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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 08 2017 13:49 GMT
#7981
Honestly, this whole thing is probably better taken to Website Feedback.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Kadungon
Profile Joined June 2017
41 Posts
July 08 2017 15:07 GMT
#7982
On July 08 2017 22:11 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 21:50 Kadungon wrote:
On July 08 2017 21:00 bardtown wrote:
I get banned for a week for telling people I 'won't treat them like children', he gets a warning for verbally masturbating over genocide. Remember kids, genocide is fine as long as you don't call each other names.


There is a lot more wrong with you than just that.

For instance...



For one, martyring and backseat moderating. Go bash Kurds, Turks, Muslims, moderates, or TL staff. But don't whine and complain about people being mean to you.
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
July 12 2017 02:38 GMT
#7983
I was actually warned for bumping the thread with 0 content. I was trying to say YPG or SDF or PKK whatever the name pleases you will be defeated once the US is out. Sorry to hurt your liberal feelings bardtown.

This post will be doing the same mistake again so I will try to add some content.

Here is the final shape of SDF forces the US supports in Syria: https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2017/07/09/the-coalitions-partner-in-syria-the-syrian-democratic-forces/

There's an anti-isis coalition meeting in Washington and we're still clueless if the PKK attends it or not. Any credible source?



https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2017/07/11/us-says-ypg-led-sdf-wont-join-anti-daesh-meeting-in-washington-dc

Two different claims on the issue from the propaganda mouths. The supposed representative is PKK's former leader Sahin Cilo.

The so-called spokesman of the PKK's Syrian affiliate the People's Protection Units (YPG), Redur Xelil and senior PKK militant Şahin, which is on the Turkish Interior Ministry's list of most wanted terrorists, with a bounty of four million liras
.

1 million dollars worth dude, let's TRY.



LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 12 2017 23:08 GMT
#7984
Not sure how it didn't make the news here: ISIS says they confirm Baghdadi was killed back in June.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 13 2017 02:37 GMT
#7985
The presence of children at a suspected car bomb factory for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has prevented the U.S.-led coalition from striking the site, a military official said Wednesday.

Coalition spokesman U.S. Army Col. Ryan Dillon told reporters that children have been seen gathering around the site in ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa, Syria, at all hours, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

Their presence has prevented the coalition from destroying the site with an airstrike, Dillon said. The coalition has been keeping the building under surveillance and attacking vehicles after they leave.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reports that U.S.-backed Syrian forces have ISIS forces surrounded in Raqqa. However, when she and a CBS News crew were on the outskirts of the city over a week ago, those forces appeared to be overstretched and had few fighters on the front line.

Dillon said Wednesday that U.S. advisers are operating with Syrian fighters inside Raqqa and are "much more exposed to enemy contact than in Iraq."

On Monday, Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declared victory over ISIS in Mosul, the country's second-largest city.

ISIS captured Mosul three years ago. The fight to liberate it began last October, but Williams reports that Mosul won't be completely rid of ISIS fighters or their roadside bombs and booby traps for weeks or months.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 13 2017 05:20 GMT
#7986
On July 13 2017 08:08 LegalLord wrote:
Not sure how it didn't make the news here: ISIS says they confirm Baghdadi was killed back in June.


According to Reuters, only the Syrian observatory for human rights is confirming his death at this point, the US military won't confirm it yet. Major outlets will wait until they get better confirmation until they report the death of a guy whose been supposedly killed 5 or 6 times now.

It does seem likely that the Ruskis got him last month though. Here's to hoping he stays dead this time.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-13 10:17:41
July 13 2017 10:14 GMT
#7987
On July 13 2017 11:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
The presence of children at a suspected car bomb factory for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has prevented the U.S.-led coalition from striking the site, a military official said Wednesday.

Coalition spokesman U.S. Army Col. Ryan Dillon told reporters that children have been seen gathering around the site in ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa, Syria, at all hours, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

Their presence has prevented the coalition from destroying the site with an airstrike, Dillon said. The coalition has been keeping the building under surveillance and attacking vehicles after they leave.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reports that U.S.-backed Syrian forces have ISIS forces surrounded in Raqqa. However, when she and a CBS News crew were on the outskirts of the city over a week ago, those forces appeared to be overstretched and had few fighters on the front line.

Dillon said Wednesday that U.S. advisers are operating with Syrian fighters inside Raqqa and are "much more exposed to enemy contact than in Iraq."

On Monday, Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declared victory over ISIS in Mosul, the country's second-largest city.

ISIS captured Mosul three years ago. The fight to liberate it began last October, but Williams reports that Mosul won't be completely rid of ISIS fighters or their roadside bombs and booby traps for weeks or months.


Source

Why would you ever report this to the press?
"Hey ISIS, having children around saved your ass. Please get them out of the way next time, in the spirit of fair play. Tyvm."
Off-season = best season
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
July 13 2017 10:31 GMT
#7988
On July 13 2017 19:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 11:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presence of children at a suspected car bomb factory for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has prevented the U.S.-led coalition from striking the site, a military official said Wednesday.

