriously, are you guys for real?
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this whole thing is retarded
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Also, just putting this out there; Peter pretended to be his own legal team, and also created another blog pretending to be a 3rd party defending Peter.
It's no stretch to say that Peter would make up a girlfriend.
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http://xiaxue.blogspot.com/2011/03/peter-coffin-is-his-own-legal-team.html
He's going down. He'll never stop failing.
I found this need to unveil the truth quite ridiculous, since the results are exactly the same in either case (Pere being a liar or an incredibly naive retard). He's also showing a strong tendency to lie and make things up if this e-mail he sent is true!
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On March 25 2011 09:39 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:33 SwiftSpear wrote:
your claim requires an elaborate long term hoax, where as my claim requires a few white internet lies, which is something many many many internet users do all the time.
What? You are arguing that the same long-term hoax occurred, just that it was perpetrated by someone other than Peter Coffin. And so your theory involves a third, mystery actor whose motive for inventing a girlfriend for Peter Coffin is totally unclear.
In content they are similar. However, Kimi virtually never capitalizes a sentence central "I" pronoun. Peter always does. It would be very hard for an individual to be that consistent over hundreds and hundreds of tweets.
[edit] To clarify, I make no claims that Peter Coffin is an upstanding individual. He's obviously a retard. Who signs a letter he's written "Legal team"?
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On March 25 2011 09:49 SwiftSpear wrote:
Kimi is either an ugly Japanese girl, or possibly ugly Japanese gay guy, likely an American immigrant either way.
What does immigrant status have to do with anything? Why do you think this mystery impersonator is likely an immigrant?
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On March 25 2011 10:08 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 10:05 SwiftSpear wrote:On March 25 2011 09:39 JWD wrote:On March 25 2011 09:33 SwiftSpear wrote:
your claim requires an elaborate long term hoax, where as my claim requires a few white internet lies, which is something many many many internet users do all the time.
What? You are arguing that the same long-term hoax occurred, just that it was perpetrated by someone other than Peter Coffin. And so your theory involves a third, mystery actor whose motive for inventing a girlfriend for Peter Coffin is totally unclear. In content they are similar. However, Kimi virtually never capitalizes a sentence central "I" pronoun. Peter always does. It would be very hard for an individual to be that consistent over hundreds and hundreds of tweets. Are you Peter Coffin? I really can't see how anyone can not see what's going on.
Lol I was starting to suspect the same thing.
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On March 25 2011 10:05 SwiftSpear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:39 JWD wrote:On March 25 2011 09:33 SwiftSpear wrote:
your claim requires an elaborate long term hoax, where as my claim requires a few white internet lies, which is something many many many internet users do all the time.
What? You are arguing that the same long-term hoax occurred, just that it was perpetrated by someone other than Peter Coffin. And so your theory involves a third, mystery actor whose motive for inventing a girlfriend for Peter Coffin is totally unclear. In content they are similar. However, Kimi virtually never capitalizes a sentence central "I" pronoun. Peter always does. It would be very hard for an individual to be that consistent over hundreds and hundreds of tweets. [edit] To clarify, I make no claims that Peter Coffin is an upstanding individual. He's obviously a retard. Who signs a letter he's written "Legal team"?
Lol, virtually never, or never?
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Why are you guys defending the guy? It's obvious this is not a troll...Who in their right mind would maintain 3+ twitter accounts for 8+ months just to troll????
The point of this girl exposing him is because this guy has been on her case for quite a while now, constantly dishing shit out to her...the girl did a bit of digging on him and BAM she exposed him.
It's quite funny.
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On March 25 2011 10:06 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:49 SwiftSpear wrote:
Kimi is either an ugly Japanese girl, or possibly ugly Japanese gay guy, likely an American immigrant either way. What does immigrant status have to do with anything? Why do you think this mystery impersonator is likely an immigrant?
Not an immigrant, second generation. 'She' has the same personality of alot of second gen kids I know from school (Chinese and Japanese). The Japanese kids especially can have a really crude sense of humor, however, I think the racist humor comes from time spent in america, it's really common/popular there. Especially in the culture zones... although, she's probably Californian if I had to guess (I could be very wrong there though).
Once again, to clarify, I'm not sure it's not Peter, I just think it's reasonably possible. The evidence goes both ways. Certainly, if it WAS Peter, he'd be doing exactly what he is right now, but he'd be doing that if it wasn't him as well.
I think the old chat logs he has posted are reasonably good evidence to support his claim. It's a bit difficult I think to create elaborate predated chat logs (as if he knew someone would call him out 2-3 weeks later after 8 months of no one discovering they were the same individual). Their personalities seem really distinct in the chat logs as well, although that doesn't prove alot.
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Holy fuck guys. I think half the people posting in this thread might actually all be Peter Coffin. Its the only explanation.
Either that, or there all actually a Ukrainain Quadriplegic living in Portugal (Same personality as a lot of Ukranian Quadriplegics that attend my rehab center) , who made accounts on TL.net eight months ago, meticulously crafting each ego, just so she could have the final laugh at us today.
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You're really saying it's hard to edit the date on a chat log? Especially one that you provide over the internet in a screenshot or as a text file?
