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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 00:35:25
March 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#3441
mod edit: stupid picture removed

Theres one more aftermath yet to come

User was temp banned for this post.
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 17 2011 20:17 GMT
#3442
Ah the SA forum link was really good. Looks like there was a lot of sensationalism and the problem isn't actually as bad as Chernobyl.
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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 17 2011 20:56 GMT
#3443
Can a mod please remove that stupid picture too? It really doesn't belong into this thread.

Daily IAEA situation update as of 17 March, 17:55 UTC:
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Japanese Earthquake Update (17 March 17:55 UTC)

Japanese authorities have informed the IAEA that engineers were able to lay an external grid power line cable to unit 2. The operation was completed at 08:30 UTC.

They plan to reconnect power to unit 2 once the spraying of water on the unit 3 reactor building is completed.

The spraying of water on the unit 3 reactor building was temporarily stopped at 11:09 UTC (20:09 local time) of 17 March.

The IAEA continues to liaise with the Japanese authorities and is monitoring the situation as it evolves.


IAEA Briefing on the Fukushima Nuclear Emergency (17 March 2011, 14.00 UTC)

At the IAEA headquarters in Vienna, Graham Andrew, Special Adviser to the IAEA Director General on Scientific and Technical Affairs, briefed both Member States and the media on the current status of nuclear safety in Japan.

Current Situation

The situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plants remains very serious, but there has been no significant worsening since yesterday.

The current situation at Units 1, 2 and 3, whose cores have suffered damage, appears to be relatively stable. Sea water is being injected into all three units using fire extinguishing hoses. Containment pressures are fluctuating.

Military helicopters carried out four water drops over Unit 3.

Unit 4 remains a major safety concern. No information is available on the level of water in the spent fuel pool. No water temperature indication from the Unit 4 spent fuel pool has been received since March 14, when the temperature was 84 degrees C. No roof is in place.

The water levels in the reactor pressure vessels of Units 5 and 6 have been declining.

Radiation Monitoring

We are now receiving dose rate information from 47 Japanese cities regularly. This is a positive development. In Tokyo, there has been no significant change in radiation levels since yesterday. They remain well below levels which are dangerous to human health.

As far as on-site radiation levels at the Fukushima Daiichi and Daini nuclear power plants are concerned, we have received no new information since the last report.

In some locations at around 30km from the Fukushima plant, the dose rates rose significantly in the last 24 hours (in one location from 80 to 170 microsievert per hour and in another from 26 to 95 microsievert per hour). But this was not the case at all locations at this distance from the plants.

Dose rates to the north-west of the nuclear power plants, were observed in the range 3 to 170 microsievert per hour, with the higher levels observed around 30 km from the plant.

Dose rates in other directions are in the 1 to 5 microsievert per hour range.

Agency Activities

The Director General, who is now on his way to Japan, had another conversation with United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon. The UN Secretary-General pledged all possible support for the Agency's efforts.

The Director General also met the Executive Secretary of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization, Tibor Toth, to discuss the possibility of the Agency gaining access to data collected by CTBTO radionuclide monitoring stations.

A written request has been made to CTBTO. We believe the additional data and information could assist the Agency in our assessment of the evolving situation in Japan.

A specialist from the World Meteorological Organization joined our team in the Incident and Emergency Centre earlier this week, providing expert advice on the possible trajectories of winds from the area of the power plants.


Japan Earthquake Update (17 March 2011 11:05 UTC)

Based on a press release from the Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary dated 17 March 2011 04:00 UTC, the IAEA can confirm that the Japanese military carried out four helicopter water droppings over the building of reactor unit 3 of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

According to the press release, the droppings took place between 00:48 UTC and 01:00 UTC.


Japanese Earthquake Update (17 March 01:15 UTC)

Injuries or Contamination at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant


Based on a press release from the Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary dated 16 March 2011, the IAEA can confirm the following information about human injuries or contamination at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Please note that this list provides a snapshot of the latest information made available to the IAEA by Japanese authorities. Given the fluid situation at the plant, this information is subject to change.

