On August 31 2013 02:29 Ghanburighan wrote: Your sarcasm was evident. I guess mine wasn't (would have really thought using the word "newb" would tip you off).
P.S. Onion>BBC/Russia Today. They need to get the issues to make fun of them. Happy 25th B-day, tear-jerkers.
Edit: You quoted the wrong post, didn't you.
Double sarcasm fail. I like the Onion for news and Yahoo answers for all my medical questions. Its the safes and cheapest route.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
There are plenty of non-US media sources who aren't ABNA or RT though, and literally none of them are carrying similar stories. That's a red flag.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
So you think that the rebels launched the chem wep's? I disagree.
Did you know that the weapons were launched from inside Syrian government controlled territory into rebel controlled territory, right? Do you know that it was first bombarded with shells, to blow out the windows, and then shelled with chem weapons to increase the damage, very well done with precision, does that sound like the rebels? How is it that the rebels were able to launch attacks from inside the government controlled areas multiple times? How then were they also able to shell the area for 4 consecutive days (once again the barrage coming from the government controlled region into the rebel region) before the UN inspectors came to do their work? Check out CBC for some facts.
You say US mainstream media is loaded, of course it is. That is common sense. However we are both Canadian, we can watch CBC, Aljazeera, and many other reputable sources for information. I'm disappointed that you have these views as a fellow Canadian.
How is Russian propaganda relevant? We saw what it was like in the Georgian conflict, just completely biased and making stuff up.
First I'll state the obvious, every country produces "propaganda" so ye.
Second, did you read through it ?
That would be one hell of a bullshit story.
During the Ossetian War the preponderance of the slime was being emitted from the mouths on our own side. RT was fighting an uphill campaign of counter-propaganda, and being thoroughly out-muscled through August and September. The BBC even pointed this out during the conflict: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7562611.stm
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
There are plenty of non-US media sources who aren't ABNA or RT though, and literally none of them are carrying similar stories. That's a red flag.
just depends if the other news agencies are on the side of the "coalition of the willing" or not. there are plenty of alternative news sites that are not owned by big money stating similar to what i have written above. Big money news is owned by the rich and powerful, heaven forbid they would be used as a tool to aid said rich and powerful.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
There are plenty of non-US media sources who aren't ABNA or RT though, and literally none of them are carrying similar stories. That's a red flag.
just depends if the other news agencies are on the side of the "coalition of the willing" or not. there are plenty of alternative news sites that are not owned by big money stating similar to what i have written above. Big money news is owned by the rich and powerful, heaven forbid they would be used as a tool to aid said rich and powerful.
Perhaps, but can't you see how that very same logic applies to both of the news sources you provided as well? Both Russia Today and ABNA have vested interests in painting the Syrian regime in the best light possible.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
There are plenty of non-US media sources who aren't ABNA or RT though, and literally none of them are carrying similar stories. That's a red flag.
just depends if the other news agencies are on the side of the "coalition of the willing" or not. there are plenty of alternative news sites that are not owned by big money stating similar to what i have written above. Big money news is owned by the rich and powerful, heaven forbid they would be used as a tool to aid said rich and powerful.
Perhaps, but can't you see how that very same logic applies to both of the news sources you provided as well? Both Russia Today and ABNA have vested interests in painting the Syrian regime in the best light possible.
And again, the timing of the report and the fact that no one else has picked it up has to be taken into account. And the arguments of "big money owning media" are not very compelling, since the term is so broad and overreaching that it is difficult to even address.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
So you think that the rebels launched the chem wep's? I disagree.
Did you know that the weapons were launched from inside Syrian government controlled territory into rebel controlled territory, right? Do you know that it was first bombarded with shells, to blow out the windows, and then shelled with chem weapons to increase the damage, very well done with precision, does that sound like the rebels? How is it that the rebels were able to launch attacks from inside the government controlled areas multiple times? How then were they also able to shell the area for 4 consecutive days (once again the barrage coming from the government controlled region into the rebel region) before the UN inspectors came to do their work? Check out CBC for some facts.
You say US mainstream media is loaded, of course it is. That is common sense. However we are both Canadian, we can watch CBC, Aljazeera, and many other reputable sources for information. I'm disappointed that you have these views as a fellow Canadian.