Coalition spokesman U.S. Army Col. Ryan Dillon told reporters that children have been seen gathering around the site in ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa, Syria, at all hours, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

Their presence has prevented the coalition from destroying the site with an airstrike, Dillon said. The coalition has been keeping the building under surveillance and attacking vehicles after they leave.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reports that U.S.-backed Syrian forces have ISIS forces surrounded in Raqqa. However, when she and a CBS News crew were on the outskirts of the city over a week ago, those forces appeared to be overstretched and had few fighters on the front line.

Dillon said Wednesday that U.S. advisers are operating with Syrian fighters inside Raqqa and are "much more exposed to enemy contact than in Iraq."

On Monday, Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declared victory over ISIS in Mosul, the country's second-largest city.

ISIS captured Mosul three years ago. The fight to liberate it began last October, but Williams reports that Mosul won't be completely rid of ISIS fighters or their roadside bombs and booby traps for weeks or months.


Source

Why would you ever report this to the press?
"Hey ISIS, having children around saved your ass. Please get them out of the way next time, in the spirit of fair play. Tyvm."

As though they are not already well aware that using civilians, and especially women and children, as human shields is an effective tactic...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 13 2017 11:28 GMT
#7989
Days after Iraq’s prime minister, Haider al-Abadi, declared victory over Islamic State forces in Mosul, emaciated figures were still emerging from tunnels and basements in the shattered city on Wednesday: old men carried on the backs of their sons and women wearing dusty, tattered abayas, dragging behind them their parched and thirsty children.

In the shadow of what had once been the city’s 12th century al-Nuri mosque, blown up by Isis fighters last month in the final, desperate days of battle, a special forces officer pointed at the families who were limping out of the ruins without a male relative.

“Those are all Daesh,” he said. “The old city is where the fighters brought the loyalist families, but what can we do?”

Two injured young men, both of military age, were detained on the spot, despite the pleading of their families. “I swear he was injured by a sniper when he went to get water from the river,” said a young woman, pointing at a man who had a long, fresh scar in his abdomen.

Almost three years after the Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi declared a caliphate in the northern Iraqi city from the steps of the now ruined mosque, its “terrorist state” has at last collapsed, Abadi said on a visit on Sunday.

Even after he spoke, however, fighting continued in a handful of alleyways of Mosul’s old city, where the last, desperate remnants of the Isis resistance were trapped.

For nine months, Iraqi soldiers and special forces units were locked in battle to capture the city, but the last weeks of urban combat through the old district, with its narrow alleyways, stone houses and webs of connected basements and tunnels, proved the most difficult of all.

“In three years of fighting Isis we have seen so much and suffered many losses, but nothing we have seen can compare to the last couple of weeks here in the old city,” said Brigadier-General Flah, chief of staff of the Iraqi Special Operation Forces.

In these tangled streets, where there was no fixed front line and no safe areas, it was the civilians who bore the brunt. Here, the care that the Iraqi forces largely took elsewhere to save the lives of civilians disappeared. When advancing soldiers faced resistance, air support was called in, and the subsequent aerial bombardment shattered much of the city, along with its inhabitants.

A report by Amnesty International, published on Tuesday, accused Isis of deliberately trapping civilians to use as human shields, and the government forces and their coalition allies of using imprecise explosive weapons, potentially committing war crimes, in response. The British deputy commander of the anti-Isis coalition dismissed the report on Wednesday as “deeply irresponsible”.

Inside a church, tired soldiers rested against thick pink columns as shafts of light shining through the partially collapsed vaulted roof illuminated a floor strewn with debris, weapons and discarded meals.

Some of the soldiers collected their gear and weapons and headed out to continue searching their sector for any jihadists still hiding in basements and tunnels.

To do so, they were forced to climb over concrete boulders, chunks of stone masonry and twisted shop shutters. Air strikes have levelled entire buildings, digging deep craters and forcing up huge mounds of earth and debris, even placing the skeletons of cars on rooftops.

So complete is the destruction that in some places only a few traces remain of the building that once stood there: a door; a window frame; a flipped, broken sofa – all coloured grey by ash. The dead litter the area, and over everything hangs the putrid smell of decomposing bodies, excrement and rotting food.

Through a small opening in a wall, the soldiers climbed into a room filled with colourful bras and underwear. They stepped over the mutilated body of a fighter whose leg hung from the wheels of a motorbike, then crossed a small street lined with collapsed buildings, zigzagging between the bodies of two more dead fighters.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 13 2017 12:06 GMT
#7990
On July 13 2017 19:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 11:37 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The presence of children at a suspected car bomb factory for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has prevented the U.S.-led coalition from striking the site, a military official said Wednesday.

