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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Curtismcfly
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
April 12 2011 05:57 GMT
#3801
On April 12 2011 08:32 Ambulation wrote:
Not sure if this has already been posted yet or not:


this literally made me cry...
¯\__(O.o)__/¯ curtis-mcfly.tumblr.com
vega12
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan73 Posts
April 12 2011 06:23 GMT
#3802
Like any major earthquake, they said that overtime the aftershocks spread out but also weaken in intensity as they spread. And since the fault line runs along the whole east coast, it's not surprising that they have gone so far as off-shore of Chiba. Shocks around the ruptured fault will keep being about this strong for a while; they will just come less and less often.
Hydrogen is a light odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 12 2011 06:31 GMT
#3803
So guys. This is level 7, right? You know, the level of Chernobyl?

...

THE Chernobyl, with decades of radiation falloff that are still affecting the cancer rates and other deformities of nations hundreds of miles away even today?


...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 12 2011 06:36 GMT
#3804
On April 12 2011 15:31 orgolove wrote:
So guys. This is level 7, right? You know, the level of Chernobyl?

...

THE Chernobyl, with decades of radiation falloff that are still affecting the cancer rates and other deformities of nations hundreds of miles away even today?


...


... there is only 7 levels. if you want to compare on a bigger scale then chernobyl was a 700.

serious issue but we don't need that sort of fearmongering in a time like this.
The Show of a Lifetime
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
April 12 2011 06:43 GMT
#3805
A few days ago there was a post on here with information about how to get in contact with the group conducting the clean up missions. I was interesting in doing it however I can't seem to find the thread with the search option, if someone knows the one I'm talking of or another site that can get me in contact send me a private message please.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
April 12 2011 06:50 GMT
#3806
I don't want to link live leak here because of the NSFW stuff, but there are a ton of crazy video's recently added on there regarding this.

If you search "inside the evacuation zone" there is a video where two guys drive within 1.5km of the nuclear power plant and see radiation at a max of 112 microserverts or whatever.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Airionn
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
April 12 2011 06:57 GMT
#3807
I belive its 10% of Chernobyl..
Stay strong Japan!!
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 08:10:22
April 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#3808
On April 12 2011 15:31 orgolove wrote:
So guys. This is level 7, right? You know, the level of Chernobyl?

...

THE Chernobyl, with decades of radiation falloff that are still affecting the cancer rates and other deformities of nations hundreds of miles away even today?


...


Not THE Chernobyl. The reactor didn't EXPLODE and send radioactive fallout everywhere like it did in Chernobyl. If Japan has to construct a sarcophagus around the reactors, then the radioactive material should stop coming out. They couldn't really do that in Chernobyl since there was already of ton of the material scattered across a pretty big area.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
April 12 2011 09:28 GMT
#3809
Since the news died out I though the situation in Japan would have stabilized. Guess I was wrong...

I'm interested what the Russians plan to do, if the Government of Japan has requested their aid at Level 7 than they should have something in mind.
@
vega12
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 09:49:04
April 12 2011 09:43 GMT
#3810
I saw on the news that they are bringing in a ship that is basically a giant processing facility used when they decommission nuclear power plants to deal with the radioactive water. They recently ejected a bunch of radioactive water to sea, but that was the not-so-contaminated water to make room for more of the you-will-die-from-from-this highly contaminated water.

EDIT: Found a source: http://www.planetdata.net/sites/global/news.php?story=36090. Correction: used to decommission nuclear submarines.
Hydrogen is a light odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 12 2011 14:56 GMT
#3811
it's also important to note that the level 7 upgrade was in retrospect... it's much better controlled now, but still not completely controlled.

some people are thinking that the problem is worse now because of the upgrade, but that's not correct.
Rflcrx
Profile Joined October 2010
503 Posts
April 12 2011 15:24 GMT
#3812
Problem was huge all along, tepco just managed to play it down till now.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
April 12 2011 16:32 GMT
#3813
On April 13 2011 00:24 Rflcrx wrote:
Problem was huge all along, tepco just managed to play it down till now.


Do you have any proof regarding this or are you just voicing your opinion.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
April 12 2011 17:47 GMT
#3814
On April 13 2011 01:32 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 00:24 Rflcrx wrote:
Problem was huge all along, tepco just managed to play it down till now.