I didn't realize there were so many incredible minds here on TL. With that in mind... I have an incredible business opportunity, all I need are a few investors. There's this bridge that's about to be torn down, and we can buy it for 1/100th of its value, then resell the components and make a killing. All I need is a few hundred thousand dollars, which I'm sure we can pull together with all the clearminded people here. You guys that figured out this whole Peter Coffin hoax, I've just been testing you. You're just the people I've been looking for.
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On March 25 2011 10:21 Half wrote:
Holy fuck guys. I think half the people posting in this thread might actually all be Peter Coffin. Its the only explanation.
Either that, or there all actually a Ukrainain Quadriplegic living in Portugal (Same personality as a lot of Ukranian Quadriplegics that attend my rehab center) , who made accounts on TL.net eight months ago, meticulously crafting each ego, just so she could have the final laugh at us today.
I think you may be on to something...
With a little digging you may just expose what's really going on here! However, the reptillians will probably kill you before that.
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On March 25 2011 10:34 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 10:21 Half wrote:
Holy fuck guys. I think half the people posting in this thread might actually all be Peter Coffin. Its the only explanation.
Either that, or there all actually a Ukrainain Quadriplegic living in Portugal (Same personality as a lot of Ukranian Quadriplegics that attend my rehab center) , who made accounts on TL.net eight months ago, meticulously crafting each ego, just so she could have the final laugh at us today.
I think you may be on to something... With a little digging you may just expose what's really going on here! However, the reptillians will probably kill you before that.
Yeah, this kind of thing is really popular in the culture zones.
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Read the whole blog, dude got crushed. Too bad it probably won't matter in the long run. 200k subs makes you kinda immune to smaller blogs like this.
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On March 25 2011 09:59 Kukaracha wrote:http://xiaxue.blogspot.com/2011/03/peter-coffin-is-his-own-legal-team.htmlHe's going down. He'll never stop failing. I found this need to unveil the truth quite ridiculous, since the results are exactly the same in either case (Pere being a liar or an incredibly naive retard). He's also showing a strong tendency to lie and make things up if this e-mail he sent is true!
If the guy's so desperate he'll pretend being a lawyer, how is it any less likely he'd pretend having an unprovable girlfriend? This kid...
Part of me doesn't even believe that be actually quit his real job like he said he did. You can't trust anything from this guy anymore.
On March 25 2011 10:21 Half wrote:
Holy fuck guys. I think half the people posting in this thread might actually all be Peter Coffin. Its the only explanation.
Either that, or there all actually a Ukrainain Quadriplegic living in Portugal (Same personality as a lot of Ukranian Quadriplegics that attend my rehab center) , who made accounts on TL.net eight months ago, meticulously crafting each ego, just so she could have the final laugh at us today.
Also fucking LOL.
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On March 25 2011 10:34 OneBlueAugust wrote:
You're really saying it's hard to edit the date on a chat log? Especially one that you provide over the internet in a screenshot or as a text file?
Nah, I'm just saying, I'm giving it a 50/50 chance either way. I find it really suspicious that Kimi is virtually eradicated from the internet the moment someone points out that her pictures are actually a Korean model to Peter. And that, if she's real, and she wasn't just toying him along (just lying to him about what she looked like), that she hasn't shown up to verify his claims that she is real. Although, if he's responsible for the accounts, it would be easy enough for him to just recreate one of them and say "By the way, I was lying about who I really was, even to peter, sorry guys", so maby the fact that that hasn't happened is actually evidence that it wasn't peter all along...
Hard to say.
I've just had fun with the opportunity to play detective anyways
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On March 25 2011 10:41 SwiftSpear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 10:34 OneBlueAugust wrote:
You're really saying it's hard to edit the date on a chat log? Especially one that you provide over the internet in a screenshot or as a text file? Nah, I'm just saying, I'm giving it a 50/50 chance either way. I find it really suspicious that Kimi is virtually eradicated from the internet the moment someone points out that her pictures are actually a Korean model to Peter. And that, if she's real, and she wasn't just toying him along (just lying to him about what she looked like), that she hasn't shown up to verify his claims that she is real. Although, if he's responsible for the accounts, it would be easy enough for him to just recreate one of them and say "By the way, I was lying about who I really was, even to peter, sorry guys", so maby the fact that that hasn't happened is actually evidence that it wasn't peter all along... Hard to say. I've just had fun with the opportunity to play detective anyways
I'm glad you're not a real detective, because your grasp of timelines is terrible.
"Kimi" disappeared from the internet last night. The twitter account was taken down a while before, but comments were locked on the various twitter and youtube accounts, and all of her comments and whatnot were taken down in the span of about 4 hours, right after this blog hit big on reddit. I was browsing it while it was happening.
Also, it was Peter that communicated that the "Kimi" twitter feed was being taken down, and he also explained the reasoning behind it (she was "going through some stuff" and needed a break). Odd that someone figures out the chick is a fake, informs him of it via an anonymous email, and suddenly it's taken down. It obviously wasn't because he had suddenly figured out she was fake and accused her, as he continued to talk about her as if she was a real person, and continued to act like they were in a relationship up until the blog was posted.
Logically, he realized people were onto him because of the anonymous email, and tried to take it down before any damage was done. Unfortunately for him, it was too late.
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