Injuries

* 2 TEPCO employees have minor injuries
* 2 subcontractor employees are injured, one person suffered broken legs and one person whose condition is unknown was transported to the hospital
* 2 people are missing
* 2 people were 'suddenly taken ill'
* 2 TEPCO employees were transported to hospital during the time of donning respiratory protection in the control centre
* 4 people (2 TEPCO employees, 2 subcontractor employees) sustained minor injuries due to the explosion at unit 1 on 11 March and were transported to the hospital
* 11 people (4 TEPCO employees, 3 subcontractor employees and 4 Japanese civil defense workers) were injured due to the explosion at unit 3 on 14 March

Radiological Contamination

* 17 people (9 TEPCO employees, 8 subcontractor employees) suffered from deposition of radioactive material to their faces, but were not taken to the hospital because of low levels of exposure
* One worker suffered from significant exposure during 'vent work,' and was transported to an offsite center
* 2 policemen who were exposed to radiation were decontaminated
* Firemen who were exposed to radiation are under investigation

The IAEA continues to seek information from Japanese authorities about all aspects of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Source: http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html

There might be another update today, after 22:00 UTC, if they are following the same pattern as in the last days. As usual, some formatting errors might be present in the copied post, check the original if that is important to you.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 21:03:47
March 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#3444
Reactor #2 has power line connected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779512
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 17 2011 21:06 GMT
#3445
That's great!!
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#3446
Yeah best news this week I'd say. There's still a chance the reactors are too damaged but now there's hope they can get it all to work again. Constantly throwing water to cool the reactors down doesn't work in the long run, lol.
LooseMoose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States184 Posts
March 17 2011 21:28 GMT
#3447
On March 16 2011 00:18 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
Apparently radiation is skyrocketing =[

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake

User was temp banned for this post.



Heh, I like how you were banned for this.

I hope the people that decided to stay behind are compensated for their efforts/sacrifices. Takes a huge amount of courage when they know the risks and health consequences.
Nienordir
Profile Joined October 2010
98 Posts
March 17 2011 21:34 GMT
#3448
On March 18 2011 05:58 chaoser wrote:
Reactor #2 has power line connected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779512

While that sounds great, it's only for Unit 2 and they said that the pumps have been damaged by the sea water and have to be repaired. They don't know if the electrical equipment will still work either. So it's only a very small step to improve the situation in Unit 2.

But the real threat right now are Unit 3&4 especially their spent fuel pools, because those buildings have been badly damaged and they don't seem to plan connecting power there anytime soon, which means those reactors/pools remain uncooled aside from the occasional water spraying. And they've only dropped around 60t of water when they actually need more like 600t inside one pool to stabilize the situation there (this doesn't include water that missed the target or water that was 'lost' to other parts of the building).

Imho they need to do that stuff 24/7 without breaks to actually make a difference. The 1-2h operation yesterday was more a PR action, to calm down the public, since the break gives the water time to vaporize again, so the water level won't rise in a significant way if they only drop a teaspoon of water once in a while.

They're playing on time with their hesitation to do the necessary, it's pure luck if they get away with it, because they don't know how much water is actually left in each pool and if the radiation spikes up when the rods are exposed/melting they won't be able to do anything without suicide missions. I hope they have that much luck and can afford to waste even more time..
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 17 2011 22:16 GMT
#3449
The first readings from American data-collection flights over the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan show that the worst of the contamination has not spewed beyond the 18-mile range of highest concern established by Japanese authorities

The data was collected in the first use of the Aerial Measurement System, among the most sophisticated devices rushed to Japan by the Obama administration



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/w...el.html?_r=1&hp

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Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 17 2011 22:23 GMT
#3450
NHK English TV back on air live at Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

Vapor appears to be rising out of reactor No.3 at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.

http://twitter.com/TepcoDisaster

---

Read This Remarkable Blog by One of the Fukushima Workers Struggling to Contain the Nuclear Reactors