Honestly i cant stand CBC anymore, exact same talking points of american mainstream media. The first video i supplied though was a direct shot at the credibility of so called "reputable" sources. CNN had a guy being interviewed from a setup location complete with fake sounds, and im sure we all remember the video's of CNN on the scene in Saudi Arabia:
or the Girl from iraq talking about Hussein removing babies from incubators to die. I can not understand how anyone can give so much credibility to big money news agencies and absolutely none to small independent journalists.
there is nothing wrong with alternative views and it is healthy as a society to be able to openly discuss them, i dont advocate war or violence at all yet my country seems fully willing to support western powers in what is a clear agenda to dominate and control the middle east.
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
So you think that the rebels launched the chem wep's? I disagree.
Did you know that the weapons were launched from inside Syrian government controlled territory into rebel controlled territory, right? Do you know that it was first bombarded with shells, to blow out the windows, and then shelled with chem weapons to increase the damage, very well done with precision, does that sound like the rebels? How is it that the rebels were able to launch attacks from inside the government controlled areas multiple times? How then were they also able to shell the area for 4 consecutive days (once again the barrage coming from the government controlled region into the rebel region) before the UN inspectors came to do their work? Check out CBC for some facts.
You say US mainstream media is loaded, of course it is. That is common sense. However we are both Canadian, we can watch CBC, Aljazeera, and many other reputable sources for information. I'm disappointed that you have these views as a fellow Canadian.
aljazeera? you realize their headquarters are in qatar right?
can you source 'shelling area for 4 consecutive days'? and i mean the areas where chemical weapons were used. and also what this would achieve?
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
There are plenty of non-US media sources who aren't ABNA or RT though, and literally none of them are carrying similar stories. That's a red flag.
just depends if the other news agencies are on the side of the "coalition of the willing" or not. there are plenty of alternative news sites that are not owned by big money stating similar to what i have written above. Big money news is owned by the rich and powerful, heaven forbid they would be used as a tool to aid said rich and powerful.
Perhaps, but can't you see how that very same logic applies to both of the news sources you provided as well? Both Russia Today and ABNA have vested interests in painting the Syrian regime in the best light possible.
i agree, we cant fully trust RT or ABNA to tell the full truth just like we cant trust the western media to tell the whole truth. the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Im just providing the counter argument to what has been pretty much full on American Media talking points throughout this entire thread.
Personally to me this is a power game between the US / western powers and Russia, to a lesser extent China as Syria and Iran are very important to all of these powers for control of oil, pipelines and waterways. The only true loser are the Syrians, and eventually the Iranians. its possible Turkey is next if this power struggle continues as a lot of the pipelines that run to Europe go through Turkey and greece.
obama administration has reset any positive relations with russia. probably pretty detrimental to a united front in the un to pressure the various parts to the negotiating table in the best possible way.
the culprit: their own and previous administration's surveillance fetishism.
as he slams un's incapacity he's also laying the spank down on that butt, which his own butt is a part of, in addition to the usual suspects' butts.
edit: changed out some of the dumb wording.
double edit:
USG Assessment on Syria ...
Satellite detections corroborate that attacks from a regime-controlled area struck neighborhoods where the chemical attacks reportedly occurred – including Kafr Batna, Jawbar, ‘Ayn Tarma, Darayya, and Mu’addamiyah. This includes the detection of rocket launches from regime controlled territory early in the morning, approximately 90 minutes before the first report of a chemical attack appeared in social media.
no proof divulged in this version. just say-so's for now.
don't know if this was posted already.
Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack ...
A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.
“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
For the record, there was a video on youtube, taken down about three or two days ago by the uploader, posted in late 2012 something, that showed a masked "extremist" in make shift "lab-gear" in a room stuffed with a crapload of about 3 different kinds of Turkish labeled containers about the size of a small oil can that you'd use for your car. He babbles on about the usual "Kill the infidels", then it shows two bunnies in something like an empty glass aquarium. The guy mixes a small amount of chemicals in a glass cup sitting in the "aquarium" with the bunnies, closes the top lid, the bunnies start convulsing after about 10-20 seconds or so, they eventually just lie there, convulsing some more every now and then. Then the guy goes on some more on killing infidels before the vid stops. Was about 12 mins long or so with about 80 views when i watched it 3 days ago.
It's a shame it was taken down because I didn't exactly burn it into my mind for info since I obviously didn't think it would suddenly be taken down.