Do you have any proof regarding this or are you just voicing your opinion.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but a couple of weeks ago people were talking about how to classify this crisis and it was said it was too early to rate it higher and foreign "experts" were doing it wrong. Now after so much time has gone they can raise it to this "7" grade but it doesn't mean that things just suddenly got way worse. It just a number which was also given to the Chernobyl disaster but that doesn't mean things have been getting out of hand like it did back then.

I don't see the reason to focus so much on this instead of the whole picture of what's going on at Fukushima Daiichi. To me this is fearmongering fed to by the media and it's understandable why TEPCO/the Japanese government is holding things like this back when media is assuming the worst and making everyone panic even more.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 12 2011 18:27 GMT
#3815
On April 13 2011 01:32 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 00:24 Rflcrx wrote:
Problem was huge all along, tepco just managed to play it down till now.


Do you have any proof regarding this or are you just voicing your opinion.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/03/us-nuke-chief-no-water-left-in-spent-fuel-pool-at-no-4-reactor/1

+ Show Spoiler +
There's no more water in the pool holding spent fuel rods at the No. 4 reactor of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant, says the head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, according to the Associated Press.

If all water is gone from the cooling pool, the exposed fuel rods will overheat and could possibly melt or even explode, spreading highly radioactive material.

NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko did not say how he obtained that information.

The Japanese nuclear safety agency and the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., have denied the claim. A utility spokesman said the "condition is stable" at Unit 4.
The Show of a Lifetime
sandrab
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria9 Posts
April 12 2011 18:34 GMT
#3816
I am agree with this.
all the best
Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 22:01:37
April 12 2011 22:01 GMT
#3817
On April 12 2011 15:36 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 15:31 orgolove wrote:
So guys. This is level 7, right? You know, the level of Chernobyl?

...

THE Chernobyl, with decades of radiation falloff that are still affecting the cancer rates and other deformities of nations hundreds of miles away even today?


...


... there is only 7 levels. if you want to compare on a bigger scale then chernobyl was a 700.

serious issue but we don't need that sort of fearmongering in a time like this.


Except there are 4 reactors leaking with no end in site. It was obvious this was a level 7 event since Saturday. Go ahead believe the news. The news isn't going to panic everyone.
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
April 12 2011 22:07 GMT
#3818
Sadly, unless you are there, crunching the numbers, and experiencing the effects, you have no idea what's really going on. The media loves to spin things their own way, and there's really nothing that's given as is anymore. I don't believe anything they say. If you want a good source of what's going on, try this:

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956176/information-radiation-leak-slowly-from-japan
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 12 2011 22:09 GMT
#3819
On April 13 2011 07:01 Macabre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 15:36 Terranist wrote:
On April 12 2011 15:31 orgolove wrote:
So guys. This is level 7, right? You know, the level of Chernobyl?

...

THE Chernobyl, with decades of radiation falloff that are still affecting the cancer rates and other deformities of nations hundreds of miles away even today?


...


... there is only 7 levels. if you want to compare on a bigger scale then chernobyl was a 700.

serious issue but we don't need that sort of fearmongering in a time like this.


Except there are 4 reactors leaking with no end in site. It was obvious this was a level 7 event since Saturday. Go ahead believe the news. The news isn't going to panic everyone.


fukushima isn't even remotely in the ballpark of the chernobyl disaster. nothing more to discuss on the subject of comparison.
The Show of a Lifetime
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 22:13:13
April 12 2011 22:11 GMT
#3820
On April 13 2011 03:27 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 01:32 Joementum wrote:
On April 13 2011 00:24 Rflcrx wrote:
Problem was huge all along, tepco just managed to play it down till now.


Do you have any proof regarding this or are you just voicing your opinion.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/03/us-nuke-chief-no-water-left-in-spent-fuel-pool-at-no-4-reactor/1

+ Show Spoiler +
There's no more water in the pool holding spent fuel rods at the No. 4 reactor of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant, says the head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, according to the Associated Press.

If all water is gone from the cooling pool, the exposed fuel rods will overheat and could possibly melt or even explode, spreading highly radioactive material.

NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko did not say how he obtained that information.

The Japanese nuclear safety agency and the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., have denied the claim. A utility spokesman said the "condition is stable" at Unit 4.


NRC Chairman Gregory Jaczko did not say how he obtained that information.


This was WEEKS AGO and it was already proven that he was WRONG via aerial photos on the site. This site/article is hasn't been updated since Marsh 16.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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