Coalition spokesman U.S. Army Col. Ryan Dillon told reporters that children have been seen gathering around the site in ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa, Syria, at all hours, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

Their presence has prevented the coalition from destroying the site with an airstrike, Dillon said. The coalition has been keeping the building under surveillance and attacking vehicles after they leave.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reports that U.S.-backed Syrian forces have ISIS forces surrounded in Raqqa. However, when she and a CBS News crew were on the outskirts of the city over a week ago, those forces appeared to be overstretched and had few fighters on the front line.

Dillon said Wednesday that U.S. advisers are operating with Syrian fighters inside Raqqa and are "much more exposed to enemy contact than in Iraq."

On Monday, Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declared victory over ISIS in Mosul, the country's second-largest city.

ISIS captured Mosul three years ago. The fight to liberate it began last October, but Williams reports that Mosul won't be completely rid of ISIS fighters or their roadside bombs and booby traps for weeks or months.


Source

Why would you ever report this to the press?
"Hey ISIS, having children around saved your ass. Please get them out of the way next time, in the spirit of fair play. Tyvm."

i'm sure we can just delegate that to the russians instead
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 13 2017 14:15 GMT
#7991
This really isn't much of a surprise. ISIS is just Saudi Arabia without a central government role.

http://ifpnews.com/exclusive/documents-show-saudi-uae-back-al-qaeda-isis/
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
July 24 2017 12:54 GMT
#7992
Honestly wish the West just invaded Saudi Arabia, take all the oil, and leave them without a penny, that way they wont have any more money to fund terrorists...
John 15:13
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 14:11:06
July 24 2017 14:10 GMT
#7993
can easily be argued that the West is Saudi Arabia. from Blair to Trump, all of them fuckers across all continents.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 24 2017 21:16 GMT
#7994
On July 24 2017 23:10 xM(Z wrote:
can easily be argued that the West is Saudi Arabia. from Blair to Trump, all of them fuckers across all continents.

I'd like to read that, so go for it.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 08:06:14
July 25 2017 07:58 GMT
#7995
you'd nitpick the public executions(or some other relativistic judgements/moralities), point and say: see, the west is not SA.
if you'd actually be interested, you wouldn't start like that.
so from my pov., your interest here is at best to dilute my statement from what appears be a 100% equivalence SA=the West, into a random baseless rant or something.

if you actually care there's google. you can start with Blair http://www.arabianbusiness.com/tony-blair-paid-65k-per-month-by-saudi-oil-company-headed-by-king-abdullah-s-son-571153.html or https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/tony-blair-chinese-leaders-saudi-princes-oil-firm-middle-east-envoy , skip (way)ahead to the jewish connection https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/04/02/hatred-courage-and-the-israeli-saudi-connection/ , https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/unlikely-allies-israel-and-the-saudis/ , http://forward.com/opinion/371991/two-steps-forward-one-step-back-saudi-arabia-still-hostile-to-israel/ (if you can actually read news, you can tell that article is just politics/negotiations, for plebs only) and Trump ... come on, $110billions in weapons for starters.

knowingly allowing something is guilty by association.
you, trying to score some sympathy points by pointing to SA human rights violations is of no concern to me; this is political, economical and military wise; the rest is filling for the ones living in denial.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 16:49:16
July 25 2017 16:46 GMT
#7996
On July 24 2017 21:54 AssyrianKing wrote:
Honestly wish the West just invaded Saudi Arabia, take all the oil, and leave them without a penny, that way they wont have any more money to fund terrorists...

The problem with that plan is we would be at war with the entire Middle East. Beyond super important holy site that exists in that country, that would turn into the proxy war that made up the last gasp of the cold war. The better plan is to move beyond oil and not link our fates to that region. Until then, our relationship with allies is not a zero sum game. The only way to curb SA from funding groups like ISIS is engagement. Not engaging them means they act like Iran or NK, which did not work out for the West.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-26 21:49:34
July 26 2017 21:46 GMT
#7997
I think the problem with the Saudi Arabia is not related to the oil, the vacuum effect from their remains will make Iran a superpower in the region which is bad for Israel...
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-17 05:27:52
October 17 2017 05:27 GMT
#7998
the savior of the mankind, protector of civil rights, the mighty peshmerga lost their “jerusalem” in half a day, heroic resistance.







https://twitter.com/haralddoornbos/status/919919826000281601

Central Iraq is controlled, trained, advised by the US itself, and see what they’re doing if they find some support behind.

Syria is not a puppet state, imagine what they’ll do once the US pulls out.

A brighter future awaits us gentlemen. No more sjw agendas that force us female terrorists, no more re-naming terrorist orgs to divide Middle East, so little work is left. YAY.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
October 17 2017 06:00 GMT
#7999
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14149 Posts
October 17 2017 19:53 GMT
#8000
On October 17 2017 15:00 xM(Z wrote:
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.

If there was any truth to this they would have nothing to lose by annoceing it before they sent military units against the kurds to retake the city from them.

This is just going to sour the kurds to the west and to iraq.
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