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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
October 17 2017 20:22 GMT
#8001
On October 17 2017 15:00 xM(Z wrote:
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.


LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
October 17 2017 20:39 GMT
#8002
On October 18 2017 05:22 lastpuritan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 15:00 xM(Z wrote:
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.


https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/920256857016475648

Hooray, let's trade one civil war for another!
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14015 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 00:53:27
October 18 2017 00:52 GMT
#8003
They're going to be responsible for all the civilian deaths that result from this. This is understanding its going to lead to civil war and doing it anyway beacuse you're proud.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2017 02:11 GMT
#8004
Once again the world sells out the Kurds. The most pro western region in the Middle East.

The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces are in the process of kicking ISIS out of Raqqa, the extremist group's self-declared capital where it has terrorized civilians and plotted attacks against targets linked to the U.S. and its allies. Now ISIS fighters are reportedly bottled up in a stadium complex in the Syrian city.

As of Tuesday afternoon local time, the SDF controlled "more than 90 percent" of Raqqa, according to U.S. Army Col. Ryan Dillon, spokesman for Operation Inherent Resolve.

The gains have left ISIS "on the verge of a devastating defeat," Dillon said in an update shortly before noon ET. In the past few days, he said, "about 350 fighters" have surrendered.

Celebrations began to break out among the SDF in Raqqa on Tuesday, as the end of a four-month offensive seemed near. But Dillon tells NPR's Ruth Sherlock that fighting could continue as ISIS fighters hold out in booby-trapped buildings.

Rigged explosives present a peril of their own. The commander of the Raqqa Internal Security Forces — who was to help secure the city after ISIS was defeated there — died Monday, Dillon said, "when he was walking through Raqqa and triggered an IED, and he had two of his colleagues that were with him."

The near-total takeover of Raqqa is being marked three years after the Operation Inherent Resolve task force was officially established by the Department of Defense.

The task force says it has liberated "over 6.6 million Iraqi and Syrian from Daesh control" and taken back nearly 94,000 square kilometers of land — nearly 90 percent of the territory seized by the extremist group in 2014.

As for how many fighters ISIS currently has at its disposal, the task force said its estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 who are continuing to fight in Iraq and Syria. The group also says it has degraded ISIS' ability to fund its operations, by shutting down 90 percent of its oil revenues.

The Raqqa landmarks that have been wrested from ISIS' control, Dillon notes, include the Al-Naim traffic circle, once used by the militants to carry out executions and acts of depraved violence.

The precise number of ISIS fighters who remain at large in the city isn't known. Over the weekend, word emerged that at least 100 ISIS fighters had surrendered. From Monday into Tuesday, the militants were isolated in two areas: a hospital and at the municipal stadium, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. The stadium had been used as a prison.

After fighters at the hospital reportedly surrendered, that left the stadium — and the Observatory says that when negotiations for more surrenders became drawn out, the SDF launched an assault Tuesday backed by U.S. special forces.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
October 18 2017 06:19 GMT
#8005
On October 18 2017 05:22 lastpuritan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 15:00 xM(Z wrote:
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.


https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/920256857016475648

Random news aggregator twitter account. Original source seems to be a screenshot from Al-Tagheer, a newschannel banned in Iraq. Makes a lot of sense for the VP of Iraq to give a speech on a channel banned in Iraq. Other sources already deny this. Nice fakenews dude.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 08:39:06
October 18 2017 06:27 GMT
#8006
On October 18 2017 05:22 lastpuritan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 15:00 xM(Z wrote:
i'd chill a bit if i were you. the city was probably part of a deal kurdish leaders pre-agreed upon.


https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/920256857016475648
as far as i can see, that's only a twitter meme for now; there's no news outlet reporting on it.
honestly, i'd go with this: http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/10/18/iraq-o18.html
The US-backed Iraqi government of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is expanding military operations to take back territory being held by US- and German-trained and armed “peshmerga” militia loyal to the autonomous Kurdish Regional Government (KRG). Washington, Germany and other powers are applying immense diplomatic pressure on the KRG to submit.

Since early Monday morning, Iraqi government army, police and militia units have dislodged Kurdish forces from much of Kirkuk province, including the city of Kirkuk itself, its airport, nearby towns and, most significantly, some of northern Iraq’s largest oilfields.