The Blog Appeared on the Japanese Social Network Mixi but was Quickly Removed - (at the Request of Tepco?)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7867050/read_this_remarkable_blog_by_one_of.html?cat=15
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
March 17 2011 22:31 GMT
#3451
Does anyone have an idea when the crisis in Japan may end? Rough prediction. 1 more week or what? :s
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 17 2011 22:35 GMT
#3452
On March 18 2011 07:31 slimshady wrote:
Does anyone have an idea when the crisis in Japan may end? Rough prediction. 1 more week or what? :s

Ehh.. depends on what you mean with crisis. No one knows if there will be more earthquakes or how weather will affect the rescue work at east coast. The nuclear situation is also very uncertain. It's really impossible to estimate when this all will be over. It can go on for a long time.
koveras
Profile Joined January 2011
163 Posts
March 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#3453
I really hate this crisis, I hope japan will be up to the challenge. Just the thought that a large area around Fukushima can become a "no go" area for years and years makes me sad. Now is your finest hour japan, go for it!
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Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
March 18 2011 00:21 GMT
#3454
I hope the japanese will not just sit down like the russians and develop new technologies for large area decontamination and also put a lot of power into better anti cancer medicine.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 18 2011 00:32 GMT
#3455
On March 18 2011 09:11 koveras wrote:
I really hate this crisis, I hope japan will be up to the challenge. Just the thought that a large area around Fukushima can become a "no go" area for years and years makes me sad. Now is your finest hour japan, go for it!


Due to the plant now being in "control", I doubt a large area around it will be a no go zone. The plant itself and its immediate surrounding area will probably be closed off for a few decades though.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
suparman
Profile Joined March 2011
10 Posts
March 18 2011 00:34 GMT
#3456
On March 18 2011 09:32 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 09:11 koveras wrote:
I really hate this crisis, I hope japan will be up to the challenge. Just the thought that a large area around Fukushima can become a "no go" area for years and years makes me sad. Now is your finest hour japan, go for it!


Due to the plant now being in "control", I doubt a large area around it will be a no go zone. The plant itself and its immediate surrounding area will probably be closed off for a few decades though.


If i go there, will I get a giant mutant dick?

Or even better, become cyclops?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 18 2011 00:34 GMT
#3457
On March 18 2011 09:21 Desti wrote:
I hope the japanese will not just sit down like the russians and develop new technologies for large area decontamination and also put a lot of power into better anti cancer medicine.


I don't think cancer rates will be the biggest problem after this crisis is settled, probably rebuilding will be the biggest worry. Since the plant is near the ocean the water table will probably not be contaminated aside from the particles that escaped into the air.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 00:49:17
March 18 2011 00:47 GMT
#3458
The crisis in japan is causing major economic problems here in the US.

Today we laid off 1 person and cut 5 people to half time from full time (company only has 10 employees total) since we are an electronic component distributor and no one is buying electronic parts because of the disaster in japan. Companies similar to ours are in a similar situation throughout the country (we thought it might just be us, but we talked to some other business owners and they are all being affected)
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
nigrokunt
Profile Joined March 2011
Costa Rica3 Posts
March 18 2011 00:49 GMT
#3459
On March 18 2011 09:34 suparman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 09:32 chaoser wrote:
On March 18 2011 09:11 koveras wrote:
I really hate this crisis, I hope japan will be up to the challenge. Just the thought that a large area around Fukushima can become a "no go" area for years and years makes me sad. Now is your finest hour japan, go for it!


Due to the plant now being in "control", I doubt a large area around it will be a no go zone. The plant itself and its immediate surrounding area will probably be closed off for a few decades though.


If i go there, will I get a giant mutant dick?

Or even better, become cyclops?


I want diant cunt so I can suck my own cunt and fuck my own cunt with my own mutant dick FTW.

You Jelly?
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 00:53:06
March 18 2011 00:51 GMT
#3460
On March 18 2011 09:21 Desti wrote:
I hope the japanese will not just sit down like the russians and develop new technologies for large area decontamination and also put a lot of power into better anti cancer medicine.

Sit?! A lot of people died from radiation while cooling down the reactor in Chernobyl. And developing decontamination and cancer medicine is a pipe dream.
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