EPTTobacco Smoking Thread - Page 20
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
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FaRess
Tunisia937 Posts
On November 30 2011 22:03 Neurosis wrote: You only live once, why not do the things you enjoy. You realise that you are in the Tobacco Smoking Thread ? | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:14 FaRess wrote: You realise that you are in the Tobacco Smoking Thread ? ..And? If you enjoy smoking, i guess it doesn't matter? | ||
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On November 30 2011 09:41 BoxedLunch wrote: so... I started smoking when I got out of high school, and smoked for about 2 years. Then I quit cold turkey for a girl I was dating last year. Yesterday, job stress and anxiety got the better of me, and I caved and bought a pack of smokes. advice TL? Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening. | ||
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
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Unifex
United States68 Posts
And now that we get so much hate it's even easier to bound with fellow smokers outside. | ||
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Kaozpanna
Sweden47 Posts
Thinking of switching to "snus" though. | ||
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Arekk
Romania11 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:19 ElizarTringov wrote: Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening. Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it. | ||
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:59 Arekk wrote: Those books are funny actually. And guys not smoking talking about brain washing and how to quit somking lol. Smoking does relieve stress, "tickles" the brain in a good way, makes you more calm. Also nicotine IS a drug. And as any drug, when you use it you develop dependency. I managed to quit because I wanted to do it and just decided that "if others can, am I weaker? wtf". It wasn't easy, and the first 2 weeks are a pain (with peaks around 3-5th days). No, not because of the brain washing tobacco companies did on me. You just PHYSICALLY feel a lot of stuff. You find yourself getting nervous about almost anything. You can't sit down for 1 seconds. You go through a lot of anxiety periods. But with strong will you can do it. Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives. | ||
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Brosy
United States254 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:50 Kaozpanna wrote: Started smoking a couple of months ago. I see it mostly as a social thing or just too relax. I usually smoke marlboro or prince. Thinking of switching to "snus" though. Snus is great. Allows you to be much more discreet in your tobacco use. The buzz off the first couple is amazing. | ||
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Bigpet
Germany533 Posts
On December 01 2011 02:11 ElizarTringov wrote: Smoking does not relieve stress, it causes stress. How does smoke going into your lungs relieve stress? It does not. You are suffocating yourself when you smoke, is suffocation not stressful? Isn't it stressful that your muscles and organs can't get the air that they need? I don't know about you but I wouldn't feel too calm if I am suffocating. Smoking is a drug addiction, not a genuine crutch. It does not help anyone but in fact destroys lives. You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same | ||
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n Y n
United States24 Posts
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sertman
United States540 Posts
 ) before I started smoking cigarettes, mainly because I felt like the hand to mouth fixation i already had with marijuana had gotten out of hand and i was just really high all the time. So when I picked up smoking cigarettes, yes I knew it was dumb but at the time I was just looking for something else to smoke that isn't as expensive or mind altering as marijuana. Another thing that was going through my mind when I picked up smoking is that I have a difficult time socializing with people at work/school and I was desperate to change that when I moved to where I'm living now. Taking a smoke break with a classmate/coworker gives ample time to get to know them in a situation where I don't feel like I'm bothering them. I know it's sick to basically kill myself to feel comfortable in social situations but that's just what was going through my head at the time.Don't judge smokers too hard, we all know it's dumb and we spend a lot of time thinking about why we're out there having a cigarette and questioning our inner thought process about it. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
i see the appeal. | ||
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FluXxxx
Germany57 Posts
you are waiting for someone,he is not on time,you decide to have another cigarette while waiting->bam,he shows up! don't know why but it has happened to me so often,it actually is ridiculous. works for public transport too,but only if you don't think about it. another thing if i have a hard time finding a solution for a problem,don't know how to continue with whatever,i like having a cigarette to calm down and normally the solution pops up during that time. and i like the taste of danske! | ||
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ZiegFeld
351 Posts
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On December 01 2011 02:26 Bigpet wrote: You are aware that nicotine is pychoactive though, right? With psychoactive substances all kinds of shit can happen. What you should be feeling and what your brain makes you feel are not always the same I am not saying your brain is telling you to stop smoking, I am telling you your body is telling you to stop smoking. The thing is people have been fooled into thinking that they are actually missing something if they don't smoke. Others think that the brainwashing that tobacco companies use isn't working. If the brainwashing didn't work then people wouldn't smoke. If someone remembers their first cigarette, is it enjoyable? Most people probably coughed and had to "train" themselves to believe they enjoyed it. People need to remember nicotine is filling the hole which it itself has created. People actually believe that non-smokers are having a harder time dealing with stress and that they have an easier time because they smoke. | ||
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Hipsv
135 Posts
On November 30 2011 23:19 ElizarTringov wrote: Yes, check out this book called "The Easyway to Stop Smoking" By Allen Carr. It basically dispels the illusion that smokers enjoy smoking, that smoking relives stress, and a host of other illusions that people have been brainwashed into by the tobacco companies. I checked it out at the library and I don't even smoke but I read most of it but 2 chapters and it is highly enlightening. I personally don't care who Allen Carr is or what he does, smoking relieves stress. Maybe not in a direct head clearing way marijuana does, but when you smoke you can usually see and start chatting with other smokers which distracts you from your stress and thus relieving you of it. Also if you are smoking after an extended break or starting you feel a very strong headrush which relieves stress headaches. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On December 01 2011 12:26 ElizarTringov wrote: I am not saying your brain is telling you to stop smoking, I am telling you your body is telling you to stop smoking. The thing is people have been fooled into thinking that they are actually missing something if they don't smoke. Others think that the brainwashing that tobacco companies use isn't working. If the brainwashing didn't work then people wouldn't smoke. If someone remembers their first cigarette, is it enjoyable? Most people probably coughed and had to "train" themselves to believe they enjoyed it. People need to remember nicotine is filling the hole which it itself has created. People actually believe that non-smokers are having a harder time dealing with stress and that they have an easier time because they smoke. I'd like to point out a few things. 1. You came to the tobacco smoking thread to rail against tobacco. This makes very little sense. 2. You keep bumping a thread which discusses the joys of smoking, of which you disapprove. This all but guarantees more views, and again, makes almost no sense. 3. You're here to impart your unwanted wisdom upon us. You gained this wisdom after never having smoked tobacco, and after reading "most" of one book by one guy. This isn't much information on which to base an opinion, and it certainly isn't enough cause to come to a thread of smokers to tell us we've been brainwashed. 4. The TL quit smoking team is over there. Perhaps they would be more interested in what you have to say. | ||
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
That's why I dont like the idea of this thread, and I dont like that TL.net allows it. Bur obv. they cant just close it, because then they would have to close both the alcohold threads and the high thread, which would be pretty bad. But let me ask everybody here. Who here is actually glad that they started smoking? | ||
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