Kurdish General Command issued a statement declaring Baghdad’s actions a “clear declaration of war against the people of the Kurdistan Region.” Apart from isolated incidents, however, reports indicate that the peshmerga have generally withdrawn without offering resistance.

Throughout yesterday, Iraqi forces in Nineveh province moved from the provincial capital Mosul into areas they did not control. A government-backed ethnic Yazadi-based militia occupied the strategic town of Sinjar on the Iraq-Syria border.

Reports indicate that as government troops advance, peshmerga are retreating from Khanaqin, a district in Diyala province that borders Iran to the south of the three provinces that formally comprise the KRG.
something is definitely going on there.
this is not a moral(or of any other kind) victory for you; primal chest beating and ground thumping does nothing but adds more confusion so again, fuck statements and look at what happens.

Edit: there's also this bit - http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-army-says-it-has-achieved-goals-kurd-operation-1021632149
Iraqi government forces said on Wednesday that they had achieved their objectives in a lightning 48-hour operation against Kurdish forces in disputed territory outside the autonomous Kurdish region.

On Monday and Tuesday, Iraqi troops and allied militia retook the northern province of Kirkuk and its lucrative oil fields, as well as formerly Kurdish-held areas of Nineveh and Diyala provinces, in a punishing riposte to a Kurdish vote for independence last month.

"Security has been restored in sectors of Kirkuk. Forces have been redeployed and have retaken control of Khanaqin and Jalawla in Diyala province, as well as Makhmur, Bashiqa, Mosul dam, Sinjar and other areas in the Nineveh plains," the federal government's Joint Operations Command said.

The Iraqi Oil Ministry said on Monday that oil minister Jabar al-Luaibi had asked BP ''to quickly make plans to develop the Kirkuk oifields."


Edit1: other interesting bits https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2017/10/18/baghdads-offensive-forces-krg-to-withdraw-from-most-occupied-areas-1508282031
...
Nine-article secret deal between Hashd al-Shaabi and PUK

According to reports on several media outlets, a nine-article, secret deal between the Iran-backed Hashd al-Shaabi and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) has been inked.

The deal was signed between Bafil Talanani, the son of late general secretary Jalal Talabani, who died recently, and al-Shaabi representative Hadi Amiri.

The nine-article deal stipulates the following: Iraqi forces would be positioned in disputed areas and peshmerga forces would withdraw; the control of 17 town and districts, including Kirkuk, would be transferred to the Iraqi central government; a shared administration would govern Kirkuk, where 15 Kurdish neighborhoods would be governed by the Kurds, and 25 other neighborhoods would be governed by other mixed administrations. Finally, strategic posts including the K1 military base, the airport and oil refineries, would be controlled by the Iraqi central government.

In addition, the deal also says that the Sulaymaniyah airport would resume operations and the salaries of the peshmerga and civil servants will be paid by the central government, while a new administration will also be established to govern the new territories.

The PUK and the Barzani-led Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), despite having reconciled after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, have been embroiled in historic rivalry, as the PUK is known for its close ties with the Iranian region. As such, the deal, if realized, is expected to create new tensions between the KDP and the PUK.
...
"The withdrawal is continuing smoothly upon instructions from the Kurdish leadership," KRG officer Taher Saadullah al-Duski said.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 26 2017 12:50 GMT
#8007
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 22:29:40
January 15 2018 22:25 GMT
#8008
President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Jan. 15 threatened to thwart the creation of a U.S-backed 30,000-strong border security force manned mostly by the People’s Protection Units (YPG) in northern Syria.

Turkey’s armed forces completed preparations for an operation against the YPG in their strongholds Afrin, in northwestern Syria, and Manbij, in northern Syria, Erdoğan said on Jan. 15 at an opening ceremony in Ankara.

“The operation may start any time. Operations into other regions will come after,” the president said, noting that the Turkish army was already hitting YPG positions.

“America has acknowledged it is in the process of creating a terror army on our border. What we have to do is nip this terror army in the bud,” Erdoğan said.

He warned Turkey’s allies against helping what he called terrorists in Syria, saying, “We won’t be responsible for the consequences.”