I'm not saying this confirms the RT story or whatever. But I think people can agree this is rather strange no ?
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
So you think that the rebels launched the chem wep's? I disagree.
Did you know that the weapons were launched from inside Syrian government controlled territory into rebel controlled territory, right? Do you know that it was first bombarded with shells, to blow out the windows, and then shelled with chem weapons to increase the damage, very well done with precision, does that sound like the rebels? How is it that the rebels were able to launch attacks from inside the government controlled areas multiple times? How then were they also able to shell the area for 4 consecutive days (once again the barrage coming from the government controlled region into the rebel region) before the UN inspectors came to do their work? Check out CBC for some facts.
You say US mainstream media is loaded, of course it is. That is common sense. However we are both Canadian, we can watch CBC, Aljazeera, and many other reputable sources for information. I'm disappointed that you have these views as a fellow Canadian.
aljazeera? you realize their headquarters are in qatar right?
can you source 'shelling area for 4 consecutive days'? and i mean the areas where chemical weapons were used. and also what this would achieve?
Yes that is correct, their hq is in qatar. I don't have a source for that, I saw it streaming on cbc yesterday. Logically that would achieve trying to kill witnesses who the un inspectors will talk to, I would assume they want to destroy evidence as well. I thought this was all common knowledge at this point?
On August 31 2013 02:21 Dryzt wrote: One of the spokespeople setting up the scenario for the need for intervention in Syria has been outed. Member of the Syrian rebel force Danny Abdul-Dayem has been interviewed by CNN and other mainstream media broadcasts:
RT put out a news feed stating the following: (no news article released yet) "Syria UN envoy says rebels used chemical weapons
Syria’s envoy to the UN Bashar Jaafari on Wednesday accused rebel forces of using chemical weapons to “bring about military intervention and aggression against Syria.” Many facts “tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations,” AFP quoted the ambassador as saying. The West and Turkey “have enabled terrorist groups to create a laboratory for chemical weapons on Turkish territory with materials provided by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar… and to bring these chemical weapons to Syria for use,” he said."
and really why would Assad's forces give orders to use Chemical weapons when that is supposedly the "trigger" for the US and its coalition of the willing to bomb the country to glass. Its more in line with what these former officials are talking about; a premeditated plan to remove the Assad regime to gain greater control over the area:
So you see nothing wrong with the fact that Russia Today and an outspokenly Shia news agency are the only ones telling that story?
do you really think that US mainstream media is going to tell it? They get their stories handed to them from the fed agencies. The US news is propaganda just like opposing countries news is, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
besides the more interesting video's are the 2 at the bottom where a US, and french gov official state the case that the fall of Syria is a premeditated event, the French official stating that the UK was gathering and training the insurgency that is attacking the Syrian government.
So you think that the rebels launched the chem wep's? I disagree.
Did you know that the weapons were launched from inside Syrian government controlled territory into rebel controlled territory, right? Do you know that it was first bombarded with shells, to blow out the windows, and then shelled with chem weapons to increase the damage, very well done with precision, does that sound like the rebels? How is it that the rebels were able to launch attacks from inside the government controlled areas multiple times? How then were they also able to shell the area for 4 consecutive days (once again the barrage coming from the government controlled region into the rebel region) before the UN inspectors came to do their work? Check out CBC for some facts.
You say US mainstream media is loaded, of course it is. That is common sense. However we are both Canadian, we can watch CBC, Aljazeera, and many other reputable sources for information. I'm disappointed that you have these views as a fellow Canadian.
aljazeera? you realize their headquarters are in qatar right?
can you source 'shelling area for 4 consecutive days'? and i mean the areas where chemical weapons were used. and also what this would achieve?
Yes that is correct, their hq is in qatar. I don't have a source for that, I saw it streaming on cbc yesterday. Logically that would achieve trying to kill witnesses who the un inspectors will talk to, I would assume they want to destroy evidence as well. I thought this was all common knowledge at this point?
It's not just their hq being in Qatar they're actually funded by the government of Qatar and since their government is sunni they'd like to see Assad disappear so they're probably not an impartial source at all. That doesn't mean they don't report true news though it just means you have to be careful with their reports.
Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that the rebels are now trying to procure their own chems. A couple of those groups are crazier than Assad. Shit's just starting to hit the fan over there, imo.
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