"Take down your flags on their terrorist bases on your own so that we won't be forced to deliver them to you. Rip your patches from their uniforms so that we won't bury those with them."

lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-25 18:19:53
January 25 2018 02:51 GMT
#8009
Mod edit: Disturbing content + confusing tweet spam
+ Show Spoiler +

thread




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interesting weaponry ? and remarkable handling ?




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turkish commando's morale is high, two successful ops after coup attempt and purges.












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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 25 2018 03:04 GMT
#8010
You are just posting some death porn there without any actual information other than people being blown to bits...
Off-season = best season
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
January 25 2018 21:13 GMT
#8011
If you click on the first tweet flood you'll see a whole thread about ongoing Turkish - YPG conflict, would be stupid to re-post it on here when you're one click ahead to read bunch of stuff that is relevant.

None of the content I posted here -except the last tweet- has death porn but yeah, should have put it in spoilers..

TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-04 01:58:18
February 04 2018 01:56 GMT
#8012
A Russian SU-25 was shot down over Idlib province recently. The pilot ejected but was then killed by rebels on the ground. There are potentially serious implications, with the incident occurring in the so-called de-escalation zone, and Russian foreign ministry hypothesizing that the equipment used to shoot it down may have been US made. There are also reports of a retaliatory cruise missile strike from Russian naval forces in the area.

www.bbc.com
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11894 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-04 09:43:13
February 04 2018 09:41 GMT
#8013
On February 04 2018 10:56 TheFish7 wrote:
A Russian SU-25 was shot down over Idlib province recently. The pilot ejected but was then killed by rebels on the ground. There are potentially serious implications, with the incident occurring in the so-called de-escalation zone, and Russian foreign ministry hypothesizing that the equipment used to shoot it down may have been US made. There are also reports of a retaliatory cruise missile strike from Russian naval forces in the area.

www.bbc.com


So similar to the Russian one in Ukraine, though that was an airliner plane. So this was harder to shoot down I assume. Don't really see it as major news unless Russia decides to use it as a casus belli. In that case I get the paranoid theory of it being them shooting down their own plane.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18072 Posts
February 04 2018 10:20 GMT
#8014
On February 04 2018 18:41 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2018 10:56 TheFish7 wrote:
A Russian SU-25 was shot down over Idlib province recently. The pilot ejected but was then killed by rebels on the ground. There are potentially serious implications, with the incident occurring in the so-called de-escalation zone, and Russian foreign ministry hypothesizing that the equipment used to shoot it down may have been US made. There are also reports of a retaliatory cruise missile strike from Russian naval forces in the area.

www.bbc.com


So similar to the Russian one in Ukraine, though that was an airliner plane. So this was harder to shoot down I assume. Don't really see it as major news unless Russia decides to use it as a casus belli. In that case I get the paranoid theory of it being them shooting down their own plane.

How is it similar? In one case it was a commercial passenger plane. And in the other a military plane in an active warzone. If the Russians (ahem, Ukrainian rebels) had shot down a military plane there wouldn't have been much fuss. In fact, they had already done that and there was no fuss: it's just shit that happens in wars. You don't want people aiming their AA missiles at you, don't fly fighter jets in warzones.

The main issue here seems to be that it happened in the de-escalation zone. That is bad.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 04:20:45
February 08 2018 04:19 GMT
#8015
Sigh...



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14015 Posts
February 08 2018 05:10 GMT
#8016
It is written in revelations that the four fallen angels that will kill a third of the earth are Bound in the Euphrates.

User was warned for this post
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 08 2018 10:10 GMT
#8017
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
February 08 2018 22:25 GMT
#8018
self defence in a foreign country

sure m8
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 22:33:01
February 08 2018 22:30 GMT
#8019
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing... Building military bases in foreign countries against the express will of that country's government and you're claiming "self defense" (that's what the Pentagon said, 10000 km away from the area) against an "unprovoked attack"? The US killed and wounded dozens of Syrians with their airstrikes while they suffered zero casualties as a result of the "unprovoked attack"... who's the baddies here, exactly? This is ludicrous.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 08 2018 23:18 GMT
#8020
This is hardly the first report I've heard within the past year of random convenient piss-fight strikes. Just a reality of the neverending quagmire that is the Syrian Civil War and sour grapes about the fact that militarily the conflict has mostly been decided.
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